[GreenKeys] Frequency deviations in Continental Europe including impact on electric clocks steered by frequency

Henning Treumann df3oe.henning at googlemail.com
Tue Mar 6 10:25:42 EST 2018


Teleprinters in Germany are fitted 99.9% with governed motors so they do
not care for any
mains frequency change.

All masterclock systems and even most private clocks (from wristwatches
over alarmclocks
to station clocks)
are controlled by a DCF77 time standard signal meanwhile.
Controlled by the atomic clock in Braunschweig and transmitted on longwave
77.5 kHz
from near Frankfurt/Main.
see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DCF77

Henning DF3OE
i-Telex: 925302 TREU D




2018-03-06 16:09 GMT+01:00 Bob kb8tq <kb8tq at n1k.org>:

> Hi
>
> Most schools / factories / train systems, even back in the 1950’s ran on a
> “master clock”
> system rather than a bunch of independent clocks. The issue was not so
> much line
> frequency as a power outage. Going around to a bazillion clocks to re-set
> them all to the
> correct time cost a lot of money.
>
> Back when I was in school (yes school had been invented that far back) the
> ham radio club
> guys noticed that WWV and the wall clock had an interesting relationship.
> The wall clock
> drifted during the day and between 4 and 5 pm went faster (or I suppose
> slower) to eventually
> match up with WWV by 5 pm. The largest deviation that I recall seeing was
> around 30 seconds.
>
> Bob
>
> On Mar 6, 2018, at 10:01 AM, Nick <creativegardening at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> I talked to my sister in Hamburg, Germany this morning. Yes, some clock
> systems are affected but everything else is running smoothly.
>
> Just wondering how airports, train stations, governments, etc. are
> handling the situation. Also wondering about high-tech time clocks in large
> factories and so forth - there is a possibility that the timing problem
> could reflection on payrolls. Are workers screwed now?
>
> Who knows  !
>
> Nick  -  N0NCQ
> i-Telex  212503
>
>
>
> Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Paul Heller <paul0926 at comcast.net>
> Date: 3/6/18 3:55 AM (GMT-05:00)
> To: Greenkeys <greenkeys at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: [GreenKeys] Frequency deviations in Continental Europe including
> impact on electric clocks steered by frequency
>
> It seems power in Europe is fluctuating. Has anybody’s teletypes in Europe
> been affected?
>
> https://www.entsoe.eu/news-events/announcements/
> announcements-archive/Pages/News/Frequency-deviations-in-
> Continental-Europe-including-impact-on-electric-clocks-
> steered-by-frequency.aspx
>
>
> Paul
> W2TTY
>
> ITTY: HTTP://INTERNET-TTY.NET:8000/ITTY
> <http://internet-tty.net:8000/ITTY>
> AUTOSTART: HTTP://INTERNET-TTY.NET:8030/AUTOSTART
> <http://internet-tty.net:8030/AUTOSTART>
> EUROPE: HTTP://INTERNET-TTY.NET:8040/EUROPE
> <http://internet-tty.net:8040/EUROPE>
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