[GreenKeys] OT: weather balloon telemetry
Chris Elmquist
chrise at pobox.com
Tue Nov 5 17:16:59 EST 2013
There's also the "EggBeater",
http://www.dxzone.com/cgi-bin/dir/jump2.cgi?ID=23658
which would provide circular polarization too and would be a little
bit like a "bouncy ball" when hung underneath the balloon.
Chris N0JCF
On Tuesday (11/05/2013 at 04:05PM -0600), Chris Elmquist wrote:
> So, you are going to downlink on 2m? 144.390?
>
> You might consider a crossed-dipole (sometimes referred to as a
> "turnstile") antenna which will give you circular polarization and
> reduce fade if the balloon is spinning. It will be 3dB down from a
> linear polarized antenna on the ground but if there is any spin, it will
> not go through peaks and valleys as the two antennas go in and out of
> polarization alignment.
>
> It will then also be "flat" on the bottom of the balloon (would look like
> a "+" as you look up at the bottom of the balloon) and then won't stick
> in the ground when it comes down but instead be a little like landing
> gear :-)
>
> Here's one discussion,
>
> http://www.west.net/~jay/turnstile.html
>
> Chris N0JCF
>
> On Tuesday (11/05/2013 at 08:49AM -0700), gil at baudot.net wrote:
> > OK folks, after some good info from several of you, it does sound like
> > using 144.390 MHz APRS tracking would be the best bet for this balloon
> > project.
> >
> > This means I need to study for a ham test now, but they seem to be
> > offered frequently enough, so I guess I will need to start learnin'
> > some new stuff!
> >
> > Back to my question about antennas: what to hang under the balloon?
> > It has been pointed out how it needs to be omni. I suppose the
> > simplest would be a 1/4 wave hanging down, and suspended by three or
> > four angled ground wires that connect to a simple
> > three-or-four-radial-dowel frame or something. The antenna would
> > collapse on the ground (of course we hopefully have GPS coordinates for
> > the descent, so we can find it).
> >
> > Any other antenna recommendations? Dipole? Patch? Nothing commercial
> > -- something I can fabricate out of lightweight wire or foil.
> >
> > thx, gil
> >
> > gil smith
> > greenkeys moderator
> > [1]gil at baudot.net
> >
> > References
> >
> > 1. mailto:gil at baudot.net
>
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