[GreenKeys] Storage of Mod 19

Thu Nov 8 21:36:22 EST 2018

I would recommend NOT using any “spray-on” lubricants as the propellant can
cause “gumming” problems with long term storage such as you find with WD-40.

REM Oil is half mineral spirits, half oil, and a touch of Teflon. Terrible
(no) rust protection, too light to prevent wear, and disappears quickly.

If you can find a lubricant in a pump or squeeze trigger applicator, you
will be much better off.

Best advice is to get something like this 

https://www.mscdirect.com/browse/tnpla/06623037?cid=ppc-google-New+-+Lubrica
nts%2C+Coolants+%26+Fluids+-+PLA_srzCpbE1u___164124448685_c_S
<https://www.mscdirect.com/browse/tnpla/06623037?cid=ppc-google-New+-+Lubric
ants%2C+Coolants+%26+Fluids+-+PLA_srzCpbE1u___164124448685_c_S&mkwid=srzCpbE
1u|dc&pcrid=164124448685&rd=k&product_id=06623037&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI8YWnv6LG
3gIVTL7ACh1nMAxtEAQYBCABEgIWavD_BwE>
&mkwid=srzCpbE1u|dc&pcrid=164124448685&rd=k&product_id=06623037&gclid=EAIaIQ
obChMI8YWnv6LG3gIVTL7ACh1nMAxtEAQYBCABEgIWavD_BwE

and fill it with light machine oil or a 3-in-One type oil.  You will thank
yourself later.

YMMV,

Joe

N9VMO

From: greenkeys-bounces at mailman.qth.net
[mailto:greenkeys-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Paul Birkel
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2018 1:16 PM
To: 'Lester Veenstra'
Cc: greenkeys at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] Storage of Mod 19

My thanks to both you and Nick for your observations.  I’ve contacted
Richard and we’ll work something out once he can gain sufficient access to
move the equipment later this month.  Apparently it’s tight quarters there.
At least there is decent driveway access so it’s mostly a horizontal move.

Does “soak” mean “spray all moving parts until dripping”?  Is REM oil a
satisfactory lubricant, itself?  WRT REM oil, what would later need to be
done to “reverse” the process?

Definitely intend to do a “basic clean” first.  And survey what’s-what and
where.  And probably ask some more questions here, and post a few photos.

Moving blankets, aside from padding/protection, are intended to seal-in
oil-fumes and seal-out (to a degree) moisture?

From: Lester Veenstra [mailto:m0ycm at veenstras.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2018 10:15 AM
To: pbirkel at gmail.com
Cc: 'Paul Heller'; greenkeys at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Storage of Mod 19

Paul:

     I am the last resort offerer, so I hope you can find your way to
rescuing these two machines.   I already have a nice working Model 19
already,, but these with reperf, are well worth savings.

With respect to your storage concerns; Two suggestions:

(1)    Before storage, take the covers off, and soak the mechanisms with
(several cans) REM oil:

https://www.amazon.com/Remington-Accessories-24027-Oil-Aerosol/dp/B0000C51AD
/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8
<https://www.amazon.com/Remington-Accessories-24027-Oil-Aerosol/dp/B0000C51A
D/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1541602788&sr=8-5&keywords=rem-oil>
&qid=1541602788&sr=8-5&keywords=rem-oil

       I get mine locally at Wallyword, Gun Department.  

(2)      If you have access to compressed air, blow the worst of the dust
off the outside, at least. Then store, covered with moving blankets, such as
these from Harbor Freight:

https://www.harborfreight.com/72-in-x-80-in-moving-blanket-69505.html

        Even better, if you can lift a bit , wrap with moving blankets.

These two actions should keep the units from degrading further, until some
local who wants them sticks his hand in the air.   Would not do any harm to
remind the group every quarter that they are available. Or possibly you and
I meet at Berryville, next fall (For one).

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Now, to make room:  Who wants a virtually new condition Model 19.  Local
pickup near the Head Waters of the Potomac River

Lester B Veenstra  K1YCM  MØYCM  W8YCM   6Y6Y

lester at veenstras.com

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From: "Paul Birkel" <pbirkel at gmail.com>
Date: November 7, 2018 at 9:12:42 AM GMT+1
To: "'Paul Heller'" <paul0926 at comcast.net>, "'E.'" <hanyou at xsmail.com>
Cc: <greenkeys at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: RE: [GreenKeys] Fwd:  2x teletype sets in Alexandria VA

While I am very local and would like to rescue these items, they’d have to
go into an unheated garage, possibly indefinitely.

We get humid summers here and I can’t but expect that those conditions would
not be good for them.

Do other folks here keep/restore/operate their equipment under such
conditions?

I’ve always assumed a dry, heated, basement or accessory building was a key
pre-condition to entering into custodial activities.

And then lots of TLC 

Am I incorrect in the former assumption?  The latter clearly goes with the
territory 

(Perhaps Paul would put me in touch with “another Greenkeys member” to see
what he’s thinking.)

From: greenkeys-bounces at mailman.qth.net
[mailto:greenkeys-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Paul Heller
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2018 1:17 AM
To: E.
Cc: greenkeys at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] Fwd: 2x teletype sets in Alexandria VA

I‘ve been in contact with another Greenkeys member who, worst case, will
make sure they are not scrapped and he has already made this known to
Richard. 

Still hoping somebody “local“ wants them...

Paul
W2TTY

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