[GreenKeys] Schematics and parts list

Jim Hammock ki0dn at arrl.net
Thu Aug 23 19:24:01 EDT 2012


A couple of weeks ago someone offered info on a loop supply.  I now need to come up with one.
If that person would be kind enough to help me avoid re-inventing the wheel I would appreciate it.

Jim
KI0DN

"I intend to live forever, or die trying." 
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>   3. Fwd:  Model 20 and 15 in NH (Teletypeparts)
>   4. Lorenz Model 15 (Keith Densmore)
>   5. Re: Lorenz Model 15 (Jeffrey D Angus)
>   6. Re: GreenKeys Digest, Vol 103, Issue 38 - ESSCO Ad (Ralph Irish)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 13:21:04 -0500
> From: David Burns <dvdbrns at rcn.com>
> Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] Model 20 and 15 in NH
> To: greenkeys at mailman.qth.net
> Message-ID: <50367490.5010502 at rcn.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
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> Well!  I'm hard pressed to say whether this is good news or bad, but 
> I'll join in celebrating the "No Road-Time" aspect of it.
> I'd drive an hour for another M15 for backup parts to the one I already 
> have, but I've no room for an SUV-load of them, nor time for a 6 hour 
> round-trip.
> 
> So I'm 'out' as well.
> 
> Fun while it lasted!
> 
> -Dave in Boston
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Just got another QRZ private message from WB1ASL.  Turns out that he
> does NOT have a M20. _It is a M26 that he has_.
> 
>   I was willing to drive 10 hours (round trip) to get a M20, but not for
> a  M26 (already done that) or the rest of his collection.
> 
> So I am no longer interested in any of his machines.  If any of you are,
> looks like it is best to contact him via QRZ private message.
> 
> At least no one drove 3-5 hours to find out that it was a M26 and not a
> M20!!
> 
> Have fun,
> 
> Duncan
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 14:24:53 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Teletypeparts <teletypeparts at aol.com>
> Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] Model 20 and 15 in NH
> To: dvdbrns at rcn.com, greenkeys at mailman.qth.net
> Message-ID: <8CF4F73B90ACCB4-9F0-69F6 at webmail-m028.sysops.aol.com>
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> 
> Well, 
> 
> Its a good thing we hashed this out.  If nothing we should be good communicators!!!!
> 
> Thanks to all.  
> 
> 73,
> 
> Wayne
> KB1FDW
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Burns <dvdbrns at rcn.com>
> To: greenkeys <greenkeys at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Thu, Aug 23, 2012 2:21 pm
> Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] Model 20 and 15 in NH
> 
> 
> Well!  I'm hard pressed to say whether this is good news or bad, but I'll join in celebrating the "No Road-Time" aspect of it.
> I'd drive an hour for another M15 for backup parts to the one I already have, but I've no room for an SUV-load of them, nor time for a 6 hour round-trip.
> 
> So I'm 'out' as well. 
> 
> Fun while it lasted!
> 
> -Dave in Boston
> 
> 
> Just got another QRZ private message from WB1ASL.  Turns out that he 
> oes NOT have a M20. _It is a M26 that he has_.
>  I was willing to drive 10 hours (round trip) to get a M20, but not for 
>  M26 (already done that) or the rest of his collection.
> So I am no longer interested in any of his machines.  If any of you are, 
> ooks like it is best to contact him via QRZ private message.
> At least no one drove 3-5 hours to find out that it was a M26 and not a 
> 20!!
> Have fun,
> Duncan
> 
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> Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 14:32:38 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Teletypeparts <teletypeparts at aol.com>
> Subject: [GreenKeys] Fwd:  Model 20 and 15 in NH
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Teletypeparts <teletypeparts at aol.com>
> To: dvdbrns <dvdbrns at rcn.com>; greenkeys <greenkeys at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Thu, Aug 23, 2012 2:24 pm
> Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] Model 20 and 15 in NH
> 
> 
> Well, 
> 
> Its a good thing we hashed this out.  If nothing we should be good communicators!!!!
> 
> Thanks to all.  
> 
> 73,
> 
> Wayne
> KB1FDW
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Burns <dvdbrns at rcn.com>
> To: greenkeys <greenkeys at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Thu, Aug 23, 2012 2:21 pm
> Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] Model 20 and 15 in NH
> 
> 
> Well!  I'm hard pressed to say whether this is good news or bad, but I'll join in celebrating the "No Road-Time" aspect of it.
> I'd drive an hour for another M15 for backup parts to the one I already have, but I've no room for an SUV-load of them, nor time for a 6 hour round-trip.
> 
> So I'm 'out' as well. 
> 
> Fun while it lasted!
> 
> -Dave in Boston
> 
> 
> Just got another QRZ private message from WB1ASL.  Turns out that he 
> oes NOT have a M20. _It is a M26 that he has_.
>  I was willing to drive 10 hours (round trip) to get a M20, but not for 
>  M26 (already done that) or the rest of his collection.
> So I am no longer interested in any of his machines.  If any of you are, 
> ooks like it is best to contact him via QRZ private message.
> At least no one drove 3-5 hours to find out that it was a M26 and not a 
> 20!!
> Have fun,
> Duncan
> 
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> Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 15:24:54 -0400
> From: "Keith Densmore" <kmd at xplornet.ca>
> Subject: [GreenKeys] Lorenz Model 15
> To: <greenkeys at mailman.qth.net>
> Message-ID: <C1B478A717134EEFB8202ED5ECD5694E at keith3dc125020>
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> Hello All,
> I have located a Lorenz model 15 KSR which I will be picking up in the fall. It comes with a spare printer mechanism so I should be good for parts.  But  I am curious, are Teletype model 15 parts inter-changeable? (All, most, some, none?) 
> Inquiring minds want to know,
> 
> 73,
> Keith ve3ts
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> Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 15:32:07 -0500
> From: Jeffrey D Angus <jdangus at att.net>
> Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] Lorenz Model 15
> To: greenkeys at mailman.qth.net
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> On 8/23/2012 2:24 PM, Keith Densmore wrote:
>> I have located a Lorenz model 15 KSR which I will be picking up in the 
>> fall.
> Oooohers, so I won't be the only one with one of those.
> 
> Jeff-1.0
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> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 18:04:23 -0400
> From: Ralph Irish <w8roi at wowway.com>
> Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] GreenKeys Digest, Vol 103, Issue 38 - ESSCO
>    Ad
> To: greenkeys at mailman.qth.net
> Message-ID: <431A8D2B-93AE-47B7-BB08-53A465223302 at wowway.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
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> Re:  Ads for ESSCO RTTY/TU Products
> 
> I looked through my binder of 1967 73 Magazines, and found an ad on page 129.
> It must have been the one that caught my eye since I see some scribbling on
> that page with some prices, and a likely total that I'd pay for the package.
> 
> I won't say that there were no other ads in the other 1967 73 Magazines, since
> I was doing my 'looking' in dim light.  If anyone really wants to know more, I
> will look in the 1968 binder and see what is there.  I would not know how to
> place such a scan onto an internet page, but if anyone else can do it I can do
> the scan and e-mail it to them for placement.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Ralph - W8ROI
> 
> - - - - - - - -
> 
> 
> On Aug 23, 2012, at 1:01 PM, greenkeys-request at mailman.qth.net wrote:
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>>  3. Re: GreenKeys Digest, Vol 103, Issue 37 - ESSCO TUs
>>     (COURYHOUSE at aol.com)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 12:10:13 -0400
>> From: Duncan Brown <duncanancy at earthlink.net>
>> Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] Model 20 and 15 in NH
>> To: greenkeys at mailman.qth.net
>> Message-ID: <503655E5.6000703 at earthlink.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>> 
>> Just got another QRZ private message from WB1ASL.  Turns out that he 
>> does NOT have a M20. _It is a M26 that he has_.
>> 
>> I was willing to drive 10 hours (round trip) to get a M20, but not for 
>> a  M26 (already done that) or the rest of his collection.
>> 
>> So I am no longer interested in any of his machines.  If any of you are, 
>> looks like it is best to contact him via QRZ private message.
>> 
>> At least no one drove 3-5 hours to find out that it was a M26 and not a 
>> M20!!
>> 
>> Have fun,
>> 
>> Duncan
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 12:34:22 -0400
>> From: Ralph Irish <w8roi at wowway.com>
>> Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] GreenKeys Digest, Vol 103, Issue 37 - ESSCO
>>    TUs
>> To: greenkeys at mailman.qth.net
>> Message-ID: <C390BCFE-2005-417F-8A14-4B6F4A510355 at wowway.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>> 
>> Whoa!  Does that name bring back some memories!
>> 
>> I had the complete ESSCO unit.  All kits, some of which were based on the "Transistorized
>> W2JAV TU" in the RTTY Handbook.  ESSCO expanded and had everything else needed, over and
>> above what the Handbook diagrams showed.
>> 
>> I used that package and made a bunch of contacts on 80M AFSK RTTY.  I was using wide
>> shift, with the high tones.  The transmitter was a Drake T4X, that I had modified with
>> the larger 'sweep tubes' that would fit the sockets and had the same pin-out.  I had to
>> leave the RF Cage off, though, since the replacement tubes were almost 3/4" taller.  I
>> also had a 4" muffin fan on top of the transmitter at that corner of the cabinet where
>> the tubes were.  The 'sweep tubes' were capable of working outside of their design
>> parameters, but they could be 'melted' if you were not careful.  I took no chances.
>> 
>> I also had to 'max out' the bias setting because with the bigger tubes, the idle current
>> was up close to the 'max' that the Drake power supply could put out!  Seeing the plate
>> current almost 'hit the peg' made me reach for the power switch real quick!  I turned the
>> bias setting up to about 'half' of the swing of the control and tried again.  Still too
>> much idle current.  I made one more attempt before setting the control to 'max'.
>> 
>> I've long since forgotten the entire list of cards, but there was one with the TU circuitry,
>> an AFSK card, a 'Keyer card' with a transistor on a heat sink, a power supply card, and
>> that's all I can remember.
>> 
>> Virtually everyone told me the same thing:  "You have a good signal, but your Space Tone
>> is quite weak compared to the Mark tone".  Well, the Drake transmitter was not designed to
>> pass audio much above 2200 Hz, so that is not surprising.  I still made a lot of contacts.
>> 
>> One day, I was home alone and tuning around on 20M  I saw a signal, and could recognize
>> the "CQ" so I tuned it in and it was from Australia!  Solid copy!  I got the transmitter
>> all set and called him.  Bingo!  He came right back.  I was so thrilled, and had no one to
>> share this with.  I saw a couple of neighborhood kids in the empty lot next door and
>> hollered out the window for them to come to the house.  I showed them the Model 19 printing
>> something from the VK station, and told them what it was.  They were absolutely un-impressed!
>> 
>> They wandered off and I finished the QSO with him, sort of in a funk, because the fact that
>> I was communicating with Australia meant nothing to these two (8-9 year old?) girls.  
>> 
>> - - - -
>> 
>> I later discovered that ESSCO made a narrow shift TU board and AFSK unit, but I was on a
>> limited budget and didn't want to press my luck with the XYL, asking for another $50 or so
>> to have narrow shift available.
>> 
>> There was a year when there was a Michigan Week Certificate issued by the State of Michigan
>> to ham operators who made 10 or 15 QSOs with stations outside of Michigan, promoting Michigan.
>> I made it a point that year to get my entire list of QSOs on RTTY.  I had to beg for the QSL
>> cards from a few guys who were sort of 'ho-hum' on certificates.  I did eventually get them all
>> and made my application.  I got the certificate a few months later, and was quite proud of it.
>> It made no mention of Mode of Operation, so it was just something that I knew and was proud of.
>> 
>> Other than the odd shape of the ESSCO cabinet, I don't remember much more.  I don't remember if
>> I sold the TU package or swapped it or what.  
>> 
>> Thanks for 'listening'.
>> 
>> 73,
>> 
>> Ralph - W8ROI
>> 
>> - - - - - - - -
>> 
>> 
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>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 23:47:30 -0400 (EDT)
>>> From: COURYHOUSE at aol.com
>>> Subject: [GreenKeys] In times of old did any one buy any gear from
>>>    ESSCO    Communications Inc?
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 13:01:21 -0400 (EDT)
>> From: COURYHOUSE at aol.com
>> Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] GreenKeys Digest, Vol 103, Issue 37 - ESSCO
>>    TUs
>> To: w8roi at wowway.com, greenkeys at mailman.qth.net
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>> 
>> Excellent  Ralph!  what  was  the  date or   aprox  date  you  got the  
>> unit!?
>> 
>> does anyone have any ads or catalogs!?
>> 
>> Ed#  _www.smecc.org_ (http://www.smecc.org)  
>> 
>> In a message dated 8/23/2012 9:34:34 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
>> w8roi at wowway.com writes:
>> 
>> Whoa!  Does that name bring back some  memories!
>> 
>> 
>> I had the complete ESSCO unit.  All  kits, some of which were based on the 
>> "Transistorized
>> W2JAV TU" in the RTTY Handbook.  ESSCO  expanded and had everything else 
>> needed, over and
>> above what the Handbook diagrams  showed.
>> 
>> 
>> I used that package and made a bunch of  contacts on 80M AFSK RTTY.  I was 
>> using wide
>> shift, with the high tones.  The  transmitter was a Drake T4X, that I had 
>> modified with
>> the larger 'sweep tubes' that would fit the  sockets and had the same 
>> pin-out.  I had to
>> leave the RF Cage off, though, since the  replacement tubes were almost 
>> 3/4" taller.  I
>> also had a 4" muffin fan on top of the  transmitter at that corner of the 
>> cabinet where
>> the tubes were.  The 'sweep tubes' were  capable of working outside of 
>> their design
>> parameters, but they could be 'melted' if  you were not careful.  I took no 
>> chances.
>> 
>> 
>> I also had to 'max out' the bias setting  because with the bigger tubes, 
>> the idle current
>> was up close to the 'max' that the Drake  power supply could put out!  
>> Seeing the plate
>> current almost 'hit the peg' made me reach  for the power switch real 
>> quick!  I turned the
>> bias setting up to about 'half' of the swing  of the control and tried 
>> again.  Still too
>> much idle current.  I made one more  attempt before setting the control to 
>> 'max'.
>> 
>> 
>> I've long since forgotten the entire list of  cards, but there was one with 
>> the TU circuitry,
>> an AFSK card, a 'Keyer card' with a  transistor on a heat sink, a power 
>> supply card, and
>> that's all I can remember.
>> 
>> 
>> Virtually everyone told me the same thing:  "You have a good signal, but 
>> your Space Tone
>> is quite weak compared to the Mark tone".  Well, the Drake transmitter was 
>> not designed to
>> pass audio much above 2200 Hz, so that is  not surprising.  I still made a 
>> lot of contacts.
>> 
>> 
>> One day, I was home alone and tuning around  on 20M  I saw a signal, and 
>> could recognize
>> the "CQ" so I tuned it in and it was from  Australia!  Solid copy!  I got 
>> the transmitter
>> all set and called him.  Bingo!  He came right back.  I was so thrilled, 
>> and had no one to
>> share this with.  I saw a couple of  neighborhood kids in the empty lot 
>> next door and
>> hollered out the window for them to come to  the house.  I showed them the 
>> Model 19 printing
>> something from the VK station, and told them  what it was.  They were 
>> absolutely un-impressed!
>> 
>> 
>> They wandered off and I finished the QSO  with him, sort of in a funk, 
>> because the fact that
>> I was communicating with Australia meant  nothing to these two (8-9 year 
>> old?) girls.  
>> 
>> 
>> - - - -
>> 
>> 
>> I later discovered that ESSCO made a narrow  shift TU board and AFSK unit, 
>> but I was on a
>> limited budget and didn't want to press my  luck with the XYL, asking for 
>> another $50 or so
>> to have narrow shift available.
>> 
>> 
>> There was a year when there was a Michigan  Week Certificate issued by the 
>> State of Michigan
>> to ham operators who made 10 or  15 QSOs with stations outside of Michigan, 
>> promoting Michigan.
>> I made it a point  that year to get my entire list of QSOs on RTTY.  I had 
>> to beg for the  QSL
>> cards from a few  guys who were sort of 'ho-hum' on certificates.  I did 
>> eventually get  them all
>> and made my  application.  I got the certificate a few months later, and 
>> was quite  proud of it.
>> It made no mention  of Mode of Operation, so it was just something that I 
>> knew and was proud  of.
>> 
>> 
>> Other than the odd  shape of the ESSCO cabinet, I don't remember much more. 
>> I don't remember  if
>> I sold the TU  package or swapped it or what.  
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks for  'listening'.
>> 
>> 
>> 73,
>> 
>> 
>> Ralph -  W8ROI
>> 
>> 
>> - - - - - - -  -
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Aug 23, 2012, at 12:03 PM, _greenkeys-request at mailman.qth.net_ 
>> (mailto:greenkeys-request at mailman.qth.net)   wrote:
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>> 1. In times of old did any one buy any gear from  ESSCO
>> Communications Inc?  (COURYHOUSE at aol.com)
>> 
>> 
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> 
>> Message:  1
>> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 23:47:30 -0400 (EDT)
>> From:  COURYHOUSE at aol.com
>> Subject: [GreenKeys] In times of old did any one buy  any gear from
>> ESSCO Communications Inc?
>> To:  greenkeys at mailman.qth.net
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>> In times of old  did any one  buy any  gear  from  ESSCO  Communications  
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