[GreenKeys] OT: Microsoft to support Windows XP for an additional year...

Fri Dec 2 18:54:38 EST 2011

Odd that not once in the 1.5TB of files/whatever I have on a C: and an F:
have I ONCE ever seen that. Nor anything that I recall about a Trusted
Installer-but if it went away when I told it to I might not retain memory of
it (unless it was so frequent I thought of it as a PITA.) Not once. Nor
anything called a "Virtual Store". I've been running WIN7-Pro since the day
after it was brought into retail.

Of course... there is this screen below: IF HTML can pass through this
reflector. If not, it shows MY User Account Settings set to Never
Notify-which anyone with Administrator privileges can set. I don't THINK
there's anything else to set. I have had no problems deleting ANY file, or
in telling WIN7-Pro where to save anything; nor have I once run into
addition/deletion/UAC problems in the probably several thousand dental
offices I have worked with who were running WIN7 (ALL the Pro version.)
Vista was bad about doing it, but not WIN7. Hence I'm stumped about why
yours is being so obstinate. It sounds very much what one might see as a
Permissions issue as a NON-Administrative Rights thing, I just don't know. I
DO know that our standard permissions advice for our SW & HW clients (many
of whom use either OUR proprietary database manager or our other one based
on Pervasive SQL) is: full permission, everyone, all the time-at least for
the image storage folder and related SW folder on their Server. 

Fortunately I didn't have to write any of that stuff. I only test it for
clients after their network & SW/HW is installed. Within a non-commercial
usage, local (e.g. home) wireless & wired combined network, NONE of the
problems you mention exist here, or ever have. Nor do they show up on the
thousands of clients I have worked with, testing their initial usage of our
SW/HW; nor even our SW interfaced with the data management systems by 3rd
party vendors. My observations are strictly from experience of my own
locally and at work with users. I didn't write a bit of SW anywhere,
anytime. That doesn't prove others have not had such problems, but you'd
think I would have seen it once, somewhere. 

P.S. MOST of the clients I work with have had their systems & network
installed locally e.g. NOT by our recommended installers. 

Ed Tanton

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-----Original Message-----
From: greenkeys-bounces at mailman.qth.net
[mailto:greenkeys-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Randy and Sherry
Guttery
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 10:32 AM
Cc: Greenkeys at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] OT: Microsoft to support Windows XP for an
additional year...

On 12/2/2011 7:54 AM, Ed Tanton wrote:

> 

> I couldn't disagree with W3NU more. Do not lump WIN7 in with those two 

> predecessors (Vista & Millenium.) It is stable, and simply works 

> better than WIN XP as long as you have enough PC to support it.

> 

I agree with one HUGE exception: Win7 Professional - unless it's ABSOLUTELY
required for "something" avoid it like the plague. Microsoft - in their "our
way or Highway" mode - has this "thing" in Win7Pro called UAC (User Account
Control) that CAN NOT be disabled (even in crappy Vista it could be turned
off). Microsoft "thinks" that in the Pro version - users, programmers nor
anyone but "them" is smart enough to put files where they belong (and leave
files alone they shouldn't mess with). The result is - that if some program,
update, whatever "puts" files on your system that you later need to delete -
often it's a nightmare (you have to wrest "ownership" from "Trusted
Installer" - THEN you can finally delete them). If a program tries to store
something at the drive's root "C:/" Win7Pro "re-directs" it to a directory
called "Virtual Store" - rather than where it should be. 

That causes absolute NIGHT MARES with software that has either serve (like
data bases) or software that needs to interchange data - and is set up to
use root as the location. Home version of Win 7 doesn't do this (thank
Goodness!). This "nonesense" has cost us (and many other

developers) hours of lost time - aggravated customers and such. Another
casualty of Win7 is Active Sync - but that can be gotten around fairly easy
- though certainly not as convenient. Other than that (Win7Pro UAC) - Win7
is MUCH better than it's predecessor.

just my .02

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