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I would  read  your  contract  you had  with the  photographer.
did  you have one?
No?  well shame on  you.
 
 
Actually in the  old  days    the negatives  remained property of the study 
and the customer purchased prints   this  went  for  studio portraiture and 
weddings. When I woed in  studios  this is  the  way  we  did it.
 
 
Back in my  youth  I used to shoot  some weddings to  supplement   my 
industrial photography work ...  since I hate  dealing  with customers ... I hate 
hand holding  and  since I  hated  sorting proof sets and putting them in 
albums  I would charge a  flat rate and send them to  take the film after  I  
handed off  off to them  to  colormark labs here in town.  quick easy   
money  for n evenings  work...
 
general  rule  unless it  was agreed prior  to   shooting and production -  
on  for  any  photo   work  The negatives are the property of the  
photographer.  
 
 
you are  correct about the photographer having to have a signed   release 
to use  photos  for  promotional purposes...
 
but let me tell you.,.,   when it  comes to news   photos    used in a news 
 contest...  it is   WHOLE  DIFFERENT  BALLGAME  If  I am  at the Sideline  
Fiesta  Bowl and pan the crowd I can  run peoples   faces  for the  next  
100 years.  I had  some  lumox   try to extort money  out of me after a game 
one   time...  I just about busted a gut laughing!
 
 
Ed#
 
 
 
In a message dated 7/5/2013 4:24:55 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
tony.podrasky at gmail.com writes:

Hey Nic  & al;

When the photographer took my wedding pictures (digital  camera,
of course), and we got together a week later to go over  them,
The final bill was like $900 for his work (about 4 hours  worth),
and another $200 for the full set of prints. (might have been  more
or less - I don't remember).

I told him I don't want the  prints. All I want is either a DVD
with all the photos on it or access to  download them to my computer.

Here we go: [P = photographer] [M =  me]

P: I can't do that.
M: Why?
P: Because they're  copyrighted.
M: ???
M: What do you mean, "they're copyrighted"?
P:  They're my "intellectual property".
M: ???
M: I dunno about that. They  may have been taken by you, but
they are of me and my  wife.
P: (blank stare).
M: Tell yah what: you give me a DVD and you save  the time of
printing all the pictures, and I save $200.
P:  I can't do that.
M: (now I'm getting cranked-off).
M: OK - here's my  final offer: If you don't give me a DVD,
I'm NOT GOING TO PAY  YOU, and since I haven't signed a release,
if you publish the  pictures I'll sue you into the next dimension!
P: (no comment).
M:  (getting up to leave) Ball's in your court - and remember: I had
plenty of friends there that were taking the important  pictures,
as well as the silly ones - and they'll give 'em to  me for free.

Got my DVD.

Of course, I brought my laptop when I  picked it up to make sure that
it loaded all the pix onto my  HDD.

That might not work with FedEx/Kinkos - but it did work on him!  :-)

UE,
W6ESE - tony
NNNN
ZCZC


On 07/05/2013 03:42  PM, Nick England wrote:
> Its the
> same on their smaller format  copiers  Internally they are scanning to
> digital and then  printing but they won't let you get to the data.
> Sounds crazy to me  but that's what they told me is policy.
>
> Nick (phone email  acct)

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