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Thu Feb 7 01:39:07 EST 2013


but  only  some  printed... whereas this  system here   seems to be a fully=
=20
switched  system?
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I  guess  I am  curious   how the    police station  would  talk   out to=
=20
other  things   would the system  than also work something like   this   on=
e =20
below where they could select  a target to type  to?!
=20
Ed Sharpe archivist for SMECC  _www.smecc.org_ (http://www.smecc.org) =20
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These signals find the way (Jan, 1953)
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(http://blog.modernmechanix.com/mags/ScientificAmerican/1-1953/signals.jpg)=
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These signals find the way=20
When you dial a telephone number, high-speed switching mechanisms select =
=20
your party and connect you. Through a new development of Bell Telephone =20
Laboratories, similar mechanisms are doing the same kind of job in private =
 wire=20
teletypewriter systems which America=E2=80=99s great businesses lease from =
the =20
telephone company.=20

Company X, for example, operates an air transportation business with =20
scores of offices all over the country. At one of these offices, a =20
teletypewriter operator wishes to send a message, let us say, to Kansas Cit=
y.  Ahead of=20
the message, she types the code letters =E2=80=9CKC=E2=80=9D. The letters b=
ecome  electric=20
signals which guide the message to its destination.=20

Any or all stations in a network, or any combination of stations, can  be=
=20
selected. Switching centers may handle 50 or more messages a minute . . . =
=20
some users send 30,000 messages a day. Delivery time is a few minutes.=20

Defense manufacturers, automobile makers, airlines and many other  American=
=20
businesses are benefiting by the speed and accuracy of the new  equipment -=
=20
another example of how techniques developed by the Laboratories  for=20
telephone use contribute to other Bell System services as well.=20

BELL TELEPHONE LABORATORIES
Improving telephone service for America  provides careers for creative men=
=20
in scientific and technical  fields.

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In a message dated 2/17/2013 7:26:32 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, =20
w8roi at wowway.com writes:

Re: Teletypes in Police Stations


Our Township PD had a Model 28ASR in service to be able to communicate =20
with the State Police
Headquarters in Lansing Michigan, and to the Secretary of State of =20
Michigan to be able to=20
'run auto plates' to check for stolen vehicles, outstanding tickets, =20
warrants, etc. I was in
the station one day, delivering some fruit for our Band Boosters, and =20
struck up a conversation
with the guy on duty. At that time, they had mostly officers as =20
dispatchers. He was a friendly
sort and we chatted for a while.


He was surprised when I told him that I had a Teletype machine at  home!=20
And, that I used it!
I noted that the machine there would come to life from time to time,  but=
=20
not print anything.=20
Then I remembered 'Print Suppression', and Selective calling, etc.  This=20
machine was on one large
'data loop' including Police stations all over our county, but not =20
necessarily all of them. Mostly
the larger communities.


I asked him if they would have any interest in knowing what the  machine=20
was suppressing? In many
instances, a call would go to one community asking for something, and =20
if/when the requester got a
'negative', the query would go to another community, etc. I tried to =20
describe the HAL RVD loop to
Video system, and the later, Leland Associates device which did the  same=
=20
thing with different=20
results showing on the screen.=20


The two-way radio shop I moonlighted in had, for some reason, one of  the=
=20
Hal RVD units. I told our
boss about the conversation I had with this officer and he had the  idea of=
=20
attaching the HAL RVD to
a Teletype in THAT community. He went over and, working with an  officer=20
who was in charge of all
of the communications for that department, they got the HAL RVD hooked  up=
=20
and connected to a video
monitor. Once the HAL unit was turned on, the screen was showing =20
everything going on when the 'info
loop' had any activity. They saw all sorts of activity directed to and =20
from other communities and
in a few cases, were able to offer assistance in advance of being  asked=20
for it! This made a few of
the other community dispatchers a little curious. HOW DID THEY KNOW?  Most=
=20
of the dispatchers had
seen their own machines operating without printing, and probably asked  a=
=20
Michigan Bell tech what was
going on, etc. The Techs probably knew how to temporarily disable the =20
Print Suppression Solenoid
to make the machine respond to everything. Hopefully, they did not  share=
=20
this info or there would
have been a run on Teletype paper!=20


I think that Print Suppression requires the "ZERO BAR" and that not  all 28=
=20
printers have this bar. It
is also required for some other operations. Maybe Auto CR/LF and =20
Non-Overline as well.


Anyway, the local Chief was not impressed by the 'eavesdropping' and  said=
=20
that their budget would not
allow them to purchase the equipment, anyway. At that time, the HAL  RVD=20
was selling for around $495,
and a decent bandwidth video monitor was several hundred dollars more.  So,=
=20
that was a short-lived
operation.


Not long after that, Michigan communities made the move to Model 35 =20
machines, and were ultimately
connected to the LEIN System, or "Law Enforcement Information  Network". No=
=20
telling what became of those
old Model 28s. I would guess that they belonged to Michigan Bell, and  were=
=20
being leased by the various
Police departments. But, I can dream, can't I?


- - - -


Today almost all Police Departments have high speed, high quality =20
computers and high speed lines to a number
of other 'data sources and destinations', and short of having some  kind of=
=20
'hacker' on staff, they would
probably not be able to see what is happening in other communities as =20
described above.


73,


Ralph - W8ROI













In a message dated 2/17/2013 3:48:57 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, =20
COURYHOUSE at aol.com writes:

Teletypes in police stations... anyone  done a definitive study on  this!?
=20
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articles&nbsp; etc?</FONT></EM></DIV>
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t there=20
a while back but...&nbsp; not&nbsp; on the&nbsp; police...<BR>From what Ral=
ph=20
tells&nbsp; us -- things&nbsp; got&nbsp; sent on a loop to&nbsp; all ttys&n=
bsp;=20
but&nbsp; only&nbsp; some&nbsp; printed... whereas this&nbsp; system here&n=
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police station&nbsp; would&nbsp; talk&nbsp;&nbsp; out to other=20
things&nbsp;&nbsp; would the system&nbsp; than also work something like&nbs=
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type=20
to?!</FONT></EM></DIV>
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: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; TEXT-INDENT: 0px; LETTER-SPACING: normal; FON=
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: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; TEXT-INDENT: 0px; LETTER-SPACING: normal; FON=
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0,0); WORD-SPACING: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-strok=
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These signals find the way (Jan, 1953)</H2>
<P=20
style=3D"WIDOWS: 2; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; TEXT-INDENT: 0px; LETTER-SPACING:=
 normal; FONT: medium 'Times New Roman'; WHITE-SPACE: normal; ORPHANS: 2; C=
OLOR: rgb(0,0,0); WORD-SPACING: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webki=
t-text-stroke-width: 0px"><A=20
href=3D"http://blog.modernmechanix.com/mags/ScientificAmerican/1-1953/signa=
ls.jpg"></A></P>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"WIDOWS: 2; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; TEXT-INDENT: 0px; LETTER-SPACING:=
 normal; FONT: medium 'Times New Roman'; WHITE-SPACE: normal; ORPHANS: 2; C=
OLOR: rgb(0,0,0); WORD-SPACING: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webki=
t-text-stroke-width: 0px">
  <P><STRONG>These signals find the way</STRONG></P>
  <P>When you dial a telephone number, high-speed switching mechanisms sele=
ct=20
  your party and connect you. Through a new development of Bell Telephone=
=20
  Laboratories, similar mechanisms are doing the same kind of job in privat=
e=20

  wire teletypewriter systems which America=E2=80=99s great businesses leas=
e from the=20
  telephone company.</P>
  <P><BR>Company X, for example, operates an air transportation business wi=
th=20
  scores of offices all over the country. At one of these offices, a=20
  teletypewriter operator wishes to send a message, let us say, to Kansas C=
ity.=20
  Ahead of the message, she types the code letters =E2=80=9CKC=E2=80=9D. Th=
e letters become=20
  electric signals which guide the message to its destination.</P>
  <P><BR>Any or all stations in a network, or any combination of stations, =
can=20
  be selected. Switching centers may handle 50 or more messages a minute . =
. .=20
  some users send 30,000 messages a day. Delivery time is a few minutes.</P=
>
  <P><BR>Defense manufacturers, automobile makers, airlines and many other=
=20
  American businesses are benefiting by the speed and accuracy of the new=
=20
  equipment - another example of how techniques developed by the Laboratori=
es=20
  for telephone use contribute to other Bell System services as well.</P>
  <P><BR>BELL TELEPHONE LABORATORIES<BR>Improving telephone service for Ame=
rica=20
  provides careers for creative men in scientific and technical=20
fields.</P></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>In a message dated 2/17/2013 7:26:32 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,=20
w8roi at wowway.com writes:</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px">=
<FONT=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" color=3D#000000 size=3D2 face=3DA=
rial>
  <DIV><B>Re: Teletypes in Police Stations</B></DIV>
  <DIV><B><BR></B></DIV>
  <DIV><B>Our Township PD had a Model 28ASR in service to be able to commun=
icate=20
  with the State Police</B></DIV>
  <DIV><B>Headquarters in Lansing Michigan, and to the Secretary of State o=
f=20
  Michigan to be able to </B></DIV>
  <DIV><B>'run auto plates' to check for stolen vehicles, outstanding ticke=
ts,=20
  warrants, etc. I was in</B></DIV>
  <DIV><B>the station one day, delivering some fruit for our Band Boosters,=
 and=20
  struck up a conversation</B></DIV>
  <DIV><B>with the guy on duty. At that time, they had mostly officers as=
=20
  dispatchers. He was a friendly</B></DIV>
  <DIV><B>sort and we chatted for a while.</B></DIV>
  <DIV><B><BR></B></DIV>
  <DIV><B>He was surprised when I told him that I had a Teletype machine at=
=20
  home! And, that I used it!</B></DIV>
  <DIV><B>I noted that the machine there would come to life from time to ti=
me,=20
  but not print anything. </B></DIV>
  <DIV><B>Then I remembered 'Print Suppression', and Selective calling, etc=
.=20
  This machine was on one large</B></DIV>
  <DIV><B>'data loop' including Police stations all over our county, but no=
t=20
  necessarily all of them. Mostly</B></DIV>
  <DIV><B>the larger communities.</B></DIV>
  <DIV><B><BR></B></DIV>
  <DIV><B>I asked him if they would have any interest in knowing what the=
=20
  machine was suppressing? In many</B></DIV>
  <DIV><B>instances, a call would go to one community asking for something,=
 and=20
  if/when the requester got a</B></DIV>
  <DIV><B>'negative', the query would go to another community, etc. I tried=
 to=20
  describe the HAL RVD loop to</B></DIV>
  <DIV><B>Video system, and the later, Leland Associates device which did t=
he=20
  same thing with different </B></DIV>
  <DIV><B>results showing on the screen. </B></DIV>
  <DIV><B><BR></B></DIV>
  <DIV><B>The two-way radio shop I moonlighted in had, for some reason, one=
 of=20
  the Hal RVD units. I told our</B></DIV>
  <DIV><B>boss about the conversation I had with this officer and he had th=
e=20
  idea of attaching the HAL RVD to</B></DIV>
  <DIV><B>a Teletype in THAT community. He went over and, working with an=
=20
  officer who was in charge of all</B></DIV>
  <DIV><B>of the communications for that department, they got the HAL RVD h=
ooked=20
  up and connected to a video</B></DIV>
  <DIV><B>monitor. Once the HAL unit was turned on, the screen was showing=
=20
  everything going on when the 'info</B></DIV>
  <DIV><B>loop' had any activity. They saw all sorts of activity directed t=
o and=20
  from other communities and</B></DIV>
  <DIV><B>in a few cases, were able to offer assistance in advance of being=
=20
  asked for it! This made a few of</B></DIV>
  <DIV><B>the other community dispatchers a little curious. HOW DID THEY KN=
OW?=20
  Most of the dispatchers had</B></DIV>
  <DIV><B>seen their own machines operating without printing, and probably =
asked=20
  a Michigan Bell tech what was</B></DIV>
  <DIV><B>going on, etc. The Techs probably knew how to temporarily disable=
 the=20
  Print Suppression Solenoid</B></DIV>
  <DIV><B>to make the machine respond to everything. Hopefully, they did no=
t=20
  share this info or there would</B></DIV>
  <DIV><B>have </B><B>been a run on Teletype paper! </B></DIV>
  <DIV><B><BR></B></DIV>
  <DIV><B>I think that Print Suppression requires the "ZERO BAR" and that n=
ot=20
  all 28 printers have this bar. It</B></DIV>
  <DIV><B>is also required for some other operations. Maybe Auto CR/LF and=
=20
  Non-Overline as well.</B></DIV>
  <DIV><B><BR></B></DIV>
  <DIV><B>Anyway, the local Chief was not impressed by the 'eavesdropping' =
and=20
  said that their budget would not</B></DIV>
  <DIV><B>allow them to purchase the equipment, anyway. At that time, the H=
AL=20
  RVD was selling for around $495,</B></DIV>
  <DIV><B>and a decent bandwidth video monitor was several hundred dollars =
more.=20
  So, that was a short-lived</B></DIV>
  <DIV><B>operation.</B></DIV>
  <DIV><B><BR></B></DIV>
  <DIV><B>Not long after that, Michigan communities made the move to Model =
35=20
  machines, and were ultimately</B></DIV>
  <DIV><B>connected to the LEIN System, or "Law Enforcement Information=20
  Network". No telling what became of those</B></DIV>
  <DIV><B>old Model 28s. I would guess that they belonged to Michigan Bell,=
 and=20
  were being leased by the various</B></DIV>
  <DIV><B>Police departments. But, I can dream, can't I?</B></DIV>
  <DIV><B><BR></B></DIV>
  <DIV><B>- - - -</B></DIV>
  <DIV><B><BR></B></DIV>
  <DIV><B>Today almost all Police Departments have high speed, high quality=
=20
  computers and high speed lines to a number</B></DIV>
  <DIV><B>of other 'data sources and destinations', and short of having som=
e=20
  kind of 'hacker' on staff, they would</B></DIV>
  <DIV><B>probably not be able to see what is happening in other communitie=
s as=20
  described above.</B></DIV>
  <DIV><B><BR></B></DIV>
  <DIV><B>73,</B></DIV>
  <DIV><B><BR></B></DIV>
  <DIV><B>Ralph - W8ROI</B></DIV>
  <DIV><B><BR></B></DIV>
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