[GreenKeys] GreenKeys Daytonites we have a year to prepare!

Tue May 21 08:17:37 EDT 2013

Surprised to not see a single real TTY at Dayton;  This is the first I
attended.

Plenty of R-390As and even a R-391

Lester B Veenstra  MØYCM K1YCM W8YCM

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From: greenkeys-bounces at mailman.qth.net
[mailto:greenkeys-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ralph Irish
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 10:38 AM
To: greenkeys at mailman.qth.net
Subject: [GreenKeys] GreenKeys Daytonites we have a year to prepare!

I think back to the 'good old days' of Dayton in the 60s through 90s and
have fond memories

of the RTTY Journal Hospitality Room at the (now defunct) Imperial House
Hotel at the

intersection of I-75 and Needmore Roads.  It ran for one evening,
originally, then was

expanded to two evenings toward the end as the DARA expanded the overall
timeframe of

the event.

Initially, Dusty Dunn, W8CQ picked up the tab for most of the expense of the
room rental

and a few bottles of 'kool aid', and others were kind enough to bring their
own favorite

flavors, etc.  At one point, an old gentleman named Henry, whose call I
thought I had

remembered, started sending a bottle of his own favorite flavor of 'Kentucky
Kool Aid'

to the event for the pleasure of those in attendance.  His health had
reached a point

where he could no longer travel.

Henry's contribution to the 'state of the art', back in vacuum tube days was
to design

a TU which used two channel filters tuned to the same frequency!  He
discovered that it

was much easier to create two identical filters, with the same "Q" and
bandpass, etc.,

than to mess around for hours or days, trying to create two filters on
different

frequencies with similar or identical "Q", etc.  How did it work?  Easy.  He
added an

additional Product Detector, similar or identical to the one in the receiver
in use,

and detuned the Product Detector by +/- 850, 425 or 170 Hz.  One filter was
somehow

connected to the output of the receiver's Product Detector and the other to
the one

in the TU.  The end result was great copy!

Anyway, I'd like to see the RTTY Hospitality Suite restored to it's rightful
place in

ham history.  Any thoughts on this matter?  

Back then, the Imperial House Hotel was a great 'central point' for people
staying

in other area hotels.  The Little York Road exit (no longer in existence)
was one

exit north, and the Ford Waggoner Road exit was one exit south, and Needmore
Road,

itself, was one easy way to get to the Wright Patterson AFB Air Museum by
following

signs.

When Dusty Dunn sold the Journal, Hank Scharf, W6SKC, the owner of DOVETRON
said he

would continue the event at his expense.  He never brought products to
advertise,

as he might have, and rarely discussed business at these gatherings.  I
doubt if

he ever took a check home to later fulfill an order.  He did, on a few
occasions,

bring an item which was shown to just a few people, in his room, as opposed
to

putting it on display in the Hospitality Room.  

Anyway, I feel I've got a few more Daytons in me, and would like to see this
old

tradition restored to some degree.  It needs someone willing to make the

arrangements, solicit/collect funds and 'do the deed' letting people know
about

it.  I'm more of an 'idea person' as opposed to an 'action person'.  My main

area of interest for the past 20 years, or so, has been working with Carole
Perry,

WB2MGP, the Moderator of the Dayton Youth Forum.  You 'RTTY Daytonites' owe
it to

yourself to attend this at least once.  It has grown to the point where DARA
has

given the coveted Forum Room 1 to this event.  Room 2 often was filled past
the

point deemed comfortable by the Fire Marshall, etc., and DARA came up with a

good alternative.  Our local (Michigan) radio club has funded a number of
Door

Prizes for the kids in attendance.  I have been Carole's 'extra pair of
hands'

for a number of things needing attention, at the lase minute, etc.

I, personally, will start the ball rolling with $100.00 as 'seed money' or
start-

up money, etc.  THIS IS NOT A CONTEST, AND OUTSIDE OF GREENKEYS, I DON'T SEE
A

NEED TO PUBLISH WHO GAVE WHAT, ETC.  That the event is funded by 'interested

parties', should be enough for outside advertising.

It might also be neat to have an RTTY station in the corner of the room.  A 

simple 28KSR, TU and transceiver would do it, with a simple antenna outside
the

window of the room.  But, let's get the Hospitality Room off the ground
before

the RTTY station.

I invite comments on list and off list.

(Hope I am not opening Pandora's Box!)

73,

Ralph - W8ROI

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