[GreenKeys] GreenKeys Digest, Vol 75, Issue 42

Fri Apr 30 15:34:29 EDT 2010

Hello friends

I have an OLIVETTI T2CN  tty that I desire to restore and use.
I search the information need to make the electric connection and understand it.
I own the mechanical manual with all exploded parts but I do not found the “service manual”. Can You, on the group, help me to found it so to return the machine into life?

I made some photos and description that are available at the address:

http://digilander.libero.it/McCoy35/olivetti/ttye.html   (note: case sensitive)

With my best regards.

Doriano  IW1PAG

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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 13:29:37 +0100
> From: Jim Backus <j.backus at jita.demon.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] French barn find
> To: Greenkeys email list <greenkeys at mailman.qth.net>
> Message-ID: <4BD97BB1.8020305 at jita.demon.co.uk>
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> Thierry Stora wrote:
> > Hi fellows vintage technologies addicts,
> >
> > being many things but not a novice in restoration and collecting of 
> > electronic and electro-mechanical devices such as boatanchors, test 
> > equipment, pre-eighties computer systems and peripherals, a dozen of 
> > pinball machines, ..., I've had the opportunity to put my hands on an 
> > unknown (by me) teletype / tape reader and puncher set.
> >
> > It's branded by SAGEM, a company that many know today for other activities.
> >
> > I had already seen a "fully electronic" model of Sagem teletype of the 
> > end of the seventies which included a crt display and a printer but 
> > never anything like this before.
> >
> > Some (very poor quality) photos:
> >
> > http://thierry.stora.free.fr/tty
> >
> > Of course I've Googled it, without any sucess.
> >
> > Willing to restore it to working condition to hook it to my Motorola 
> > Exorciser clone of the seventies I would be glad to get as much 
> > technical information on it as possible.
> >
> > Maybe this particular tty says something to someone here, or maybe the 
> > mechanical part is a licensed copy of an American system as this kind of 
> > technology transfer was common in those times.... I sincerely hope so, 
> > as it could be an easy way to have some data about the adjustments / 
> > mechanical settings.
> >
> > So does it looks (at least its mechanical parts) visually familiar to 
> > the experts around?
> >
> > The teletype / keyboard part seems to be a rather ancient design, it's 
> > of the fully E.M. kind. A gearbox located close to the front left of the 
> > machine and driven by a motor located behind the paper tray seems to 
> > power the whole thing.
> >
> > A lot of state display lights/ function keys are visible on the front 
> > panel. They suggest (their naming) that some kind of communication stuff 
> > is embedded in the beast.
> >
> > A quick spin around it shown three large dual-sided printed circuit 
> > boards populated with a mix of standard TTL chips plus apparently some 
> > linear I.Cs. and discrete components stacked in the base of the machine, 
> > under the typing unit.
> >
> > It seems to be in very good condition and absolutely complete (with the 
> > exception of 1 key cap and the usual absence of the drawer collecting 
> > the confetti from the puncher) and untouched, but extremely dirty as all 
> > true barn found items are. It will need a complete strip down to be 
> > cleaned correctly and restored to working condition, which is the golal. 
> > This has been worsened by the removal of the keyboard cover during a 
> > long period (I put it back before to take the photos).
> >
> > If unfortunately I can't get any help / documentation I'll of course 
> > however restore it, but... I'm sure that everybody here understand my 
> > thoughts.
> >
> > Thanks for looking to this, and by advance many thanks for any comment 
> > on this Sagem. I'll not start to work on it quickly as the bench is 
> > already crowded by other works in progress which must be completed 
> > first, especially my beloved RCA AR88. I plan to put some pages online 
> > about the restoration when I'll have started to work on it, a job for 
> > the next winter I think and hope.
> >
> > Hope also that I've not bothered too much people with this tale.
> >
> >
> > Thierry
> >
> > P.S: If you have any curiosity or interest for the steam locomotives 
> > from the old continent you may find some pleasure to visit my website
> >
> > http://www.chapelon.net
> >
> >
> >
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> >   
> Among my teleprinter memorabilia I have a "utilization manual" for a 
> Sagem SPE 5B/GA teleprinter. I think it is older than the one you've 
> found although there is no publication date.
> 
> I also have two different manuals for Olivetti TE 500.
> 
> Jim
> -- 
> Jim Backus, G4PFJ
> 
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> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 16:21:21 +0100
> From: Sam Hallas <s.hallas at ntlworld.com>
> Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] French barn find
> To: Green Keys <greenkeys at mailman.qth.net>
> Message-ID: <4BD9A3F1.1060702 at ntlworld.com>
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> Thierry Stora wrote:
> >  Hi fellows vintage technologies addicts,
> >  I've had the opportunity to put my hands on
> >  an unknown (by me) teletype / tape reader and puncher set.
> >  It's branded by SAGEM, a company that many know today for other
> >  activities.
> etc
> 
> Thierry,
> Thanks for sharing your pictures. Quite a find, but maybe an uphill 
> struggle in restoration.
> 
> I had a similar-looking machine from ITT-Creed. I think it might have 
> been called Model 2600. It was part electronic and part mechanical. Full 
> of custom chips. It worked for a time and was effieicient and quiet. 
> Sadly when it went wrong I couldn't find any diagrams and the custom 
> chips were totally unobtainable. The manufacturers, Creed, had long 
> since disappeared. Most of it went to landfill (before the days of 
> recycling everything) I kept the power supply for a time, but even that 
> went in the end.
> 
> I believe SAGEM also sold printers in Australia. Maybe some of our 'down 
> under' members know about it? Here's one in the Queensland Musuem near 
> Brisbane.
> http://www.telemuseum.org/image/sagem%20TX%2020.jpg
> 
> Cheers,
> Sam
> (formerly G8EXV)
> 
> PS I lked the steam web site. I see RS components still call themselves 
> Radiospares in France.
> 
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