[GreenKeys] ticker tape ID continued

[gil at baudot.net]

Hi folks:

I am still trying to find info on the machine that produced the ticker
tape in the following pictures -- the tape pieces are said to have come
from October 1929.  
http://www.baudot.net/gil/Unknown-Ticker-Tape-003.jpg
http://www.baudot.net/gil/Unknown-Ticker-Tape-007.jpg


I have not really looked into tickers much in the past, but from the
responses of some folks on greenkeys, and some digging around, I have
learned a lot more about them.  I did not know the story behind the
crash of 29 and how the tickers could not keep up with the trading
volume.  Interesting little machines.


If the ticker tapes in the pictures are indeed from 1929, it sounds like
they should have come from one of the old spring or motor-driven "glass
dome" tickers, perhaps the universal or self-winding ticker:
http://www.antiquecircus.com/html/tickers.html
http://edison.rutgers.edu/ticker.htm
http://www.lostwackys.com/tickers/self-winding-tickers.htm
http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/western-union-universal-stock-ticker
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=603561061753260739#
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7109822530630001313#


The much faster "Black Box" ticker, developed by Teletype, apparently
didn't see service until at least 1930:
http://www.edisonticker.com/black-box-stock-ticker/
http://www.edisonticker.com/black-box-stock-ticker/guts.htm
http://www.prc68.com/I/WU5A.shtml


I have been surprised that I have not been able to find any detailed
images of ticker tape.  You would think that a lot of it would have
survived.  I have not really found confirmation on tape width either. 
Some mention has been made of 3/4 inch, but I don't know for sure.


Two things bother me about the tapes in the picture:  
1) they are 11/16" wide, which may or may not be correct for the older
glass tickers.
2) the text impression looks very crisp, and makes me wonder if it is
from a later machine. 
But I am just guessing about this.


I am wondering if the text impressions of the older ticker machines
would be denser, as in this clip:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6984170521861020996#


Could the tape in the picture possibly be from a later machine?
Can anyone who has a 5-A or later machine send pics of printed output or
the typewheel?
Can anyone who has an earlier machine send pics of printed output or the
typewheel?
Can anyone confirm tape width on any ticker?  I'm not even certain of
the tape size used in the 5-A.


The scrap of page printer copy could have come from a Model 12 (news
wire service) or from a
"Broad Tape" bulletin printer (financial news wire service).


Broad Tape ticker was a "page printer" that use a 5-inch wide paper
roll.
http://www.lostwackys.com/tickers/dow-jones/


To anyone here who has a broad tape machine, or a model 12, can you send
me any samples of printed output?  I am guessing that that early machine
only had one typeface -- it that true?


thanks for any info you guys might have,


gil



gil smith
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