[GreenKeys] 14-15-19 Etc. motor
Bob kb8tq
kb8tq at n1k.org
Thu Jul 5 20:34:02 EDT 2018
Hi
Well, 25 Hz certainly stopped off in Rochester on the way and left some interesting “stuff” up in the attic of
the house I grew up in ….
Bob
> On Jul 5, 2018, at 7:31 PM, Bruce Gentry <ka2ivy at verizon.net> wrote:
>
> When the first power station was built at Niagra Falls, 25 cycles was optimal for the turbines and generators at that time. Buffalo and Ontario had large areas on it, residential as well as industrial. It was discovered that 25 was superior for steel making in the electric furnace, so it was brought to Syracuse from Niagra Falls as well as being generated locally for use at a steel mill and several factories. Homes near these industries sometimes had it too.
>
> Bruce Gentry, KA2IVY
>
>
> On 7/5/18 6:44 PM, Bob kb8tq wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> Most of upstate New York and parts of southern Ontario had 25 Hz for quite a while. Some very big industrial users had major capital investment in *big* 25 Hz gear.
>>
>> Bob
>>
>>> On Jul 5, 2018, at 5:58 PM, Bruce Gentry <ka2ivy at verizon.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> A frequency change in the Los Angeles area took place in the 1930s, and provided many short term jobs for the unemployed. Each person was trained to convert a few models of clocks, and once the work was done, they were allowed to keep their tools. I think the utilities paid them, state laws usually require utilities to modify or replace equipment if a frequency change or elimination of DC occurs. I wonder if Hoover Dam had an effect on the frequency change? We had 25 and 60 cycles here in Syracuse, as well as DC until 1953. There were many electric clocks here that used a universal motor to wind a balance wheel movement, as well as phonograph turntables with universal motors and mechanical governors. I can't see why a governed series motor in a Teletype couldn't run on 25 cycles, does anyone know of it being done?
>>>
>>> Bruce Gentry, KA2IVY
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/5/18 4:44 PM, Richard Knoppow wrote:
>>>> Made a big market for electric clocks.
>>>>
>>>> On 7/5/2018 12:46 PM, Jim Haynes wrote:
>>>>> It's really quite simple. The 50 Hz motor will turn at 1800 rpm when
>>>>> powered by 60 Hz. The only difference in the motors is the extra iron
>>>>> ne
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