[GreenKeys] New release of "baudotrss" for Windows machines - print news ...
COURYHOUSE at aol.com
COURYHOUSE at aol.com
Wed Sep 14 04:32:24 EDT 2016
Gil - wondering if the batcave needed basket with all text? you
would get to swap it grease it etc. but as mentioned there is a chance we
might have xtra one.
Ed#
In a message dated 9/14/2016 1:08:22 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
gil at baudot.net writes:
Hey Ed:
Cost TBD. Not sure yet. I won't be making money on it -- just a labor of
love that I started about 20 years ago with my early tty pcb designs.
If you have a machine with a fractions or WX type basket, you can
certainly swap a standard ustty (or pretty close) basket in there. The keycaps
should be changed as well (unless you have an RO).
USTTY is already limited in the symbol set, and when you have a FRACTIONS
or WX machine, you just have less usable figs chars with which to work. It
is really too bad that they did not jump to 6- or 7-bit char sets earlier,
but I suppose that is part of the charm of baudot.
gil smith, AF7EZ
greenkeys moderator
gil at baudot.net
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] New release of "baudotrss" for Windows machines
- print news ...
From: COURYHOUSE at aol.com
Date: Wed, September 14, 2016 12:06 am
To: gil at baudot.net, nagle at animats.com, greenkeys at mailman.qth.net
Thanks for the update Gil!! This is amazing Gil! This will have a
great feature set. Any WAG as to cost assembled? (ballpark?)
The addition of John's feed would be indeed neat.
There is a lot of talent here in this group!
OK> On the 15 basket with fractions Gil, it is hard to swap out the
basket if you had the regular basket? Or maybe properly used the
fractions and the etc could be cool in the cave.... or in a way the
bizarre weather char. set might be interesting depending. Back in the
bowls of warehouse we have spare basket that has no place to hand it's
hat on a machine but... it may be a loose one as it is not the
standard text set. With the temperature starting to go down I will be in
that area in October.
I want to experiment with John's new release of "baudotrss" too. It
sounds lie the new installation method will make things easier. I
started to use the set up the older version a year ago but got lost along
the way. (probably lack of focus issue on my behalf) The other night
I tried the new version but tired to run it as a windows file rather than
command line start so that is way i had the previous mentioned error I
think.
Getting old is great! you get wiser... but... soldering skills go to
heck... setting up software goes to heck... teeth break... you get
cataracts... and I hate to admit it, I find myself with far less patience with just
about everything than when I was young!
The other day I had 11 teeth yanked - OUCH! that was not the worst
though... on the second day after the great extraction I got one of the worse
migraines I have ever had on tops of things. Not a good combo.
Doing better now but still feel like a horse kicked me in the mouth...
and putting off software stuff, using tools, driving for a week I think
<grin!>
The high point of my day today was a gift of a tuning fork for 60 words
per minute!
Have a great night and keep up the great work on this stuff folks.
Ed# _www.smecc.org_ (http://www.smecc.org/)
In a message dated 9/13/2016 11:36:12 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
gil at baudot.net writes:
First board going to batcave for update this Thursday. General
availability after I finish some more firmware tweaks, and maybe talk Mr. Nagle into
an ascii feed of his cool rss stuff :)
So far I have implemented two loops at different speeds, baudot
60/66/75/100 or ascii 110 on either loop, connection/conversion to/from ascii rs232
port to either loop (with xon/xoff software handshaking allowing computer to
provide immense print buffer), and SD card file printing to either loop
(with conversion), using a single pushbutton and simple lcd or vfd display
(press/release to cycle to and see next filename, and press/hold to print it
to currently-defined loop).
I have always wanted to remove the baudot code from the PC, as it has
always been an immense pain in the ass to find usable usb-232 hardware.
Putting a micro in the loop driver is the way to go. I plan to make this an
open-source project (though it needs to be ported to a free C compiler).
Files on SD card should be formatted so they print as expected (especially
rtty-art files), which means keeping the character set reasonable. I do
as much conversion as I can: lowercase will be converted to uppercase and so
on, and many ascii chars will get a "best-available" translation (eg: []
or {} to ()...), but it is best to compose the file in the restricted
character set of the expected machine. As an example, the batcave M15 is not
only a baudot M15, but it has the really-awful FRACTIONS type basket (almost
as bad as a WX basket), so the figs are even further restricted than plain
old ustty.
I'll keep you all posted, but it is progressing.
gil smith, AF7EZ
greenkeys moderator
gil at baudot.net
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] New release of "baudotrss" for Windows machines
- print news ...
From: COURYHOUSE at aol.com
Date: Tue, September 13, 2016 2:45 am
To: gil at baudot.net, nagle at animats.com, greenkeys at mailman.qth.net
this sounds neat...
John>> had tried to email you off list but think went into mbad
message folder... please add me to your contact list... have some questions
on your program and windows 10...
Gil> how soon boards will be avail?
thanks ed#
In a message dated 9/12/2016 6:54:29 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
gil at baudot.net writes:
That sounds cool John! Can you set it to simply output ascii? Something
I always wished heavymetal would do.
I do baudot conversions in the loop driver, and there is no need to be
restricted by a computer having an old-fashioned serial port, or to find a
specific usb converter off a short list of ones that can do baudot.
I would love to run your feed into my first BTTY board, which is an
upgrade to the Batcave Teletype I put in service three years ago. The upgrade is
going in this week! The batcave season opens for a new family this
Sunday.
They are mostly happy pressing the pushbutton to cycle through available
files on the SD card (displayed on a VFD display), and then a press-and-hold
to print it. Pretty simple, but sending a news feed from a computer would
be nice as well.
I just need the feed in ascii at 19200 (can easily change the rate), and
set the computer port to enable xon/xoff to throttle the data (there is a
btty buffer of 1000 bytes, but beyond that xon/xoff lets the computer buffer
anything bigger with just a click or two).
thx, gil
gil smith, AF7EZ
greenkeys moderator
gil at baudot.net
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Subject: [GreenKeys] New release of "baudotrss" for Windows machines -
print news RSS feeds on your Teletype
From: John Nagle <nagle at animats.com>
Date: Mon, September 12, 2016 4:01 pm
To: greenkeys at mailman.qth.net
Here's a new release of "baudotrss", my program for printing
RSS feeds, including news, on Baudot Teletype machines.
This version is much easier to run on Windows than the
old version. It's one EXE file, with no need to install
Python first. (It's really the same program, just packaged
up as one file.) This is the program we use at steampunk
conventions.
Program:
https://github.com/John-Nagle/baudotrss/releases/download/3.1.1/baudotrss.ex
e
This is normally run from a command line, and you have to give
it a config file to tell it about the serial port and speed.
See the instructions.
Instructions:
https://github.com/John-Nagle/baudotrss/blob/master/README.md
It should work on Windows 7 and later. It may work on Windows XP,
but it hasn't been tested there.
The default configuration prints news from the Reuters RSS feed.
Pre-release version. Please test and report bugs. Thanks.
John Nagle
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