[GreenKeys] [External] Tip on loops

Sat Oct 5 19:52:24 EDT 2019

Trying to read some of the explanations of the US "ban", they SAY there was no "ban" on the bulbs but only phased-in requirements for higher energy efficiency.  But those caused 60W & other bulbs to cease production.  Some returned with halogen technology inside a normal-looking bulb.  I use lots of pseudo-60W halogens.  They have light output comparable to old 60W bulbs but run on only ~43W.
Also found that there were additional "bans" to kick in Jan 2020 that extended to previously exempted bulb types (e.g., candelabra, etc.) but the Trump admin halted those changes.

WayneWB4OGM

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From: John, W9DDD <w9ddd at tapr.org>
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Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] [External] Tip on loops

So I'm not imagining things.

I thought the primary thrust originally was elimination of the common 
60, 75 and 100 watt incandescent bulbs.  Decorative and appliance lamps 
being excluded.  In the meantime there's an open range assortment of CFL 
and LED substitutes.  Not all of them are friendly to the RF atmosphere.

Originally we were told the CFL would last 10 times longer.  I never 
found that to be the case.

Speaking of RF interference, I've found a LED lamp at Ikea that seems to 
be clean.  At least I can turn it on and not have the local 50kW AM 
station blanks out.  Physically it looks like a 40 watt incandescent. 
It makes a nice desk lamp.  And they are only $1.00 ... a loss leader?

John, W9DDD

On 10/5/2019 8:52 AM, Cory Heisterkamp wrote:
> My understanding is there was some back-peddling on the bulb ban here in 
> the states. In fact there were several different incandescent options at 
> the box store I was in yesterday. None were US made.
> 
>>
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>> It will be illegal to sell them, unless they are old stock, as it is 
>> in most of the EU and Europe. The latest rules also bans Halogen
>> https://www.which.co.uk/news/2018/08/eu-halogen-light-bulb-ban-everything-you-need-to-know/
>> I noticed my local “Bargain” store still had some Halogen, and “rugged 
>> use” incandescent bulbs can be had at a price…
>> .. but in general you are limited to LED bulbs for general purpose use…
>> Dave
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>> Anyone hear opportunity knocking?   LOL
>>
>> Wayne
>> WB4OGM
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>> On Fri, 4 Oct 2019, Frank Carraro wrote:
>>
>>
>> > Well I guess those days are gone forever.  Where can anyone buy 
>> > incandescent lamps anymore?   Hey, I used them in animal cages to keep 
>> > newborns warm.   Yeah, I know they can be found in some stores and 
>> > especially certain special applications, but...
>>
>>
>> Well, you can no longer buy them here down-under...  They're all either
>> CFLs or LEDs.
>>
>> -- Dave VK2KFU
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