[GreenKeys] Model 37, the 'hotline' and sales to the Soviets
Ed Sharpe via GreenKeys
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Tue Apr 22 21:53:58 EDT 2014
Don... we would be delighted to add the manuals and test set to SMECC...thanks. Ed www.smecc.org
Don Robert House <62.5milliamps at gmail.com> wrote:
>Stephen,
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>The 103G Dataphone was integrated into some of the M37s cabinets.
>Unlike any other Dataphone... one is locked up at the
>SDSU Library store room with over $400,000 (1977 dollars) of other
>Teletype and Data equipment. I hope it will be put on
>display before I check out.
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>The M37 machines used by Western Electric and other Bell affiliates
>were recalled, refurbished and indeed sold to the Soviet Union.
>I knew the instructor at Teletype Corp in Chicago's Morton Salt
>Building that went to Moscow to teach the M37 to their technicians.
>The 37s sent to the Russians were to be terminals for a NCR computer
>that was also sold to them.
>I never knew how or if the typeboxes and keyboards were modified or
>left as is.
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>After we changed out the ribbon guides and replaced the typing
>reperforators with non-typing reperforators we had
>very little problems with them. The only M37s we had in our district
>were at the Western Electric building in
>Rolling Meadows, IL. After the sale to the USSR started I moved into
>engineering and the field techs replaced them with Model 40s.
>The maintenance nightmares were the Model 38s not the Model 37s...
>unless you had one of the ASRs with the typing reperforator.
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>Ben Stephens or Larry Schear might now the timeframe for the questions
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>you are asking.
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>BTW I still have manuals and a test set cover you left here when all
>of my stuff went to your two museums.
>I do not know where to send them.
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>Don
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>On 18 Apr 2014, at 10:37 AM, Stephen Jones wrote:
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>Charcoal or Light Gray keys?
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>I've heard the story about Model 37s used on the 'hotline' between the
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>Whitehouse and the Kremlin. These were special ASR sets with
>a tone dial CCU using a BELL 103 dataset. If this is true, what date
>range are we talking? I've heard they were in service from 1972 to
>1983. I've also heard that Teletype bought back Model 37s towards the
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>end of the 1970s and then "sold them to the Soviets". Is there
>any truth to that? I'm curious to know because for all the "it was a
>maintenance nightmare" stories out there, this one is pretty damn
>historically significant.
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>The Model 37 is certainly a marvel of engineering with many advanced
>features. If you've ever seen one run with the cover off, it looks
>like it is just at the edge of flying apart. It also makes a 28
>operating at 100wpm look smooth, calm and collected (and they are!)
>From
>their introduction in 1969 it seems like they had a 5 or 6 year window
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>before they were surpassed by video terminals, especially one of
>Teletype's biggest customers DEC.
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>As far as Pacific Northwest Bell's use of Model 37s they had one in
>the Data Test Center which was wired into a special translator box
>that would allow it to work as a swiss army knife of all Teletype
>lore. It also used a special sized typebox with extra pallets. A
>'normal' 37
>ASR (considered RARE) was used for receiving orders in the plant
>service center as forms printing is one of its main features.
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>A few links of Model 37 interest:
>A picture showing two 37 typeboxes and a 28 and 35: http://tx0.org/7mh
>A picture of a Model 37 printing something interesting:
>http://tx0.org/7mi
>A video of a Model 37 talking to another Model 37 http://tx0.org/7mk
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>Stephen Jones, W0TTY
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