[GreenKeys] how did the ap and upi teletypes motor on and off? i do not see extra stuff

Wed Apr 6 14:37:31 EDT 2016

    This is a very vague memory from when I had a friend at KFI. I was 
maybe twelve and it was magic there.  It seems to me the news room had 
half a dozen Teletypes, AP, UP, INS (they were separate then) City News 
Service, Weather wire and maybe NBC.  By old memory they all ran 
continuously.  They were in a sound reducing cabinet but you could still 
hear the motors hum. Plus it was hot in there and you could smell oil. I 
don't remember what kind of paper  was used but news items were clipped 
an hung as described below and I think the paper was smooth and not 
folded as fan fold would be.

On 4/6/2016 11:03 AM, Dan Provost wrote:
> Most weather offices ran 24/7 so the paper was almost always kept torn 
> off the machines and filed on hanging clipboards based on types of 
> reports.  Pilots would walk in and read the data off the clipboards 
> they were interested in.  For offices that closed at night we had 
> motorized pickup spools and we would wrap enough paper to get the 
> tension going.  Then the morning crew would undo the spool and start 
> tearing and filing on the clipboards.  We used yellow single ply roll 
> paper but sometimes we'd get a wrong shipment of double ply rolls and 
> we'd just through the back copy away as it printed. Probably cheaper 
> than shipping back.
>
> Also for some circuits, we used the same kind of timers you see for 
> swimming pool pumps (like Intermatics I believe)--heavy duty.  And the 
> M28s would turn on and off when the wheel reached the time....mostly 
> to avoid unwanted data.
>
> Ah yes the good old days.....finding data wasn't always easy.
>
>
>
> On Apr 5, 2016, at 11:29 PM, Eric <epvgk at limpoc.com 
> <mailto:epvgk at limpoc.com>> wrote:
>
>> On 04/05/2016 9:18 pm, Sheldon Daitch wrote:
>>
>>> Ed,
>>>
>>> to the best of my knowledge, AP M-15/20 machines in North Carolina 
>>> and Georgia ran the motors 24/7.
>>>
>>> I think to have any kind of motor controller was simply another 
>>> failure point and the machines were pretty much plain jane.
>>>
>>> Thinking about this, there really wasn't that much downtime on the 
>>> usual wire circuits.  Maybe 5% of the time, the machines were in 
>>> idle status?
>>>
>>> At VOA, we did have motor controllers on the M-28s,but those 
>>> machines were idle probably 18 hours per day.
>>>
>>> 73
>>>
>>> Sheldon
>>>
>> A machine that was busy that much of the time must have gone through 
>> tremendous amounts of paper. Was there that much news getting sent 
>> out on the wire? Were there giant rolls of paper or did they just get 
>> changed frequently? And did it just pile up on the floor during off 
>> hours?
>>
>> eric
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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