[GreenKeys] OT - FM radio going away in Norway.

[Duncan Brown]

Bruce,

OK, I didn't expect much, but had to ask.

As I remember (this would have been in the late 1950s), the RRN had some 
connection with WQXR ("The Radio Station of the New York Times") - they 
provided music & news.

Duncan
K2OEQ


On 21-Apr-15 20:10, Bruce Gentry wrote:
> The engineer I got the old equipment from at one of the stations told 
> me some of it was for TTY, I am only passing on what I was told. I 
> wasn't interested in the modems so I scrapped them.  All this was in 
> 1983.  I came to Syracuse in 1971, and never heard about the Rural 
> Radio Network until I found the equipment. For anything "rural"  to 
> originate in New York City seems odd, but if they were transmitting 
> TTY , it makes sense because of the commodities exchanges in New York. 
> Agriculture was a major industry in New York back then.
>
>     Bruce Gentry,  KA2IVY
>
>
> On 4/21/15 7:37 PM, Duncan Brown wrote:
>>  "FM radio" is not "going away in Norway".
>>  It is FM _ANALOG_ radio that is going away. The digital DAB 
>> broadcasts are still transmitted using a frequency modulated carrier. 
>> (I don't think anyone transmitts digital content using AM!)
>> Bruce - I used to listen to the Rural Radio Network, but didnt know 
>> about the subcarrier TTY - can you expand on that any??
>>
>> I heard that one of the causes of the demise of the RRN was the 
>> building of the World Trade Center towers - that they interfered with 
>> the original signal coming out of NY City.  Later there was the IVY 
>> network with the same stations - but I don't know how they 
>> distributed the signal.
>>
>> Have fun,
>>
>> Duncan
>> K2OEQ
>>
>>
>>
>> On 21-Apr-15 14:58, Bruce Gentry wrote:
>>> Almost 60 years ago, we had the Rural Radio Network in central New 
>>> York. It was an FM relay system where each station transmitted the 
>>> programs to the next in the chain. They also transmitted Teletype 
>>> messages mostly of agricultural  interest on a subcarrier. It worked 
>>> fairly well as long as no station in the chain failed. It wasn't 
>>> always catastrophic if one did, because the station behind the 
>>> failed one could sometimes receive the the one before the failed one 
>>> and carry on the network.  It broke apart in the 1960s because the 
>>> stations were individually owned and FM was at the bottom of 
>>> popularity and could not make enough profit to keep operating. Most 
>>> of these stations did not have a profitable AM affiliate to carry 
>>> them through the hard times until the 1970s when FM became the 
>>> rage.  I had some of the receivers, modems, and other equipment from 
>>> a couple of these stations in the early 1980s, it's all since been 
>>> scrapped or given to friends.
>>>
>>>       Bruce Gentry, KA2IVY
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 4/21/15 11:41 AM, Jeffrey D Angus wrote:
>>>> Remember when FM was first introduced? "Quality audio without the
>>>> noise"
>>>>
>>>> And especially with the advent of FM2 band (88-108) the BIG selling
>>>> point was "Hi-fi." Then of course stereo for an even better "listening
>>>> experience."
>>>>
>>>> Now the corporate raiders have figured out that the bandwidth is
>>>> better suited to multiple income streams. They same way they've
>>>> been pushing for IBOC on the AM bands.
>>>>
>>>> And it's going to be just like cable TV. 600 channels of crap.
>>>>
>>>> /end rant
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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