[GreenKeys] [External] off topic - vacuum tube lamp

Bruce Gentry ka2ivy at verizon.net
Tue Apr 5 21:55:30 EDT 2022


Your mention of a cyclotron brought up the memory of another particle 
accelerator, the Bevatron. There was a good description and journal of 
it's dismantling on the web. I wonder if it used any huge  tubes. 
Because of when it was built, huge air cooled external anode were more 
common for high power and probably not very spectacular. The largest 
glass tube I ever saw up close was in a General Electric height finder 
radar. It was a thyratron modulator, probably about 18 inches tall and 
10 or 12 inches in diameter. It had some nice blue glows when operating, 
but nothing that would light a room.

   Bruce Gentry, KA2IVY
On 4/5/22 16:02, Jones, Douglas W wrote:
> From: Nick [creativegardening at hotmail.com] -- Tuesday, April 5, 2022 1:21 PM
>
>> I acquired this tub a few years ago online from a Russian seller. It is a GM-100 triode tube, the biggest one ever built.
> The overall dimensions look similar to the Eimac 750TL, which also measures 18 inches tall but has a spherical body and a grid cap sticking diagonally out the side.  I had one, see this photo:
> -- https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Eimac_vacuum_tubes#/media/File:JAN-750TL-tube.jpg
>
> I ended up donating it to the U of Iowa Physics Department, which has a small museum of such stuff.
>
> One noteworthy feature is that, in use, the plate would typically be red hot, heated in part by the filament, but moreso by the electrons slamming into it.  The Eimac 750 was rated at 750 watts DC power, 1KW RF.  Applications in the data sheet included running DC servomotors and running stadium PA systems.
>
> I have seen a power triode that was close to a yard (meter) long, so your tube and the one I had are hardly the largest ever made.  My father used to have one in his office with a plate cap that was perhaps 18 inches long and 4 inches in diameter.  The plate cap was the plate electrode, with the filament and grid cantelevered from the base to hang inside the plate.  The cap was designed to be water cooled, so you'd clamp the cooling coils to the plate to make both electrical and thermal contact with the plate.  The body was a thick glass globe with a short stubby grid cap poking out the side and pins on the base for the filament power.  That tube is now in the departmental collection of the U of Michigan physics department.  It used to power a cyclotron back in the 1950s.
>
> Here's a modern datasheet for a 20 KW tube.
> -- https://s1.manualzz.com/store/data/014170404_1-19303e27fee3cc4f35e343c26e397d5d.png
> I love the fact that the filament power on this tube is 750 watts.  Like other water cooled tubes, of course, it would make a lousy lamp, since the filament is inside the solid metal plate assembly, and in this and other modern examples, the insulating parts are all opaque ceramic.
>
>            Doug Jones
>            jones at cs.uiowa.edu
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