[GreenKeys] The Metric System (was Independence Day

Richard Knoppow 1oldlens1 at ix.netcom.com
Fri Jul 7 17:39:13 EDT 2017


     I now find that the recording by Paul Whiteman was probably played 
at a faster tempo than the original live performances in order to get it 
to fit on the record. Common when the longest time available was around 
6 minutes per side for a 12" 78. Nonetheless it does not explain the 
similar tempo found on the piano roll other parts of which are rather slow.

On 7/5/2017 9:51 AM, Dave Wade wrote:
> David,
> 
> Well a US “pint” of water is around a pound of water, but the others 
> have no correlation…
> 
> .. of course a UK Pint @ 20 fl oz isn’t, but it seems a more convenient 
> measure than a US pint, which is perhaps you use the “quart” more often 
> than in the UK where its really arcane.
> 
> Dave
> 
> G4UGM
> 
> *From:*greenkeys-bounces at mailman.qth.net 
> [mailto:greenkeys-bounces at mailman.qth.net] *On Behalf Of *david freeman
> *Sent:* 05 July 2017 13:30
> *Cc:* greenkeys at mailman.qth.net
> *Subject:* Re: [GreenKeys] The Metric System (was Independence Day
> 
> At my workplace we build custom automation equipment.
> 
> It is impossible to find all the components we need with Imperial threads.
> 
> Our machines are at best a mix heavier in one standard or the other.
> 
> Believe it or not, we can get closer to an all metric machine than we 
> can imperial.
> 
> One fascinating thing about the metric system is 1kg weight of water is 
> 1 liter in volume that is also 1000cc in size.
> 
> Quarts and pounds and inches have no correlation.
> 
> My major complaint about the metric system is thread pitch variety, we 
> use 3 thread sizes for M12.
> 
> We don't even have imperial fine threads in our design library.
> 
> For our equipment, imperial fine threads are a nuisance.
> 
> Teletypes on the other hand, seem to love fine threaded fasteners, even 
> extra-fine thread.
> 
> (Had to get some reference to greenkeys in here)
> 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 04, 2017 at 12:50 PM
> *From:* "info at drukknop.nl <mailto:info at drukknop.nl>" <info at drukknop.nl 
> <mailto:info at drukknop.nl>>
> *To:* greenkeys at mailman.qth.net <mailto:greenkeys at mailman.qth.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [GreenKeys] The Metric System (was Independence Day
> 
> No problems here with metric here. its the strange inch type
> (erratically called imperial) that i find confusing. no idea how to read
> my calipers in inch scale. threads are too coarse, head too big and then
> 15/32? c'mon, you can't be serious.
> 
> And imagine that you didn't used decimal system in currency. the British
> were one of the last to change to decimal counting in that.
> 
> ;)
> 
> (not to mention factories inventing their own threads and sizes for
> protection reasons...
> 
> simon)
> 
> On 04-07-17 07:12, WA5CAB--- via GreenKeys wrote:
>> It was probably invented by French and/or Germans but as far as
>> perfecting it, unh unh! Just take the ISO Metric threaded fastener
>> system. Worst real-world threaded fastener system ever devised. Thread
>> pitch is too fine. Hex nuts and hex cap screw heads are too small. Screw
>> heads are too small. Screw slots are too narrow. The system is only
>> usable in (a) a Clean Room or (b) a "total consumer" economy where when
>> something stops working instead of fixing it, it goes to a land fill and
>> a new one (that usually doesn't work as well as the old one) has to be
>> bought.
>>
>> Inconveniently sized basic units is another built-in bad feature. In
>> many cases, you have to use a million of them or a millionth of one of
>> them to get to the "real world".
>>
>> Robert Downs - Houston
>> wa5cab dot com (Web Store)
>> MVPA 9480
>>
>> In a message dated 07/03/2017 23:32:31 PM Central Daylight Time,
>> hwhall at compuserve.com <mailto:hwhall at compuserve.com> writes:
>>> You know that those weird measures came to us via England, before she
>>> swooned over a measurement system invented &perfected by French
>>> &Germans, right? :-D
>>>
>>>
>>> Wayne
>>> WB4OGM
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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