[GreenKeys] GreenKeys Digest, Vol 100, Issue 31

Sat May 26 23:06:21 EDT 2012

Hello friends and happy Memorial Day.  I was wondering if anybody has a Teletype ASR or KSR 28 for sale or to get rid of.  I have a friend who is interested.  Thank you all and feel free to e-mail me direct  jonkd4mpw at yahoo.com.

Jonathan

MR. JONATHAN B. O'REAR

AMATEUR/HAM RADIO COMMUNICATIONS OPERATOR / GENERAL CLASS LICENSED
KD4MPW

NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE (HUNTSVILLE, ALABAMA) SEVERE STORM SPOTTER / ADVANCED LEVEL 

E-MAIL: jonkd4mpw at yahoo.com

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  Send GreenKeys mailing list submissions to    greenkeys at mailman.qth.netTo subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit    http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/greenkeysor, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to    greenkeys-request at mailman.qth.netYou can reach the person managing the list at    greenkeys-owner at mailman.qth.netWhen replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specificthan "Re: Contents of GreenKeys digest..."Today's Topics:   1. Veteran's Day (airrelic at juno.com)   2. Re: Questions about some signals on the air. (John Vendely)   3. Memorial Day, Veterans Day and American Flag reference (DR HOUSE)   4. Send a Greeting to Paul Wills for his Birthday on    Monday May      28th (DR HOUSE)   5. [OT] Senior DIscounts [OT] (DR HOUSE)   6. Mark/space reversed ? (Ralph Mowery)   7. Re: Mark/space reversed ? (Jim Haynes)   8. Re: Mark/space reversed ? (DR
 HOUSE)----------------------------------------------------------------------Message: 1Date: Sat, 26 May 2012 17:12:38 GMTFrom: "airrelic at juno.com" <airrelic at juno.com>Subject: [GreenKeys] Veteran's DayTo: greenkeys at mailman.qth.netMessage-ID: <20120526.131238.9633.0 at webmail06.dca.untd.com>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"Thank you, veterans. Kevin/KD8QGX____________________________________________________________53 Year Old Mom Looks 33The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worriedhttp://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4fc10f5d2c4f11c65dfbst02duc-------------- next part --------------An HTML attachment was scrubbed...URL: http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/greenkeys/attachments/20120526/3fabed94/attachment-0001.html ------------------------------Message: 2Date: Sat, 26 May 2012 14:04:38 -0400From: John Vendely <jvendely at cfl.rr.com>Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] Questions about some signals on the air.To:
 greenkeys at mailman.qth.netMessage-ID: <4FC11B36.7080101 at cfl.rr.com>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowedTony,If it's 75 baud, 850 shift, it is likely to be NATO STANAG-4481, which is a 75 baud synchronous teleprinter system, virtually always with online encryption using the KG-84.  When "phasing", the KG-84 sends a sequence of mark/space reversals followed by a preamble which is easily recognizable, then pseudorandom data.If it's 50 baud, 250 shift, it could be the Russian Navy system known colloquially as "36-50".  It's a specialized synchronous teleprinter code that runs 50 baud, 250 shift, and occasionally idles at 36 baud.  It is virtually always encrypted, and frequently goes into "phasing" sequences consisting of 50% duty cycle mark/space reversals.  It's an old mode which is still in widespread use, with many ship and shore stations on many frequencies throughout the HF range.  It is not baudot code, of course, and
 cannot be copied on 50 baud baudot equipment.  I have decoders here which will decode it, and have monitored these stations on various occasions.  I've monitored 36-50 signals periodically over the years, but have heard only a very few cases in which they transmitted in the clear running test tapes, or with operator chat (op-chat) about circuit setup.There's essentially nothing to copy from either of these systems...73,John K9WTOn 5/25/2012 11:30 PM, tony j. podrasky wrote:> Hello Richard et al;>> I haven't listened (right now) but I am assuming it is a signal that:>> o runs 850 Hz shift>> o sounds like about 35-66 WPM - but has a "stutter" where some pulses>     are slightly longer once and a while.>> o just before it drops carrier it goes into a 50% duty-cycle mark-space tone>     toggle for about 5 seconds.>> o then drops the carrier.>> o then comes back on and does it again.>> -->> I have chased this signal, found the identical transmission
 (using dual> receivers) on other frequencies. It is EXTREMELY strong where ever I> find it. And I've examined the signal with all the tricks I have at> my disposal and haven't been able to find rhyme nor reason of how> it works.>> I had researched all over GOOGLE and can not find anyone who can> give me any useful information about it.>> I'd pay up to ten kilobucks to be able to decode it - if the data> was of any interest.>> It REALLY, REALLY bugs me that it is so strong and I can't decode it.>> UE,> W6ESE - tony> NNNN> ZCZC>>> Richard Knoppow wrote:>>       I am using MMTTY and receiving on an R-388.  AT about>> 10.430 I find a very strong RTTY signal which seems to be>> there most of the time. I can't find any combination of>> settings that decodes into anything but nonsense.  What is>> this?  Is it encrypted and if not how do I go about>> receiving it.  I've run into other non-ham signals that are>> similar. Please forgive my ignorance.>>>>>>
 -->> Richard Knoppow------------------------------Message: 3Date: Sat, 26 May 2012 15:55:19 -0500From: DR HOUSE <k9tty at dls.net>Subject: [GreenKeys] Memorial Day, Veterans Day and American Flag    referenceTo: greenkeys at mailman.qth.netMessage-ID: <A8F078D5-8606-46A8-9FF4-1CEF7019FB20 at dls.net>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yesMemorial Day is on May 30 but is commemorated on the last Monday in  May. Memorial Day is a time of remembering those who gave their lives  for our country... yes it is a holiday but "celebrated" is the wrong  word. At Sunrise our flag, Old Glory, or National Ensign is raised to  the top of the flagpole and then lowered slowly to half staff. At Noon  our flag is raised back to the top of the pole.  For those without a  flagpole, Old Glory is simply displayed the entire day. Memorial Day  was formerly called Decoration Day because of the tradition of placing  flags on Veteran's graves, a
 tradition which continues today.Veterans Day is celebrated on November 11 and is a day set aside as a  holiday to honor ALL Veterans who have served our country, be they  dead or alive. Originally the day was Armistice Day to celebrate the  end of World War I.  Although originally scheduled for celebration on  November 11 of every year, starting in 1971 in accordance with the  Uniform Monday Holiday Act, Veterans Day was moved to the fourth  Monday of October. In 1978, it was moved back to its original  celebration on November 11. Because it is a federal holiday, some  American workers and many students have the day off from school or  work for Veterans Day. When Veterans Day falls on a Saturday then the  preceding Friday may be designated as the holiday, whereas if it falls  on a Sunday it is typically observed on the following Monday.God bless America's VeteransP.S.  The word Veteran or Veterans is always capitalized when  referring to a
 Veteran who has served their country honorably.P.P.S.  After 50 years the U.S. Flag Code was amended to allow  Veterans to use the military salute honoring Old Glory, even if not in  uniform and whether or not wearing any cap.------------------------------Message: 4Date: Sat, 26 May 2012 17:45:43 -0500From: DR HOUSE <k9tty at dls.net>Subject: [GreenKeys] Send a Greeting to Paul Wills for his Birthday on    Monday May 28thTo: greenkeys at mailman.qth.netMessage-ID: <6571BC8D-84C1-4A96-84B7-FB02F2F703A5 at dls.net>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yesPaul Wills's <pdwills at cedarknolltelephone.com>  birthday is on Monday  May 28th. Paul will be 57 years old.One very squared away youngster!Don------------------------------Message: 5Date: Sat, 26 May 2012 19:09:03 -0500From: DR HOUSE <k9tty at dls.net>Subject: [GreenKeys] [OT] Senior DIscounts [OT]To: greenkeys at mailman.qth.netMessage-ID:
 <617D2F06-5392-467B-94F3-EF1EAEF3473E at dls.net>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowedSenior DiscountsWendy's recently changed their policy, we had been getting 10percent off our whole order. Sadly Wendys now only offers theirdrinks at a discount, too many of us seniors I guess.Policies change but it never hurts to ask.  I have a ball cap thatreads "Don't forget my Senior Discount!"Some Dunkin Donuts give free coffee to people over 55.If you are in the military, retired military or a Veteran withproper identification you can get a good discount at Home Depot.YOU must ASK for your discount!RESTAURANTS:Applebee's: 15% off with Golden Apple Card (60+)Arby's: 10% off (55+)Ben & Jerry's: 10% off (60+)Bennigan's: discount varies by location (60+)Bob's Big Boy: discount varies by location (60+)Boston Market: 10% off (65+)Burger King: 10% off (60+)Chick-Fil-A: 10% off or free small drink or coffee (55+)Chili's: 10% off (55+)CiCi's Pizza: 10%
 off (60+)Denny's: 10% off, 20% off for AARP members (55+)Dunkin' Donuts: 10% off or free coffee (55+)Einstein's Bagels: 10% off baker's dozen of bagels (60+)Fuddrucker's: 10% off any senior platter (55+)Gatti's Pizza: 10% off (60+)Golden Corral: 10% off (60+)Hardee's: $0.33 beverages everyday (65+)IHOP: 10% off (55+)Jack in the Box: up to 20% off (55+)KFC: free small drink with any meal (55+)Krispy Kreme: 10% off (50+) Cousin Cathy, How's that?Long John Silver's: various discounts at locations (55+)McDonald's: discounts on coffee everyday (55+)Mrs. Fields: 10% off at participating locations (60+)Shoney's: 10% off Sonic: 10% off or free beverage (60+)Steak 'n Shake: 10% off every Monday & Tuesday (50+)Subway: 10% off (60+)Sweet Tomatoes: 10% off (62+)Taco Bell: 5% off; free beverages for seniors (65+)TCBY: 10% off (55+)Tea Room Cafe: 10% off (50+)Village Inn: 10% off (60+)Waffle House: 10% off every Monday (60+)White Castle: 10% off (62+)RETAIL &
 APPAREL:Banana Republic: 10% off (50+)Bealls: 20% off first Tuesday of each month (50+)Belk's: 15% off first Tuesday of every month (55+)Big Lots: 10% offBon-Ton Department Stores: 15% off on senior discount days (55+)C.J. Banks: 10% off every Wednesday (60+)Clarks: 10% off (62+)Dress Barn: 10% off (55+)Goodwill: 10% off one day a week (date varies by location)Hallmark: 10% off one day a week (date varies by location)Kmart: 20% off (50+)Kohl's: 15% off (60+)Modell's Sporting Goods: 10% offRite Aid: 10% off on Tuesdays & 10% off prescriptionsRoss Stores: 10% off every Tuesday (55+)The Salvation Army Thrift Stores: up to 50% off (55+)Stein Mart: 20% off red dot/clearance items first Monday of everymonth (55+)GROCERY:Albertson's: 10% off first Wednesday of each month (55+)American Discount Stores: 10% off every Monday (50+)Compare Foods Supermarket: 10% off every Wednesday (60+)DeCicco Family Markets: 5% off every Wednesday (60+)Food Lion: 6% off every
 Monday (60+)Fry's Supermarket: free Fry's VIP Club Membership & 10% off everyMonday (55+)Great Valu Food Store: 5% off every Tuesday (60+)Gristedes Supermarket: 10% off every Tuesday (60+)Harris Teeter: 5% off every Tuesday (60+)Hy-Vee: 5% off one day a week (date varies by location)Kroger: 10% off (date varies by location)Morton Williams Supermarket: 5% off every Tuesday (60+)The Plant Shed: 10% off every Tuesday (50+)Publix: 5% off every Wednesday (55+)Rogers Marketplace: 5% off every Thursday (60+)Uncle Guiseppe's Marketplace: 5% off (62+)TRAVEL:Airlines:Alaska Airlines: 10% off (65+)American Airlines: various discounts for 65 and up (call beforebooking for discount)Continental Airlines: no initiation fee for Continental PresidentsClub & special fares for select destinationsSouthwest Airlines: various discounts for ages 65 and up (callbefore booking for discount)United Airlines: various discounts for ages 65 and up (call beforebooking for
 discount)U.S. Airways: various discounts for ages 65 and up (call beforebooking for discount)Rail: Amtrak: 15% off (62+)Bus:Greyhound: 5% off (62+)Trailways Transportation System: various discounts for ages 50+Car Rental:Alamo Car Rental: up to 25% off for AARP membersAvis: up to 25% off for AARP members Best Western: 10% off (55+)Budget Rental Cars: 10% off; up to 20% off for AARP members (50+)Dollar Rent-A-Car: 10% off (50+)Enterprise Rent-A-Car: 5% off for AARP membersHertz: up to 25% off for AARP members Holiday Inn: 10%-30% offdepending on location (62+)National Rent-A-Car: up to 30% off for AARP membersOver Night Accommodations:Cambria Suites: 20%-30% off (60+)Clarion Motels: 20%-30% off (60+)Comfort Inn: 20%-30% off (60+)Comfort Suites: 20%-30% off (60+)Econo Lodge: 20%-30% off (60+)Hampton Inns & Suites: 10% off when booked 72 hours in advanceHyatt Hotels: 25%-50% off (62+)InterContinental Hotels Group: various discounts at all hotels
 (65+)Mainstay Suites: 10% off with Mature Traveler's Discount (50+);20%-30% off (60+)Marriott Hotels: 15% off (62+)Motel 6: 10% off (60+)Myrtle Beach Resort: 10% off (55+)Quality Inn: 20%-30% off (60+)Rodeway Inn: 20%-30% off (60+)Sleep Inn: 20%-30% off (60+)ACTIVITIES & ENTERTAINMENT:AMC Theaters: up to 30% off (55+)Bally Total Fitness: up to $100 off memberships (62+)Busch Gardens Tampa, FL: $3 off one-day tickets (50+)Carmike Cinemas: 35% off (65+)Cinemark/Century Theaters: up to 35% offU.S. National Parks: $10 lifetime pass; 50% off additional servicesincluding camping (62+)Regal Cinemas: 30% off Ripley's Believe it or Not: @ off one-dayticket (55+)SeaWorld Orlando, FL: $3 off one-day tickets (50+)CELL PHONE DISCOUNTS:AT&T: Special Senior Nation 200 Plan $29.99/month (65+)Jitterbug: $10/month cell phone service (50+)Verizon Wireless: Verizon Nationwide 65 Plus Plan $29.99/month(65+).MISCELLANEOUS:Great Clips: $3 off hair cuts (60+)Super Cuts: $2 off
 haircuts (60+)NOW, go out there and claim your discounts and rememberYOU must ASK for your discount------------------------------Message: 6Date: Sat, 26 May 2012 22:10:55 -0400From: "Ralph Mowery" <rmowery28146 at earthlink.net>Subject: [GreenKeys] Mark/space reversed ?To: <greenkeys at mailman.qth.net>Message-ID: <D8FF632E6DEE4661BE4E2115BF1E4824 at emachine>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"I know that hams and the comercial rtty have been reversed on the mark/space.  I do not recall if I forgot why or have never seen the reason.  Does anyone know the reason ?DE KU4PT  ----- Original Message -----   From: George B. Hutchison   To: N4TTY at ARRL.NET ; greenkeys at mailman.qth.net   Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 11:00 AM  Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] WLO Frequency?  The WLO center Frequency is 8473.000.  The transmitted frequencies are actually Mark = 8472.915, and Space   = 8473.085.  It is a commercial-grade transmission thus mark and space carrier
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 shift.  Since then there has been some military stuff thatoperated with space high - perhaps as a consequence of some militarygear being upper-sideband-only and keeping the space high conventionfor the audio signal.  And in general companies today use whatevershift polarity they please.In the same vein, the RS-232 modem interface standard calls for negativevoltage for mark and positive for space, while MIL-STD-188 calls forthe reverse.  Except that recent changes to the MIL standard allowfor RS-232 polarity as an option.I think all that proves is that if there are two different ways todo something, both of them will get used.------------------------------Message: 8Date: Sat, 26 May 2012 22:00:43 -0500From: DR HOUSE <k9tty at dls.net>Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] Mark/space reversed ?To: Jim Haynes <jhhaynes at earthlink.net>Cc: greenkeys at mailman.qth.netMessage-ID: <8AD5EC64-6329-4422-8A21-45405EAD1411 at dls.net>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII;
 format=flowedSimilar to WECo and WUTCo.Just have to be different."...I think all that proves is that if there are two different ways todo something, both of them will get used."________________________________________________------------------------------_______________________________________________GreenKeys mailing listGreenKeys at mailman.qth.nethttp://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/greenkeysEnd of GreenKeys Digest, Vol 100, Issue 31******************************************   
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