[GreenKeys] Oh! It’s a present from microsoft

Curt Nixon radio.ku8l at gmail.com
Wed Apr 24 13:45:22 EDT 2019


Here's the point...Unless you are involved with internet security and 
see how the large hack hosts work, you are not aware of what is going on 
24/7.  If your site, any site is online, it is being continually pinged 
and probed for vulnerabilities.  The hackers are running bots that send 
millions of probes a day.  If a particular vulnerability is found, 
especially easy on older OS's and those not current in patches/updates 
and encryptions,  an attack targeted specifically for the vulnerability 
revealed can be done WITHOUT the web hosts' knowledge.  ( our small site 
gets queried thousands of time a day)  The malware is designed to be 
invisible and just transfers to a log-in user once connected.   THis is 
how most of the ransomware and other malware gets into a system.   
Doesn't matter how "simple" your site is or how ethical your users are, 
the probes are blind to all that.

So those that choose to ignore all of the security efforts, patches, 
updates, etc, beware....

FWIW

Curt  KU8L


On 04/24/19 9:23 AM, Bob kb8tq wrote:
> Hi
>
> The “chain of trust” on the certificate is the gotcha. If you log into 
> a US military
> site, it’s “not secure”. It’s HTTPS, but the certificate path is not 
> one that the
> commercial guys recognize,. The same thing gets you with most (if not 
> all) of
> the “free” certificates.
>
> Pile on the next layer and it’s even more silly. People like Go Daddy 
> issue
> certificates. For a first time buy, they are pretty cheap ( = buy the 
> longest term
> you possibly can). For renewal … not so cheap. Every so often Google or
> Microsoft will go to war with Go Daddy and “un-trust” their chain. I 
> haven’t seen
> it happen for years, but I have seen it.
>
> It’s all nonsense.
>
> Bob
>
>> On Apr 24, 2019, at 5:12 AM, Paul Birkel <pbirkel at gmail.com 
>> <mailto:pbirkel at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Get one from: https://letsencrypt.org/  No strings attached :->!
>> See: https://letsencrypt.org/getting-started **
>> *From:*greenkeys-bounces at mailman.qth.net 
>> <mailto:greenkeys-bounces at mailman.qth.net> 
>> [mailto:greenkeys-bounces at mailman.qth.net] *On Behalf Of *Paul Heller
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 24, 2019 4:37 AM
>> *To:* Frank Carraro
>> *Cc:* greenkeys at mailman.qth.net <mailto:greenkeys at mailman.qth.net>
>> *Subject:* Re: [GreenKeys] Oh! It’s a present from microsoft
>> This is an interesting dilemma. The way things are now, any site that 
>> is not HTTPS (encrypted HTTP) will show as not secure. This is a 
>> recent change from Google (Chrome), Microsoft (Edge), etc.  But to 
>> become HTTPS the site needs to buy a certificate (maybe there are 
>> free ones?). So that is extra cost to people like me who are only 
>> trying to run a simple website.
>> Since RTTY.com <http://rtty.com/> is hosted by a generous benefactor, 
>> I will see if HTTPS is possible.
>>
>> I’m glad it is working for you, Frank.
>>
>> Paul
>> W2TTY
>>
>> ITTY: HTTP://INTERNET-TTY.NET:8000/ITTY 
>> <http://internet-tty.net:8000/ITTY>
>> AUTOSTART: HTTP://INTERNET-TTY.NET:8030/AUTOSTART 
>> <http://internet-tty.net:8030/AUTOSTART>
>> EUROPE: HTTP://INTERNET-TTY.NET:8040/EUROPE 
>> <http://internet-tty.net:8040/EUROPE>
>>
>>
>> On Apr 24, 2019, at 10:27 AM, Frank Carraro <kf9nz at sbcglobal.net 
>> <mailto:kf9nz at sbcglobal.net>> wrote:
>>
>>> An upgrade did it.  I am so relieved
>>> that Microsoft gave me such protection from all those terrible 
>>> security breaches in rtty.com <http://rtty.com/>!!
>>> I finally was able to hear the signal even though it says “Not 
>>> Secure. Rtty.com <http://rtty.com/>” in the site name.
>>>
>>> Sorry to bother
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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