[GreenKeys] GreenKeys Digest, Vol 106, Issue 42
Gerry Block
gblock at sbcglobal.net
Thu Nov 22 10:38:36 EST 2012
John,
I can tell you in solid state the power supplies are generally dictated by the
semiconductor processes used to build the components. As the semiconductor
demensions shrink the dielectrics shrink and the 'withstanding voltage' (to fry
the part) (also called maximum ratings) go down and so lower power supply
voltages are required Just like capacitors. In early days of logic there was
12v and 5v. Then 3.3v. Then 1.8v. Then 1.2v. Now .9v (!). The lower
voltages have the additional benefit of increasing speed (the same volts/uS can
slew through the logic switching level faster), lowering EMI, and the smaller
dies of course mean more $$$/wafer...
For analog circuits higher voltages (+/-15v) used to be pretty standard in
order to drive real-world loads, but has progressively gone down depending on
the required loads. In today's battery operated equipment the voltages are very
low.
In vacuum tubes I believe the filament voltages chosen had something to do
with the battery voltages available. For instance 6.3v is four cells. ALso for
line voltage radios the filmaent strings had to e equal the line voltage so
you had 25v and 50v filments as well as 12v and 6v.
In a modern cell phone the batteries and components are still closely
related. Battery life has gone up as voltage and power consumption has gone
down.
The availability of very efficient switching regulators allows a single
battery to provide many different internal rails.
We make equipment with 28v, 13.v, +/-12v, 3.3v, 1.9v, 1.2v - all in the same
box, which runs from anything between a +6 to +33v source. If you look at each
component and its operating voltage, you can usually deduce what year it was
designed.
Gerry
AD6MC
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From: John Nagle <nagle at animats.com>
To: greenkeys at mailman.qth.net
Sent: Wed, November 21, 2012 1:54:30 PM
Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] GreenKeys Digest, Vol 106, Issue 42
On 11/21/2012 1:28 PM, greenkeys-request at mailman.qth.net wrote:
> I don't know if I ever asked this before. I had a VERY interesting question
> arise (yet again) the other day, and STILL haven't yet found a good
> explanation for MANY of the "made choices" by the engineers yet.
>
> Question - What is the history behind the CHOICES for voltages and
> frequencies - for logic, batteries, tubes (filaments & plates),
> mains V&F, etc?
> If arbitrary, then why do power supplies and load needs often NOT MATCH?
>
> Does anyone have a link to any good "history of power supply voltage
> and frequency choices" stories, that covers these subjects?
> (I'm sure this could fill books, but I'm looking for the Cliff Notes
>versions... :-)
Google.
There's an extensive literature on power line frequencies.
See
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utility_frequency
For an early discussion of the design tradeoffs, see
http://www.nycsubway.org/wiki/The_New_York_Subway:_Chapter_05,_System_of_Electrical_Supply
which discusses the tradeoffs which led to 25HZ distribution for
the New York City subway. The generators were driven by large
reciprocating steam engines at 75 RPM. Power distribution was
three-phase 11KV, converted to 600 VDC for the third rail system
with synchronous converters at substations along the system.
John Nagle
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