[GreenKeys] 'Russian woodpecker' of old...
Randy and Sherry Guttery
comcents at bellsouth.net
Fri Oct 15 02:06:01 EDT 2010
On 10/14/2010 11:42 PM, WA5CAB at cs.com wrote:
> Another thing to keep in mind before going gaa-gaa over
> the numbers quoted is that pulse-echo RADAR is inherently
> low duty cycle.
Yes - and duty cycle determines the ratio of Average Power
to Peak Power... However - RADAR power is conventionally
(usually) quoted as average power. Since (typically) the
storage of a RADAR transmitter's energy is in the modulator
- the power supply is only required to provide power at
something slightly above average power (average plus factor
in an allowance for the efficiency of the modulator / final
stages). More on "the numbers" below... but I'll respond in
turn to other points in the order made:
> You send out a pulse and then you sit and wait a while for
> returns. Other things being equal, the higher the duty
> cycle the shorter the maximum range.
PRR (Pulse Repetition Rate - also known as PRF - Pulse
Repetition Frequency) is the determining factor of the
maximum unambiguous range of a RADAR system... Pulse
Width(t) is the determining factor of the minimum range of a
RADAR system. Peak power is the determining factor of the
maximum range of a RADAR system. Duty Cycle (the ratio of
the two) only speaks to the "Peak to Average" power ratio -
and does not of itself give either factor.
> If returns come back after you start transmitting again,
> you are not going to hear them.
Unless they return after that second "pulse" has stopped -
and the system is again "listening".
> And significant returns from a previous (to the most
> recent) pulse are confusing and difficult to sort out.
This used to be true - however - modern RADAR systems employ
"staggered" PRRs to detect a return that past the
unambiguous range. By staggering the PRR - a target beyond
the unambiguous range "jitters" rather than being steady on
the display. Further - such returns can be processed by
computer and accurately placed at their correct range time
(distance).
> So in the sense of radio transmitters operating
> continuously, your normal assumptions will be off by an
> order of magnitude or two.
If one considers that the power quoted for the Russian
Woodpecker is indeed quoted as Average Power (as noted above
- as is "usual") - then comparisons to continuous wave power
are reasonable. If, however - the power being quoted for
the Woodpecker is indeed Peak Power - then comparison to
continuous carrier would be off by a very large amount (I'll
admit to assuming it to be Average Power).
Also keep in mind - unlike "traditional" microwave RADAR
(i.e. hard pulse "simply" hitting a magnetron) - the
Woodpecker was AM modulated - and quite possibly other forms
of modulation as well. It's been reported by several people
to have detected intelligence via modulated AM in those 40Kc
wide pulses- and some speculate there may have been
additional modes contained as well. High AM modulation
presents it's own "demands" on power supplies...
just my .02
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