[GreenKeys] 9. Teletype Machine Model 32
Meaghan Murphy
meg at meaghanmurphy.com
Tue Jun 11 14:14:10 EDT 2013
Hi Everyone!
Wow, thanks so much to everyone for your thoughtful and detailed responses. I really appreciate it! It would be so cool to get this working, and have people send and receive telegrams in a coffee shop or storefront as a quasi-art project. I would love nothing more than to try and get this to work, but unfortunately, I'm under strict orders from my roommate to get rid of it ASAP. Also, I think it's way beyond my (very limited) technical abilities and I would hate to screw up such a beautiful machine. I'm located in Southern California, and if anyone is interested in restoring this machine, please let me know. I'm planning on putting this up on eBay on Thursday, but I would rather it go to a good home to someone in the newsgroup. In an ideal world, I would love to collaborate with someone. If you can get it to work, I would find a place to display (temporarily–maybe over a weekend in a gallery or other venue) it in action! I'm open to ideas. Please contact me at: meg at meaghanmurphy.com if you're interested.
Thanks again,
Meaghan Murphy
meaghanmurphy.com
@meaghanmurphyla
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> 1. Re: Telegraph "clicker" for actual sounder (Steve Schlink)
> 2. Re: Model 43 tape punch-reader project (Teletypeparts)
> 3. Re: Telegraph sounder (Lee Mushel)
> 4. Re: Telegraph sounder (Richard Knoppow)
> 5. Re: There is another alternative (Frank Carraro)
> 6. Fwd: Thanks! (Nick England)
> 7. Re: James Lobasa (Til128 at aol.com)
> 8. Re: Telegraph sounder (John Nagle)
> 9. Teletype Machine Model 32 (Meaghan Murphy)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 12:30:38 -0400
> From: Steve Schlink <sschlink at mindspring.com>
> To: Derek Cohn/WB0TUA
> <vibroplex at mindspring.com>,<greenkeys at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] Telegraph "clicker" for actual sounder
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> At 06:08 PM 6/9/2013 -0500, Derek Cohn/WB0TUA wrote:
>> As such, a buzzer or other device that would emit a tone when the circuit
>> closer is closed would not be suitable. I'm looking for something that
>> will energize when the circuit closer is closed and release when it is opened.
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> OK, not audible, so I guess that only leaves visual ...
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> A light bulb/LED ?
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> Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 12:31:02 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Teletypeparts <teletypeparts at aol.com>
> To: kolchak1 at yahoo.com, greenkeys at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] Model 43 tape punch-reader project
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> Doug,
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> I was under the impression that 43's came out in the 1970's, but I expect Don knows for sure.
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> You should be able to find a 43 or 42 (much rarer) cheaply as you could not give them away a few years ago. I tossed a 43 KSR into a dumpster a couple of years ago when I had a new roof put on the house.
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> Cassette tape storage I have seen when I worked for WU Data Services in Portland, Maine for a short time. Cant remember much about the details except you put the message on cassette instead of punched tape and then sent it.
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> Wayne
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> From: Doug <kolchak1 at yahoo.com>
> To: greenkeys <greenkeys at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Sun, Jun 9, 2013 5:18 pm
> Subject: [GreenKeys] Model 43 tape punch-reader project
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> One of my interests is the ?retro? product styling of the late 60?s - mid 70?s. The Model 43 (and 42) tape punch/reader is a classic example of this.
> Doubtful I will find an original, I may try making a replica of the enclosure, and put in a suitable tape punch/reader, from say a model 32. Anyone
> who has photos, drawings, manuals or technical information, let me know. Thanks to Don House, for already helping out on the project!
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> Also, I saw online (probably a Teletype ad, not sure I saved it), a reference made to a ?cassette storage? option for this model. Is that referring to a
> peripheral storage device? Did such a device exist?
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> Below are a couple nice photos of a 43 TTY and tape punch/reader, in you are interested.
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> http://s1297.photobucket.com/user/Carl_Kolchak1/library/?sort=3&page=1
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> As mentioned in a separate post, I?m also looking for a Model 43 (42) Teletype, hopefully close to New Jersey.
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> Doug Wirth
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> Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 16:26:01 -0600
> From: "Lee Mushel" <herbert3 at centurytel.net>
> To: "David Christ" <radioham at mchsi.com>, "Derek Cohn/WB0TUA"
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> Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] Telegraph sounder
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> I found this to be a thoroughly enjoyable thread. I had forgotten that when you walked past the railroad depot with windows open in summer you would often hear the sound of such a device! Then, a year and a half ago the entertainment program for a monthly ham radio meeting featured a gentleman who thought he was the last of the original railroad telegraphers put on a demonstration of his art using "the real thing." Someone did offer to buy it but as I recall he replied that it had already been promised to a railroad museum upon his demise......
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> Regards,
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> Lee K9WRU
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> From: David Christ
> To: Derek Cohn/WB0TUA
> Cc: greenkeys at mailman.qth.net
> Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 9:58 AM
> Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] Telegraph "clicker" for actual sounder
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> The thing you are looking for is a telegraph sounder. There are currently several on ebay currently asking $10 up. That is a place to start.
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> I did run across a simple DIY set as well
> <http://www.makershed.com/Reinventing_Morse_Build_Your_Own_Telegraph_Kit_p/mkhe02.htm>
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> A rather more ambitious and better sounding project is this
> <http://steampunkworkshop.com/telegraph.shtml>
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> From: "Richard Knoppow" <1oldlens1 at ix.netcom.com>
> To: "Lee Mushel" <herbert3 at centurytel.net>, "David Christ"
> <radioham at mchsi.com>, "Derek Cohn/WB0TUA" <vibroplex at mindspring.com>
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> From: "Lee Mushel" <herbert3 at centurytel.net>
> To: "David Christ" <radioham at mchsi.com>; "Derek Cohn/WB0TUA"
> <vibroplex at mindspring.com>
> Cc: <greenkeys at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 3:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] Telegraph sounder
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> I found this to be a thoroughly enjoyable thread. I had
> forgotten that when you walked past the railroad depot with
> windows open in summer you would often hear the sound of
> such a device! Then, a year and a half ago the
> entertainment program for a monthly ham radio meeting
> featured a gentleman who thought he was the last of the
> original railroad telegraphers put on a demonstration of his
> art using "the real thing." Someone did offer to buy it
> but as I recall he replied that it had already been promised
> to a railroad museum upon his demise......
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> Regards,
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> If you are looking for a sounder there are plenty on
> ebay. There were various kinds but I think any would work
> for a demonstration or for learning American Morse. The
> sounders in telegraph offices were often in a "resonator" to
> concentrate the sound. Resonators also show up but often at
> high prices. They are not difficult to build. A sounder in a
> resonator is _very_ loud. Resonators were intended to make
> sounders audible in large offices with many sounders and
> relays and for copying on a typewriter. Telegraph central
> offices must have been very noisy places
> There are several web sites for telegraph equipment
> collectors which will help to identify the various sorts of
> sounders.
> I've tried learning to copy on a sounder but it makes my
> ears ring.
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> Richard Knoppow
> Los Angeles
> WB6KBL
> dickburk at ix.netcom.com
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> Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 18:05:47 -0500
> From: "Frank Carraro" <kf9nz at sbcglobal.net>
> To: <greenkeys at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] There is another alternative
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> let's edit the sentence: "As such, a buzzer or other device that would emit
> a tone DURING THE TIME WHILE THE circuit closer is closed would not be
> suitable" I'm looking for something that emits an "audible" at the
> instant that the circuit is closed, remains silent during the time while the
> circuit remains closed, then emits another "audible" when the circuit opens.
> Nowhere was "not audible" stated. In addition there ARE other things such
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Schlink [mailto:sschlink at mindspring.com]
> Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 11:31 AM
> To: Derek Cohn/WB0TUA; greenkeys at mailman.qth.netDerek Cohn/WB0TUA
> Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] Telegraph "clicker" for actual sounder
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> At 06:08 PM 6/9/2013 -0500, Derek Cohn/WB0TUA wrote:
>> As such, a buzzer or other device that would emit a tone when the circuit
>> closer is closed would not be suitable. I'm looking for something that
>> will energize when the circuit closer is closed and release when it is
> opened.
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> OK, not audible, so I guess that only leaves visual ...
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> A light bulb/LED ?
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> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 20:01:54 -0400
> From: Nick England <navy.radio at gmail.com>
> To: greenkeys at qth.net
> Subject: [GreenKeys] Fwd: Thanks!
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> Update from James Tanton.
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>> From: Yahoo! <lobasa at bellsouth.net>
>> Date: June 10, 2013 5:27:06 PM EDT
>> To: "navy.radio at gmail.com" <navy.radio at gmail.com>
>> Cc: James Tanton <lobasa at bellsouth.net>
>> Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] Thanks!
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>> Thanks Nick! They removed 30 staples around 10:45 A.M. I
>> Went through aggressive therapy. I am in the bed now with my
>> Leg on a machine. The machine is an ARTROMOT- K 3.
>> They or rather I pull up leg and rest on cushion. They use vel-
>> cro. The unit moves with my leg moving with it. It runs for 2 to 4
>> hours. It is painful but it will get better.
>> You are welcome to share it with the greenkeys
>> group. It takes an hour to write an email from here
>> because of the pills.
>> James
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> Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 21:26:26 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Til128 at aol.com
> To: greenkeys at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] James Lobasa
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> Hi all:
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> Well, it looks like I planted my foot directly in my mouth by making an
> error about James Tanton's last name as "Lobasa".
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> How I ASSumed that I will never know.
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> I apologize to all and especially to him.
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> Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 09:19:44 -0700
> From: John Nagle <nagle at animats.com>
> To: greenkeys at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] Telegraph sounder
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>> At 11:10 PM 6/8/2013 -0500, Derek Cohn/WB0TUA wrote:
>>>> However, I need something to serve as the sounder. I'm not aware of
>>>> anyone who makes sounders anymore.
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> There are lots of sounders on eBay. Here are some of
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> http://www.ebay.com/itm/WU-Tel-Co-Antique-telegraph-sounder-8-A-/121122828059
> $9.99 WU 8A sounder, circa 1920, needs cleaning.
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> http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-TELEGRAPH-SOUNDER-/121122234348
> $15.00 Sounder, 1920s style, not WU. On board which previously
> contained a key as well, but key has been removed.
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> http://www.ebay.com/itm/vintage-railroad-Western-Union-CHROME-telegraph-key-sounder-KOB-set-WORKS-/140991856206
> $25 Key and sounder on one board. Chrome, tested OK
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> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Army-J-38-Morse-Code-Key-and-W-U-Telegraph-Sounder-400-Ohm-/281119471571
> $17.50 US Army key and WU sounder on same board. Somewhat mismatched.
> Said to work.
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> Message: 9
> Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 10:42:14 -0700
> From: Meaghan Murphy <meg at meaghanmurphy.com>
> To: greenkeys at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [GreenKeys] Teletype Machine Model 32
> Message-ID: <B5DF149D-7778-4923-B61A-ABD8E16C3996 at meaghanmurphy.com>
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> Hi Everyone!
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> I recently acquired a Teletype machine and I have been doing a little bit of research to learn more about it, and I found this newsgroup. If anyone would like to share their expertise, I would certainly appreciate it! From what I understand, assuming the machine is still in operable condition, I could hook it up to some sort of modified computer terminal and have it send and receive messages. Has anyone tried this? I know that I may have gone down the rabbit hole a bit with this, but I love that people are repurposing 40+ year old technology. Thanks in advance for your help!
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