[GreenKeys] 33asr question

Thu May 7 00:20:22 EDT 2020

My understanding of the four row model 32 was to make it more like the European teleprinters. But I was told that you needed to still hit figs to make that top row work, then ltrs to make the other three rows work.

Paul
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> On May 6, 2020, at 8:59 PM, Ralph Irish <w8roi at wowway.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> DBO
> 
> You are right, of course.  The three row keyboard should have been the tip-off right from
> the beginning.  Although there were some four row, five level machines made for Europe,
> I'm told.  The top row was numerals only.  Don't see a reason for this but it must have had
> some appeal, along the way for Teletype to make them.
> 
> Doug, it looks like you will have to keep looking  if what you need is an eight level ASCI
> machine.
> 
> Good luck on your search.
> 
> Ralph - W8ROI
> 
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> From: daveouwerkerk at aol.com
> To: "Ralph Irish" <w8roi at wowway.com>, w9ddd at tapr.org
> Cc: "nv0r" <nv0r01 at gmail.com>, greenkeys at mailman.qth.net
> Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2020 10:45:50 PM
> Subject: RE: [GreenKeys] 33asr question
> 
> I only see 3 rows of keys.  My Model 33 has 4 rows of keys.
>  
> N6DBO
>  
> From: greenkeys-bounces at mailman.qth.net <greenkeys-bounces at mailman.qth.net> On Behalf Of Ralph Irish
> Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2020 7:34 PM
> To: w9ddd at tapr.org
> Cc: nv0r <nv0r01 at gmail.com>; greenkeys at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] 33asr question
>  
> John
>  
> Your examination was much closer than mine!  I agree that the space between the two guide pins
> is much closer to 11/16" than 1".  I guess they used the same tape gate for both models.
> Also, the place where the tape exits is easily 1" wide, but again, Teletype used the same parts as
> much as possible.  The limited view of the tape in the machine also appears to be 5 level as opposed
> to 8 level.  If there had been some punched tape sticking out the end of the gate, there would be no
> questions at all.
>  
> Thanks for your sharp eyes!
>  
> 73,
>  
> Ralph - W8ROI
>  
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> From: w9ddd at tapr.org
> To: "nv0r" <nv0r01 at gmail.com>
> Cc: "Ralph Irish" <w8roi at wowway.com>, greenkeys at mailman.qth.net
> Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2020 10:20:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] 33asr question
>  
> I think you need to look at where the right tape guide pin is located, it's in the 5 level position.  The hole to the right of it is an empty hold for 8 level.
>  
> John, W9DDD
>  
> 
> On May 6, 2020, at 9:14 PM, nv0r <nv0r01 at gmail.com> wrote:
>  
> The tape is what confused me as I counted 8 holes but the nameplate indicates it is a 32tm.
> 
> If it is a 8 level ASCII then it would work for me for use with a S-100 computer but I want to be sure before spending the $$$.
> 
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> 
>  
> 
> On 5/6/2020 9:02 PM, Ralph Irish wrote:
> Doug
>  
> It appears to be a Model 35, 8 level machine for the ASCII code.  I note that the four
> 'push button' devices near the tape system are missing.  I think that these were just
> pieces of plastic that pushed against some switching device underneath.  I don't
> know what would be required to restore those items.  Just some form of 'pushing'
> thing or more.
>  
> If you look at the third photo, taken right above the tape area, you can see that there are
> eight places for punch holes, three on the left side, and five on the right side. 
>  
> It might do the job you are seeking.  I would seriously look into the  "Make Offer"
> area.
>  
> Good luck,
>  
> Ralph  W8ROI
>  
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> From: "nv0r" <nv0r01 at gmail.com>
> To: greenkeys at mailman.qth.net
> Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2020 9:29:25 PM
> Subject: [GreenKeys] 33asr question
>  
> Hello Everyone,
>  
> I have been looking for a 33ASR and I ran across a Telex machine on the 
> e... website that looks close to what I am looking for however the model 
> on the nameplate is 32 TM by Teletype, am I correct in assuming this is 
> a 5 level machine for Telex only or could it possibly be a 8 level? The 
> tape looks like it is 8 bit however I am not positive. It apears to be 
> in very good physical condition and the inside looks clean, I have a 
> couple of pictures from the seller not on the auction site. It is 
> item#223944671893.
>  
> Thanks for any advice,
>  
> Doug
>  
> NV0R
>  
> 
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