[GreenKeys] ASR Motors, etc

Don Robert House packard42 at gmail.com
Mon Feb 4 23:22:17 EST 2013


Ralph,

Not sure how bold type came through the Greenkeys reflector.

The Bell System coding on the motors make it easy to determine which  
you are looking at without
having to look up the Teletype coding.  A 28A motor is for a 28 or 35  
KSR or RO.  The 28C motor
is for a M28 or 35 ASR.  I have forgotten if the 28A motor was also  
used in the Model 37.

As far as dome-mounted reperforators are concerned.  Most are the  
standard typing reperforators
and many have gear shifts.  Only specially made machines used the LARP  
multi-magnet reperforators.

Gear shifts make changing speeds easy, but need routine greasing...  
especially the steel versions.

Don K9TTY


On 4 Feb 2013, at 1:41 AM, Ralph Irish wrote:

Dave Burns & Group

The 28ASRs typically have a 1/12 HP, 3600 RPM synchronous motor.   
28KSRs and free standing TDs
and other items may have 1/20 HP, 3600 RPM motors.  Physically, they  
are the same.  I was told
that the major difference is in the gauge of the wire used in the  
windings and the UFD rating
of the Start capacitor.  Amperage will also differ to produce the  
different horsepowers.  Using
a common 'motor frame and case' cut down on parts inventory and motors  
could be made to the
needs of the sales of Model 28 equipment.

Essentially, the motors, 1/12 HP and 1/20 HP run at the same speed.   
To get different operating
speeds, different gear sets are used.

I have an ASR that has a 3 speed gearshift that eliminates the need  
for gear changing if/when
different operational speed is needed.  IN THIS CASE, I DON'T KNOW  
WHAT GEAR SET IS USED.
The gearshift changes the speed of everything:  TD, printer and reperf.

I know that George, W7TTY has a lot of experience with Teletypes in a  
variety of situations,
but I'm puzzled at the idea that the ASR in question will only run at  
one speed, safely.  A
set of gears will affect the running RPM of all components in the  
machine, with the possible
exception of the 'dome mount' reperf.  I believe that it has its own  
motor, but I am not
certain of this.  I have only seen photos of these machines.

As for LARP and other types of reperfs, I am not going to even offer a  
guess as to whether
the LARP is the only one in use in 'dome mounts'.

The limited Delta Airline ASRs from the mid to late 1960s had an 8  
level LARP as  THE perf
mechanism, next to the printer.  Five of the levels were standard  
Baudot/Murray coded, and
the other three were 'control' functions for the pull-back TD and  
dialer mechanism.  These
machines did not need to make tape off the signal line.  All tape  
preparation took place
from the operator typing on the keyboard.

Ralph - W8ROI


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