[GreenKeys] Teletype M12 KSR owners

Gerry Block gblock at sbcglobal.net
Mon Jan 26 10:31:19 EST 2015


Mine looks to be in working condition but haven't turned it on.

Gerry


On Friday, January 23, 2015 8:35 PM, Ed Sharpe Archivist for SMECC via GreenKeys <greenkeys at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
 


Remember  SMECC  has these... I donated my collection of them and Jim  Haynes  had scanned some ... we are still looking more but  you  will find  some  model 12  stuff  in the mix  here.
What a great resource  these are... if you have any of the missing  issues let us   borrow them to scan  or  you can scan and send files and all can  use the publications!
SMECC is of course  interested in  obtaining model 12  for the collection here  too.
Thanks Ed  Sharpe  Archivist  for SMECC


 ARTS -   Amateur Radio  Teletype Society
History and Bulletins
>From the  Jim Haynes and Red Wilson  collections at SMECC
  
Bulletins
9  10  11  12  13  14  15  16   17  18   19  20
21  22   23  24  25   26  27  28  29  30-31
32  33  34   35  36  37  38   39  40   
41  42   43   44  45   46  47    48  49 50-51
52  53  54          b-1488  Intro  
Reprint early bulletins  printed on tty paper 
 
>Resource page in the rtty_ratt_radio_teletype sub area of  the Teleprinter  section  on SMECC
http://www.smecc.org/rtty_ratt_radio_teletype.htm 
 
In a message dated 1/23/2015 7:18:54 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, 
ka2wft at arrl.net writes:
My M12,  sadly, is not running.  The individual components are 
>functional, 
  i.e. I can power up the motors on the keyboard and the 
>printer and they 
  run and they are mechanically complete, but the machine 
>as a whole does 
  not run.  I acquired my machine in the early 90s from an 
>older local 
  ham when he was downsizing and he had completely rewired the 
>machine to 
  work with a tube keyer to minimize the RFI when using it on 
>the air.  
  The keyer was not operating, there were no schematics, etc. 
>He had 
  completely rewired the table to work with the keyer ... and had 
>done 
  things like wire the power leads to the printer and keyboard motors 
>with 
  20 AWG wire!!
>
>I removed all of his wiring and have tried to get it back 
  to original, 
>yet all I get on the machine are random characters.  The 
  keyboard works 
>as I can drop it into the local loop here and can type on 
  it just fine 
>to the other machines in the collection.
>
>I am fighting 
  a number of variables: the condition of the contacts on 
>the table and the 
  keyboard and printer, the contact block on the table 
>is cracked and needs 
  to be glued or epoxied back together, and the 
>keyboard itself has been 
  completely rewired at one time and the last 
>time I spent some time with 
  the project I had come to the conclusion 
>that contact wiring on the 
  keyboard doesn't match a schematic that I 
>have for the M12 
  keyboard.
>
>When I first got the machine I set it up on the kitchen table 
  one 
>evening and hooked it up with every clip lead I own and managed to be 
>able to type on the keyboard and have it print on the printer.  I 
  recall 
>that I couldn't type at full speed on the keyboard and have the 
  printer 
>follow accurately and all of the machinery made a tremendous 
  racket, as 
>well as the electrical part of it creating a ton of RFI.  
  So I know it 
>*should* work, but that table wiring is proving to be elusive 
  for 
>something that should be relatively simple.  And of course there 
  is 
>never enough time for all of the projects.
>
>I do have the cover 
  for the machine.  I will try to get some photos and 
>measurements of 
  it.  I believe Don needs that information as well and I 
>think I 
  promised him that a long time ago :redface:
>
>I haven't been to the AWA 
  museum yet.  It's been a "gee, we should do 
>that sometime" item for a 
  local ham radio buddy and me for some time 
>now, but we haven't managed to 
  do it.
>
>Oh, and yes, you do need a separate DC supply to run the 
  selector 
>magnets in the printer.
>
>73,
>
>Doug, 
  KA2WFT
>
>
>On 1/23/2015 8:51 PM, Duncan Brown wrote:
>> Doug 
  Alderdice
>> Steve Ripper
>> Gerry Block
>>
>> Is your M12 
  working??
>>
>> I'm looking a the M12 schematic, fig 2.2a1, in 
  Kretzman's RTTY Handbook.
>> Am I correct that you need a separate 
  110VDC, _260 ma_ supply just for
>> the selector magnets (separate from 
  the loop supply)?
>>
>> The unit we have has a new terminal strip 
  with new wiring and about the
>> right number of terminals, so I am 
  assuming (hoping!) it is wired
>> similar to fig 2.2a1. (unit is at the 
  Museum, so I won't get to play
>> with it again until 
  Tuesday.)
>>
>> What holds the paper roll? Is it mounted on the 
  cover? (I don't have the
>> cover.)  There was a sheet-metal 
  u-bracket mounted to the inside of the
>> table.  It was falling 
  off, so I removed it.  But now I am thinking
>> maybe its purpose 
  was to hold the paper roll!  (I think that I can
>> "borrow" a 
  bracket from a M26.)
>>
>> Doug - we are practically 
  neighbors!  Have you ever been to the AWA
>> Museum??  We have 
  lots of TTYs (besides wireless equipment).  Come over
>> some time 
  & I give you a personal tour!
>>
>> Thanks & have 
  fun,
>>
>> Duncan Brown, K2OEQ
>> USASA  
  31J30
>>
>> Antique Wireless Association Museum Asst. Curator, 
  Commercial Equipment
>> (also Chief TTY operator & repairman)
>> 
  http://www.antiquewireless.org/
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