[GreenKeys] [External] Re: ASR32 or ASR33 ?

[Michael Katzmann]

Very interesting. The talk of EBCDIC brings me back to the IBM360/20 I
programmed in the 70s (even then it was in a museum 8-).
I wonder if they have thought of making the system actually work. The Sigma
7 can be emulated with a Raspberry Pi and SIMH (
https://github.com/simh/simh/tree/master/sigma). They would have to get the
interface message processor fired up and find the Sigma 7 software!

Michael

On Sat, Oct 30, 2021 at 11:27 PM Jones, Douglas W <douglas-w-jones at uiowa.edu>
wrote:

> From:  Steve Garrison [steve.n4tty at gmail.com] -- Friday, October 29, 2021
> 6:29 PM
> > Looks like a 32 to me!  Probably the guy writing the story just found a
> picture of any old teletype.
>
> > From:  Michael Katzmann --  Friday, October 29, 2021 7:11 PM
> >>  ooops .. this article
> https://www.pbs.org/newshour/science/internet-got-started-simple-hello
>
> The machine would have been a Model 33, not a Model 32.  I say this as
> someone who spent many hours programming an SDS Sigma 7 computer back in
> the day.  The Sigma 7 was a 32 bit machine, very much in the spirit of (but
> not compatible with) the IBM System 360 Model 67 -- it used EBCDIC as its
> internal code, but had excellent support for ASCII remote terminals and at
> Com Share Inc in Ann Arbor, we had a fleet of Teletype Model 33s, KSR and
> ASR, plus a small number of very new Tektronix graphics terminals (the kind
> with the storage scope).
>
> A Sigma 7 in California was indeed the first ARPAnet host, and ARPAnet is
> where the Internet protocol suite origniated.
>
> And, in response to the snide remark about Al Gore, he never said he
> invented the Internet, but he sure played an important role in the Senate
> making it possible for the Internet to come into being.  Government
> policies could well have prevented it, and Gore took a lead in the 1980s to
> make sure the Internet could happen.  I don't think anyone else in the
> Senate had a clue about the potential of networking back then.
>
> As to who invented the Internet, many of us working on computers in the
> 1970s and 1980s knew that it was only a matter of time so long as
> government didn't stand in the way.  The form it would take was up in the
> air, but we knew from the little networks of the 1970s that it would happen
> in some form.  No one person can claim to have invented the Internet.
> Similarly, many of us knew that something like the World Wide Web would
> happen.  I was using Gopher on the Internet before Tim Brenners Lee
> invented HTML.  Had he not invented HTML, Gopher (invented in Minnesota,
> not CERN) was poised to evolve into a hyperetext markup language.  Not the
> HTML we know, but it would have done the same things.  I strongly suspect
> there were other contenders in the wings.
>
>            Doug Jones
>            jones at cs.uioa.edu
>
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