[GreenKeys] GreenKeys Digest, Vol 83, Issue 39

[Gary Buda]

You have have stumbled upon a secret to allow machine to machine qso's on the 
air...set the AFSK to 850 hz instead of 170!  
Gary 
WA0NDN


On Monday 27 December 2010 05:34:16 pm greenkeys-request at mailman.qth.net 
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>    1. Mr. Don Merz (George B. Hutchison)
>    2. More Data Tek DTS-1 (Dave Hunter)
>    3. ATTN Europeans And Telex Machine Enthusiasts (George B. Hutchison)
>    4. CFH 10.943 Now Dead (Ron Boltz)
>    5. Re: CFH 10.943 Now Dead (John Vendely)
>    6. Re: CFH 10.943 Now Dead (Duncan Brown)
>    7. Atlantic Research Data Tek 9600 Restoration (Steve Ripper)
>    8. Re: data sources for Baudot data (Jim Cook)
>    9. Re: CFH 10.943 Now Dead (John Vendely)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 10:23:45 -0800
> From: "George B. Hutchison" <w7tty at olypen.com>
> Subject: [GreenKeys] Mr. Don Merz
> To: "GreenKeys" <GreenKeys at mailman.qth.net>
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> GreenKeyers - - -
>
> The last time I talked to Don was a couple- three years ago, at least.
>
> He had been an IT person for Gargantuan National Bank and was unfortunately
> one of the point men for the nationwide downsizing/streamlining/RIF efforts
> which have plagued America and been the norm for what seems like the last
> decade.
>
> He has been slowly divesting himself of many of his favorite goodies which
> include his older radio stuff and teletype gear.
>
> When we chatted he was just going into the mobile music/DJ business with
> his son, and felt that the future was pretty bright.
>
> I was also a mobile dj/club jock/karaoke host for sixteen years, so he and
> I had something else in common.
>
> Hopefully he occasionally peeks at the GreenKeys digest and keeps somewhat
> updated on the latest quirks and gizmoes so often seen on GreenKeys.
>
> The phrase "Remembering Don Merz" struck a sad chord with me as it implies
> that he had shuffled off this mortal coil.
>
> Don't Want Dat.
>
> W7TTY
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 14:45:56 -0400
> From: "Dave Hunter" <dhunter at islandregister.com>
> Subject: [GreenKeys] More Data Tek DTS-1
> To: greenkeys at mailman.qth.net
> Message-ID: <4D18A6A4.10085.826D57 at dhunter.islandregister.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>
> Hi Folks:
>
> First of all, I hope that all you had a very Merry
> Christmas...
>
> I finally had a while to play with my newly arrived test
> set. The fist thing I wanted to do was to set it for 20 ma
> loop as per section 5-4 of the manual. It was set
> originally for a 60 ma loop.
>
> I think I have figured out the settings for testing
> teletype machines (ASR-33 and Model 28, etc.) to print out
> the QBF on attached teletype printers.
>
> However, mine came without the normal test cord for
> testing, and only the loopback cord (thankfully I had that
> for setting loop current).
>
> I have ordered a couple of  PJ055 plugs and some large
> alligator clips for connection to the teletype machines.
> Once they come, I will test it using my ASR and KSR
> 33's,and then on my Model 28 ASR.
>
> It is a little daunting because of all the settings, but
> from my past experience seeing Ken use his machine on my 33
> printers, I know it will do a great job.
>
> It arrived in pretty well mint condition,  except for its
> missing test cord - Very pleased with it. Once I get down
> some of the basic settings, it be a great help when testing
> these machines...
>
> Once again, Happy Holiday to all, and thank you all for
> being there! You have all been a great help!
>
> Dave
>
> The Telephone on Prince Edward Island:
> http://www.islandregister.com/phones/phones.html
>
> The Telephone Museum of Prince Edward Island:
> http://www.islandregister.com/phones/museum.html
> Free Admission - Call (902) 651-2762 to arrange a visit!
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 10:51:29 -0800
> From: "George B. Hutchison" <w7tty at olypen.com>
> Subject: [GreenKeys] ATTN Europeans And Telex Machine Enthusiasts
> To: "GreenKeys" <GreenKeys at mailman.qth.net>
> Message-ID: <000d01cba5f7$133b7540$0600a8c0 at rttylaptop>
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>
> European GreenKeyers and Telex Enthusiasts - - -
>
> Greetings and Salutations
>
> That ITTY Channel which has been carrying 100 WPM ITTY traffic has been
> slowed down to 66 WPM!!!
>
> It's carrying the same material as the 60 speed channel, but as an
> experiment towards getting more interrest in ITTY from Europe and the Telex
> Club of The Universe, 66 WPM data is available Just for You!!
>
> Watch Don House Reorganize Washington, DC in gorgeous black and canary.
>
> Join Wayne LeTourneau as he stealthily moves through the snowy woods of
> Minnesota carrying his 12 gauge Mini-Gun and the 1000 round magazine on his
> back, seeking news from the Cutpurses, Ne'er-do-wells, Varlets, Drunks and
> wierdos lurking deep in the hinterlands.
>
> See Tom Tillson Cleverly tweak the ITTY computers from his underground lair
> somewhere in New York State.
>
> See George screw things up because he is half-asleep.
>
> Enjoy the thrill of watching The Cat step on the cabling.  OOPS - Won't
> happen on 66 WPM, It doesn't use an external tone source - sorry...
>
> Tune in TODAY to <65.243.191.51:8030> and type it LIVE on your Creed,
> Lorenz, Siemens, or retired 32 ASR Telex Machine.
>
> Recommended Players are Wiindows Media Player, Real Player, or anything but
> WinAMP.
>
> For some reason WinAMP likes to drop out for no fault that we have been
> able to determine..
>
> W7TTY - ITTY Central - Sequim, WA. USA
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 14:45:39 -0500
> From: "Ron Boltz" <ecom1 at mhsdesign.com>
> Subject: [GreenKeys] CFH 10.943 Now Dead
> To: <greenkeys at mailman.qth.net>
> Message-ID: <301808FFB28D40FB93217DACEFEEE955 at Optiplex170>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"
>
> The Canadian Forces 10.943 RTTY marker went silent over the Christmas
> weekend.  This was the last CFH station transmitting.  It will be greatly
> missed by me as it was always a good demonstration of RTTY to visitors and
> a good way to test the equipment.  The CFH 10.536 WX was better but that
> went silent several months ago.  Now there is nothing reliable I know of
> here in the east.
>
> Ron Boltz
> K3TZJ
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 15:32:51 -0500
> From: John Vendely <jvendely at cfl.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] CFH 10.943 Now Dead
> To: greenkeys at mailman.qth.net
> Message-ID: <4D18F7F3.1080600 at cfl.rr.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> The Dutch navy still has a few frequencies with 75/850 RTTY in use,
> which I heard over the weekend, but they're just channel availability
> broadcasts.  It's better than nothing, though.  Hopefully they didn't
> disappear after the holiday as well.  The Portuguese navy still had
> similar transmissions, though I haven't checked recently.  The German
> weather bureau transmissions are still there on several frequencies 24/7
> at 50 baud, and I occasionally hear Indian navy RTTY broadcasts in the 8
> Mc band, with shifts as high as 1 kHz.  I also occasionally hear some
> French Forces 50 baud 85 shift RTTY, probably special operations, as
> they appear only sporadically.  Virtually all the French Forces point to
> point links using the Siemens ARQ modems (ARQ-E, ARQ-E3, etc.) are now
> extinct. The only one I still hear is the link from La Reunion to Paris,
> both sides of which are copyable here at this moment at 11,421.7 and
> 11,521.7 kc.  This link idles most of the time, though a small but
> consistent amount of traffic does come through.  Of course, this is
> really not "classic" RTTY.
> Suffice to say that HF data transmission has changed radically in the
> last several years.  Maritime stations have gone mostly to proprietary
> versions of Pactor, and the military has moved to the esoteric high
> speed HF waveforms.
>
> It's gotten to the point where we'll have to provide our own RTTY
> traffic if we want something to receive on HF.  For what it's worth,
> every April at the Vietnam Veteran's Reunion in Melbourne, FL, we set up
> a large display of operational military radio gear, including 850 shift
> teletype using two truck-mounted AN/GRC-122 systems.  Regular schedules
> are maintained, and a number of stations around the country participate
> in the RTTY nets.  It's dismaying to see how few ham operators even knew
> how to set their software-based RTTY systems for 850 shift.  Many assume
> that anything other than 170 shift is illegal.  If there's any interest,
> I'll make sure this list is notified the next time we operate...
>
> 73,
>
> John K9WT
>
> On 12/27/2010 2:45 PM, Ron Boltz wrote:
> > The Canadian Forces 10.943 RTTY marker went silent over the Christmas
> > weekend.  This was the last CFH station transmitting.  It will be greatly
> > missed by me as it was always a good demonstration of RTTY to visitors
> > and a good way to test the equipment.  The CFH 10.536 WX was better but
> > that went silent several months ago.  Now there is nothing reliable I
> > know of here in the east.
> >
> > Ron Boltz
> > K3TZJ
> >
> >
> >
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 16:12:21 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
> From: Duncan Brown <duncanancy at earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] CFH 10.943 Now Dead
> To: John Vendely <jvendely at cfl.rr.com>, greenkeys at mailman.qth.net
> Message-ID:
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> John,
>
> Thanks for your report on RTTY signals still on the air. What are the
> frequencies that you are copying??
>
> Please let this list know of your 850hz transmission schedules.  Hope to
> have our AN/GRC-142 running by then.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Duncan Brown, K2OEQ
> USASA  31J
>
> Chief TTY operator & repairman
> AWA Communications Museum
> http://www.antiquewireless.org/
> http://www.antiquewireless.org/museum/museum.htm
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> >From: John Vendely <jvendely at cfl.rr.com>
> >Sent: Dec 27, 2010 3:32 PM
> >To: greenkeys at mailman.qth.net
> >Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] CFH 10.943 Now Dead
> >
> >The Dutch navy still has a few frequencies with 75/850 RTTY in use,
> >which I heard over the weekend, but they're just channel availability
> >broadcasts.  It's better than nothing, though.  Hopefully they didn't
> >disappear after the holiday as well.  The Portuguese navy still had
> >similar transmissions, though I haven't checked recently.  The German
> >weather bureau transmissions are still there on several frequencies 24/7
> >at 50 baud, and I occasionally hear Indian navy RTTY broadcasts in the 8
> >Mc band, with shifts as high as 1 kHz.  I also occasionally hear some
> >French Forces 50 baud 85 shift RTTY, probably special operations, as
> >they appear only sporadically.  Virtually all the French Forces point to
> >point links using the Siemens ARQ modems (ARQ-E, ARQ-E3, etc.) are now
> >extinct. The only one I still hear is the link from La Reunion to Paris,
> >both sides of which are copyable here at this moment at 11,421.7 and
> >11,521.7 kc.  This link idles most of the time, though a small but
> >consistent amount of traffic does come through.  Of course, this is
> >really not "classic" RTTY.
> >Suffice to say that HF data transmission has changed radically in the
> >last several years.  Maritime stations have gone mostly to proprietary
> >versions of Pactor, and the military has moved to the esoteric high
> >speed HF waveforms.
> >
> >It's gotten to the point where we'll have to provide our own RTTY
> >traffic if we want something to receive on HF.  For what it's worth,
> >every April at the Vietnam Veteran's Reunion in Melbourne, FL, we set up
> >a large display of operational military radio gear, including 850 shift
> >teletype using two truck-mounted AN/GRC-122 systems.  Regular schedules
> >are maintained, and a number of stations around the country participate
> >in the RTTY nets.  It's dismaying to see how few ham operators even knew
> >how to set their software-based RTTY systems for 850 shift.  Many assume
> >that anything other than 170 shift is illegal.  If there's any interest,
> >I'll make sure this list is notified the next time we operate...
> >
> >73,
> >
> >John K9WT
> >
> >On 12/27/2010 2:45 PM, Ron Boltz wrote:
> >> The Canadian Forces 10.943 RTTY marker went silent over the Christmas
> >> weekend.  This was the last CFH station transmitting.  It will be
> >> greatly missed by me as it was always a good demonstration of RTTY to
> >> visitors and a good way to test the equipment.  The CFH 10.536 WX was
> >> better but that went silent several months ago.  Now there is nothing
> >> reliable I know of here in the east.
> >>
> >> Ron Boltz
> >> K3TZJ
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 17:27:24 -0500
> From: "Steve Ripper" <steveripper at comcast.net>
> Subject: [GreenKeys] Atlantic Research Data Tek 9600 Restoration
> To: <greenkeys at mailman.qth.net>
> Message-ID: <002101cba615$4928b640$db7a22c0$@net>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> I can't seem to leave any piece of equipment I receive untouched. I
> received my Atlantic Research Data Tek 9600 DTS-1 last week and immediately
> dismantled the entire unit. Good thing too as there were a few strands of
> wire floating around inside just looking for the wrong place to land. Since
> I already had the unit apart I decided it could use a fresh coat of paint.
> I happen to have a case of Tektronix blue in spray cans so I removed all
> the hardware and gave the enclosure a couple of new coats. I then replaced
> the rubber feet which had long ago turned to stone and added additional
> rubber feet to the back so when you set the enclosure down it is not
> resting on the cover hinges. All of the hardware was replaced with
> stainless steel screws and I also replaced the plastic latches with the
> living hinges with new plated steel latches. Cleaned the switches and front
> panel and then reassembled everything. No need to make any electrical
> repairs since everything seems to function as intended.
>
> Photos of the restoration can been seen at the following link:
>
> http://picasaweb.google.com/steve.ripper/AtlanticResearchDataTek9600DTS1?fe
>a t=directlink
>
> Cheers,
> ?
> Steve Ripper
> steveripper at comcast.net
> Mobile: 248-787-0705
>
> l
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 17:24:28 -0600
> From: Jim Cook <james at al7rv.net>
> Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] data sources for Baudot data
> To: greenkeys at mailman.qth.net
> Message-ID: <4D19202C.1010206 at al7rv.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Keyer's,
>
> While not live nor off the air or Baudot!  I think you can use the text
> files and RSS
> feed at http://www.commcenter-8.net with HeavyMetal or other such programs
>   with your machines.
>
> The traffic on the page sent using the familiar java script to simulate
> a 60 wpm
> monitor TTY in a military comm-center.
>
> You don't need to have Java to grab the text file or use the RSS link.
> The text
> file link and RSS links are just below the page printer.
>
> The traffic on the channel is being poke up by few old Mil comm-center
> guys.
>
> For the  most part it is all retransmissions of Project Blue Book, Vietnam
> bulletins and other MIL traffic approved for Internet Release (No Leaky
> Wiki
> here!)..
>
> Again,  I don't  know how useful the feeds may be,  but the channels do
> carry traffic that makes for interesting reading and the messages look
> great
> on yellow  paper!  Commcenter-8 has about 63 minutes of 60 wpm text
> on it now.
>
> 73,
> Jim -- AL7RV
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 18:33:59 -0500
> From: John Vendely <jvendely at cfl.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] CFH 10.943 Now Dead
> To: greenkeys at mailman.qth.net
> Message-ID: <4D192267.4020600 at cfl.rr.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Duncan,
>
> The Indian Navy RTTY signals I referred to were station VTP on 8298 kc,
> audible sporadically here on the Atlantic coast of Florida in the
> mid-morning hours.  Also heard was another Indian navy station sending
> the identifier "RBSL", not sure what that signifies.  It doesn't appear
> to be a callsign.  Both stations send weather reports and 5 letter
> cypher groups.
>
> The following Dutch navy and Portuguese navy RTTY stations are still
> active using 75 baud/850 shift, and are good copy here at this moment:
>
> CTP (Lisbon, Portugal) 12853.5 kc, 8551.5 kc, 6389 kc
> PBB (Dutch Navy, Dan Helder) 8439.15 kc, 6357.75 kc, 4280 kc, 2474 kc
>
> Both are channel availability broadcasts.  Actual traffic is infrequent.
>
> Deutsche Wetterdienst is copyable on 7646 kc,10100.8 kc, 11039 kc, and
> 14673 kc, using 50 baud 400 shift.
>
> I'll have to look through my notes to find the frequencies on which I've
> heard that French Forces 85 shift station.  The call sign was "CALORIE",
> and typically was sending test transmissions with "Brick Geants", the
> French equivalent of "Quick Brown Foxes"
>
> To be sure, there's only a fraction of the unencrypted baudot RTTY there
> was even a few years ago.  However, some can still be found, though it
> takes a little dialing around to find it.  I'm fortunate to be located
> on the Atlantic coast (about 35 m. south of Cape Canaveral), and have a
> 0-30 MHz rotary log periodic and several beverages.  Signals from
> Europe, Africa, and the middle and far east are pretty good here, though
> conditions are generally poor these days.  Folks further inland may not
> hear these signals as well as we can on the coast.  Enjoy these stations
> while they last!
>
> 73,
>
> John K9WT
>
> On 12/27/2010 4:12 PM, Duncan Brown wrote:
> > John,
> >
> > Thanks for your report on RTTY signals still on the air. What are the
> > frequencies that you are copying??
> >
> > Please let this list know of your 850hz transmission schedules.  Hope to
> > have our AN/GRC-142 running by then.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Duncan Brown, K2OEQ
> > USASA  31J
> >
> > Chief TTY operator&  repairman
> > AWA Communications Museum
> > http://www.antiquewireless.org/
> > http://www.antiquewireless.org/museum/museum.htm
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> >
> >> From: John Vendely<jvendely at cfl.rr.com>
> >> Sent: Dec 27, 2010 3:32 PM
> >> To: greenkeys at mailman.qth.net
> >> Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] CFH 10.943 Now Dead
> >>
> >> The Dutch navy still has a few frequencies with 75/850 RTTY in use,
> >> which I heard over the weekend, but they're just channel availability
> >> broadcasts.  It's better than nothing, though.  Hopefully they didn't
> >> disappear after the holiday as well.  The Portuguese navy still had
> >> similar transmissions, though I haven't checked recently.  The German
> >> weather bureau transmissions are still there on several frequencies 24/7
> >> at 50 baud, and I occasionally hear Indian navy RTTY broadcasts in the 8
> >> Mc band, with shifts as high as 1 kHz.  I also occasionally hear some
> >> French Forces 50 baud 85 shift RTTY, probably special operations, as
> >> they appear only sporadically.  Virtually all the French Forces point to
> >> point links using the Siemens ARQ modems (ARQ-E, ARQ-E3, etc.) are now
> >> extinct. The only one I still hear is the link from La Reunion to Paris,
> >> both sides of which are copyable here at this moment at 11,421.7 and
> >> 11,521.7 kc.  This link idles most of the time, though a small but
> >> consistent amount of traffic does come through.  Of course, this is
> >> really not "classic" RTTY.
> >> Suffice to say that HF data transmission has changed radically in the
> >> last several years.  Maritime stations have gone mostly to proprietary
> >> versions of Pactor, and the military has moved to the esoteric high
> >> speed HF waveforms.
> >>
> >> It's gotten to the point where we'll have to provide our own RTTY
> >> traffic if we want something to receive on HF.  For what it's worth,
> >> every April at the Vietnam Veteran's Reunion in Melbourne, FL, we set up
> >> a large display of operational military radio gear, including 850 shift
> >> teletype using two truck-mounted AN/GRC-122 systems.  Regular schedules
> >> are maintained, and a number of stations around the country participate
> >> in the RTTY nets.  It's dismaying to see how few ham operators even knew
> >> how to set their software-based RTTY systems for 850 shift.  Many assume
> >> that anything other than 170 shift is illegal.  If there's any interest,
> >> I'll make sure this list is notified the next time we operate...
> >>
> >> 73,
> >>
> >> John K9WT
> >>
> >> On 12/27/2010 2:45 PM, Ron Boltz wrote:
> >>> The Canadian Forces 10.943 RTTY marker went silent over the Christmas
> >>> weekend.  This was the last CFH station transmitting.  It will be
> >>> greatly missed by me as it was always a good demonstration of RTTY to
> >>> visitors and a good way to test the equipment.  The CFH 10.536 WX was
> >>> better but that went silent several months ago.  Now there is nothing
> >>> reliable I know of here in the east.
> >>>
> >>> Ron Boltz
> >>> K3TZJ
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ______________________________________________________________
>
> ------------------------------
>
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