[GreenKeys] baudotrss ability to use Google Voice to receive SMS messages...
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Wed Dec 11 00:21:38 EST 2013
Before reinventing the wheel... are we sure there is not a work a round
for google like the way it worked before!?? Ed#
In a message dated 12/9/2013 2:33:24 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
epvgk at limpoc.com writes:
On Mon, Dec 09, 2013 at 02:42:36PM -0600, Chris Elmquist wrote:
> Probably not the lowest cost solution but you could put a cellmodem in
> the design and then send the text messages directly to it from any phone.
>
> This would of course require putting the modem on the cell network with
> an authorized SIM or ESN but this might be a good candidate for pre-paid
> plans that are pretty cheap.
It's possible to buy bare cell modems and dev boards to interface to their
usually obscure and microscopic connectors, but they're annoyingly
expensive.
I have some C code I wrote to do this for ARM (bare, without operating
system)
connected to a crappy Telit GSM modem. It works fine, but could probably
be refined quite a bit. I'm happy to provide it though it would require
modification for other brands/models of cell modem, I'm sure. I used this
for SMS to/from teletype loop for a while before switching to HeavyMetal.
Currently I have Google Voice forward SMS messages to an email address and
a linux box collects the email and parses/formats it for the teletype and
hands it off to the loop via HeavyMetal. I hope that will continue to work.
eric
>
> With this approach, there are no middle-man gateways or other latencies
> other than the SMS traversing the cell networks as it would for any
> phone to phone SMS traffic.
>
> In my work, I do a lot of stuff with sending telemetry over SMS (and data
> connections) using embedded cell modems.
>
> As just one example of many available,
>
> https://www.sparkfun.com/products/10138
>
> Chris N0JCF
>
> On Monday (12/09/2013 at 01:44PM -0300), Javier Albinarrate wrote:
> > Hi Gil,
> >
> > In principle yes, that's the idea, whatever the script is it must be
> > prepared to receive all parameters by GET (not by POST)
> >
> > You can setup a rule to forward a message to a URL, and build the
> > URL like this:
> >
> > http://mydomain.com/myscript.php?from=%from%&body=%body% etc etc etc
> > So, whenever you get an SMS, it gets sent to the script. Then that
> > script can do anything with that info.
> >
> > I have a pretty busy week and weekend, but I could put up something
> > the following weekend perhaps.
> >
> > Let me elaborate what I could do.
> >
> > 1- The user has to install the android app, SMS Gateway Ultimate Free
> > 2- You configure no outbound (unless you want to), and configure an
> > inbound rule.
> > 3- The rule could/should have some flag to allow the message to go
> > through, like simply the string TTY in the body
> > 4- The SMS gets forwarded to
http://albinarrate.com/heavymetal/?action=receiveSMS&name=MyStationId&password=MyPass&from=%from%&body=%body%&time=%ti
me%&fallback=MyEmail
> > 5- The forwarder then contacts the ip and port of the HM3 station
> > (HMNet feature of HM3, which is just a simple directory)
> > 6- The forwarder delivers the SMS to HM3 using a guest level command
> > 7- If it cannot connect, it optionally delivers it by email with
> > [SMS] preffix
> >
> > The infrastructure is already there, I would just need to add the
> > receiveSMS action.
> > For it to work you would only need to have the inbound telnet open,
> > and be registered at the HMNet
> > technically you don't even need HM, as you could have your own
> > station software running, which just needs a listening telnet
> > connection, and be registered at HMNet.
> >
> > The same could be done with pretty much anything.
> >
> > Regards!
> > Javier
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 09/12/2013 12:38, gil at baudot.net wrote:
> > >Hi Javier:
> > >
> > >That is interesting. I grabbed the free version to play with (the
> > >Pro version is only a couple of bucks).
> > >
> > >I don't quite understand how it works though; do you have a
> > >simple example? Can I add a form or other page to a wordpress
> > >site and send the messages there? Or send it to a specific ip
> > >address of a box on the local net?
> > >
> > >thx, gil
> > >
> > >
> > >gil smith, AF7EZ
> > >greenkeys moderator
> > >gil at baudot.net <mailto:gil at baudot.net>
> > >
> > >
> > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] baudotrss ability to use Google Voice to
> > > receive SMS messages ends May 15, 2014.
> > > From: Javier Albinarrate <javier at albinarrate.com
> > > <mailto:javier at albinarrate.com>>
> > > Date: Mon, December 09, 2013 7:49 am
> > > To: greenkeys at mailman.qth.net <mailto:greenkeys at mailman.qth.net>
> > >
> > > Hi all
> > >
> > > The solution should be ready made, generic.
> > > Like this for example:
> > >
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.icecoldapps.smsgatewayultimatepro&hl=en
> > >
> > > With it you receive the SMS in your phone, and forward it to a
> > > URL, the URL would be a router script into whatever program (like
> > > Heavymetal for example)
> > > You have many options from there:
> > > 1- The script connects to the loop program over telnet (HM3),
> > > authenticates and dispatches the message directly to the TTY, all
> > > on the fly.
> > > 2- The script saves the message as a txt file with incrementing
> > > numbers, and the loop program simply pools the message. If the
> > > file does not exist (HTTP error 404) simply tries again later. If
> > > the file exists, retrieves the content, increments a counter and
> > > tries again.
> > > 3- You can route to email, and retrieve periodically emails from
> > > the TTY, in fact you could use a "[SMS]" flag at the subject and
> > > only retrieve those emails.
> > > 4- Lots of fancy things can be done on the backend with a DB and
> > > an API
> > >
> > > I am pretty sure the Android Play Store has other options as
well.
> > >
> > > Regards!
> > >
> > > Javier
> > > LU8AJA
> > >
> > > On 09/12/2013 11:09, Paul Heller wrote:
> > >> Hi Gil,
> > >>
> > >> Well, not so great...
> > >>
> > >> I did some investigation last night. iOS apps run in a sandbox
> > >> intended to prevent them from accessing other apps. Apple pushes
> > >> pretty hard to enforce this. Unfortunately the public API in iOS
> > >> does not allow access to SMS messages because that breaks the
> > >> sandbox design. There is probably a private API somewhere that
> > >> gives access to SMS, but if it were found and used then the app
> > >> could be distributed in the app store (Apple checks for these
> > >> kinds of things). Plus the user would be required to "jailbreak"
> > >> their phone. That is a real hack for the phone and every iOS
> > >> update requires you to figure out how to jailbreak it again. I
> > >> doubt this is something people would really want to do (of course
> > >> some hams might enjoy the challenge...).
> > >>
> > >> So the iOS SMS message approach is probably out. We could explore
> > >> the email or RSS route.
> > >>
> > >> Android typically does not have these types of restrictions, so
> > >> the SMS approach might be possible there - I don't really know.
I
> > >> have built a number of iOS apps but have not done any android
> > >> work yet. I am interested to learn android, but I have too many
> > >> other projects (ITTY included!) on my plate ahead of doing that,
> > >> so we best find someone else for any android work.
> > >>
> > >> Looking forward to hear from others...
> > >>
> > >> Paul
> > >> W2TTY
> > >>
> > >> On Dec 9, 2013, at 6:59 AM, Paul Heller <paulsheller at comcast.net
> > >> <mailto:paulsheller at comcast.net>> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Hi Gil,
> > >>>
> > >>> Well, not so great...
> > >>>
> > >>> I did some investigation last night. iOS apps run in a sandbox
> > >>> intended to prevent them from accessing other apps. Apple
pushes
> > >>> pretty hard to enforce this. Unfortunately the public API in iOS
> > >>> does not allow access to SMS messages because that breaks the
> > >>> sandbox design. There is probably a private API somewhere that
> > >>> gives access to SMS, but if it were found and used then the app
> > >>> could be distributed in the app store (Apple checks for these
> > >>> kinds of things). Plus the user would be required to
"jailbreak"
> > >>> their phone. That is a real hack for the phone and every iOS
> > >>> update requires you to figure out how to jailbreak it again. I
> > >>> doubt this is something people would really want to do (of
> > >>> course some hams might enjoy the challenge...).
> > >>>
> > >>> So the iOS SMS message approach is probably out. We could
> > >>> explore the email or RSS route.
> > >>>
> > >>> Android typically does not have these types of restrictions, so
> > >>> the SMS approach might be possible there - I don't really know.
> > >>> I have built a number of iOS apps but have not done any android
> > >>> work yet. I am interested to learn android, but I have too many
> > >>> other projects (ITTY included!) on my plate ahead of doing that,
> > >>> so we best find someone else for any android work.
> > >>>
> > >>> Looking forward to hear from others...
> > >>>
> > >>> Paul
> > >>> W2TTY
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On Dec 8, 2013, at 6:57 PM, gil at baudot.net
> > >>> <mailto:gil at baudot.net> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Hey Paul:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> That would be great!
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I think the first part of the puzzle would be to intercept an
> > >>>> sms text that is coming from one or more known phone numbers
> > >>>> (that could be configured in settings), and an option to allow
> > >>>> all or no numbers through. Another possibility would be to
poll
> > >>>> an email account for received messages as well, but I don't
> > >>>> know how much work that would be.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> The second part of the project would be to identify an
external
> > >>>> wifi gizmo (or possibly bluetooth, but wifi would have better
> > >>>> range and probably be cheaper hardware), to which to send the
> > >>>> message. Either a simple discovery to find find the
> > >>>> ip-addr/port number, or a simple programmable static-ip, could
> > >>>> be used. Then a tcp/ip socket could be opened, the message
> > >>>> sent, and the socket closed. A udp datagram could be used as
> > >>>> well, but would not have the error checking and delivery
guarantee.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> There could be multiple wifi gizmos available, which could
> > >>>> identify themselves during discovery. Actually, you would only
> > >>>> need wifi to the house router, and hard-wired ethernet units on
> > >>>> the local net could all be found.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> To keep it as simple as possible, you could broadcast the
> > >>>> messages to all found ethenet devices, and let them sort it
out
> > >>>> -- a simple message could be printed by all, or an optional bit
> > >>>> of addressing could be added to the first-line of the message.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Just some first ramblings -- I'm sure John has some ideas.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> thx, gil
> > >>>>
> > >>>> gil smith, AF7EZ
> > >>>> greenkeys moderator
> > >>>> gil at baudot.net <mailto:gil at baudot.net>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> -------- Original Message --------
> > >>>> Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] baudotrss ability to use Google
> > >>>> Voice to
> > >>>> receive SMS messages ends May 15, 2014.
> > >>>> From: Paul Heller <paulsheller at comcast.net
> > >>>> <mailto:paulsheller at comcast.net>>
> > >>>> Date: Sun, December 08, 2013 1:11 pm
> > >>>> To: gil at baudot.net <mailto:gil at baudot.net>
> > >>>> Cc: nagle at animats.com <mailto:nagle at animats.com>,
> > >>>> greenkeys at mailman.qth.net
<mailto:greenkeys at mailman.qth.net>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I could try it for iOS...
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Paul
> > >>>> W2TTY
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Dec 8, 2013, at 9:39 AM, gil at baudot.net
> > >>>> <mailto:gil at baudot.net> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Hey John:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> How would the phone connect to the outside? Wifi? I
> > >>>>> might be interested in making just such a bit of hardware
> > >>>>> (wifi to loop) if some app programmer wants to write an
> > >>>>> app. It would only need to provide ASCII, as I could
> > >>>>> convert to baudot easily for a loop and also provide ASCII
> > >>>>> serial out, to make the box more useful. I could see how
> > >>>>> there could be lots of applications for both baudot and
> > >>>>> ASCII out.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> So yeah, great idea. Any programmers for android and/or
> > >>>>> iOS who could intercept SMS from a (programmable) phone
> > >>>>> number or two, discover the tcpip address/port of a gizmo
> > >>>>> (or three), and send messages? I'd love to do a bit of
> > >>>>> hardware for that.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Gil
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> gil smith, AF7EZ
> > >>>>> greenkeys moderator
> > >>>>> gil at baudot.net <mailto:gil at baudot.net>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> -------- Original Message --------
> > >>>>> Subject: [GreenKeys] baudotrss ability to use Google
> > >>>>> Voice to receive
> > >>>>> SMS messages ends May 15, 2014.
> > >>>>> From: John Nagle <nagle at animats.com
> > >>>>> <mailto:nagle at animats.com>>
> > >>>>> Date: Sat, December 07, 2013 8:50 pm
> > >>>>> To: greenkeys at mailman.qth.net
> > >>>>> <mailto:greenkeys at mailman.qth.net>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Due to a redesign and change in policy regarding
> > >>>>> Google Voice, the
> > >>>>> capability in my "baudotrss" package to receive SMS
> > >>>>> messages via
> > >>>>> Google Voice will stop working on May 15, 2014.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> We still have support for SMS via Twilio, but that
> > >>>>> requires a
> > >>>>> paid Twilio account, and a separate web site to
> > >>>>> receive SMS
> > >>>>> messages.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> The right solution for this would be to implement
SMS to
> > >>>>> Teletype as a smartphone app. Anybody interested in
> > >>>>> doing that?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> John Nagle
> > >>>>>
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