[GreenKeys] Problems with AOL and 'bulk mail' situations

[David Effa]

Another like:  http://web.mit.edu/lists/mailman/subscriber.htm (
http://bit.ly/1bSQJNb)

I am assuming that the option for "*Receive your own posts to the list?" *is
already set to Yes and that is not the issue but the ISP as others have
pointed out.

-Dave



On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 4:12 PM, David Effa <wd9itr at arrl.net> wrote:

> I found this that explains AOL and others:  http://bit.ly/11woBuX
>
> Similar issue with Gmail:   http://bit.ly/11MPx9D
>
> -
> Dave
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 9:49 PM, <gil at baudot.net> wrote:
>
>> Hey Ralph:
>>
>> Yeah, it's a bummer that aol is so screwy.  Luckily I don't have to jump
>> through hoops like you did, I can only say "oh well, not much I can do,"
>> and leave it up to the users to deal with it (like, get a friendlier isp).
>>
>> I can re-enable bounce-disabled accounts (which takes a while) over and
>> over, and I have set bounce trigger limits to max, but other than that I
>> have no control over how mailman deals with the issue.
>>
>> Surprisingly, it just does not seem to be an issue with other ISPs.  Ya
>> know, my credit card companies "learn" my habits so they can spot unusual
>> activity...
>>
>> You would think that aol would know that after a user has been getting
>> daily email from greenkeys (for months or years or a decade, sheesh), that
>> it is ok to whitelist greenkeys and not piss off their users.  Just silly
>> programming by inexperienced software types, I suppose.
>>
>> gil
>>
>>
>> gil smith
>> greenkeys moderator
>> gil at baudot.net
>>
>>
>>  -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: Problems with AOL and 'bulk mail' situations
>> From: Ralph Irish <w8roi at wowway.com>
>> Date: Mon, June 17, 2013 3:33 pm
>> To: gil at baudot.net
>>
>> *Gil*
>> *
>> *
>> *I've encountered similar problems with AOL in trying to send out
>> information to high school classmates*
>> *using AOL.  I was 'blacklisted' as a suspected SPAMmer and was locked
>> out of  ALL  AOL  mailing!  Even*
>> *other items not related to my classmates.*
>> *
>> *
>> *I had to work with Wide Open West, my ISP, to get this resolved.  MORE
>> THAN ONCE!   For a reunion, a*
>> *few years back, I had to divide the AOL e-mail amongst several of the
>> Reunion Committee members to make*
>> *certain that classmates got the info.  Some of them were a bit
>> reluctant to participate, since they*
>> *didn't **want to get locked out of AOL, either.*
>> *
>> *
>> *Not pretty!  Whoever writes the 'protective software' for AOL got
>> carried away.*
>> *
>> *
>> *I hope that any future instances for GreenKeys will continue to be
>> 'auto repairing' and that the mail*
>> *will go through.*
>> *
>> *
>> *Thanks for your ongoing efforts.*
>> *
>> *
>> *Ralph - W8ROI*
>> *GreenKeys*
>> *
>> *
>> *
>> *
>>
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