[GreenKeys] black M28ASR ?

Tue Nov 18 13:53:14 EST 2008

AHHH  now I know.  LIONEL colors...  Blue and Orange.  Or possibly a  
frustrated Chicago Bears fan!
Since I have been a life long preservationist my attitude has always  
been to keep things as original as possible.
Being a docent and a curator also keeps me on the straight and narrow.

73,
Don

On 18 Nov 2008, at 8:30 AM, Lee Mushel wrote:

I guess my life is simpler than most because I don't worry about the
"correct" color for a machine!   Back when I got my first machines they
weren't exactly pristine so I felt that painting was a good idea.    
But I
always followed the rule that the right color was what pleased me.    
Over
the years there were several colors including a miserable blue and a  
Ford
gunmetal gray but I finally settled on black.  And I certainly never  
worried
about some little previous scratch showing through.   But the machine  
had to
work!   Today I have standardized on the green that Teletype used for  
it's
flexible windowed manual covers.  You can get that at any TrueValue  
hardware
store.   At the risk of horrifying many, I will admit I chose it  
because I
wanted something to complement my desire to paint the shack walls  
orange.

Oh yes, following the recommendations frequently given in the scanty
literature of the early 70's the original wiring was the first thing  
to go
and the original lamps have been replaced with small fluorescent  
fixtures!
By this time you've guessed I'm not interested in a museum piece---but  
they
have to send and receive!  Visitors to the shack seem to be more  
impressed
if things light up, motors hum and the keyboards have some effect on a
machine across the room!  And not one of those fine old devices has ever
complained of my changes!

73

Lee   K9WRU
----- Original Message -----
From: "david freeman" <_dave.f at mail.com>
To: <gil at baudot.net>; "Jack" <wa2hwj at att.net>
Cc: <greenkeys at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 9:02 PM
Subject: RE: [GreenKeys] black M28ASR ?

> Gil,
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> I'm not sure what picture you are referring to, but I do not have a  
> black
28ASR. I have a smooth black 28KSR cabinet that came from a railroad  
office
in Chicago. I'm not sure which railroad. It's not that you are seeing
because that is on the opposite side of the building. If you are talking
about the 28ASR in the 05NavySide picture, that is actually a high gloss
gunmetal gray metalic, some Toyota color. I got that one from Bob  
Camp. He
got it from someone that had it professionally painted if I remember the
story correctly. It's got a few scratches on it, but still pretty  
nice. I
also have a bright blue 28ASR that Bill Strangfeld gave me. He thought  
it to
be an original color.
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> It's pretty funny how many machines you guys have identified. Rice  
> got 6
or 7 of them right. I should have a contest!
>
> Regards,
> Dave, WW8S
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: gil at baudot.net
> To: Jack
> Cc: "'david freeman'" <_dave.f at mail.com>, greenkeys at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: RE: [GreenKeys] black M28ASR ?
> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 13:31:22 -0700
>
> Hi Jack, and greenkeys:
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> It doesn't look like that black 28ASR is quite wrinkle-finish, as I  
> would
think that it would not have much sheen (but it is far back in the pic).
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> I am wanting to repaint an ASR cabinet, but have not really been  
> excited
by the choices of grays that are off-the-shelf (we had a prior  
discussion on
colors). This ASR looks to have been previously painted with a different
gray than standard, and I want to strip it and give it a new paint job  
(but
I can't afford a custom color at a body shop). It has the same subtle
texture that my 28KSR has -- is that what they call "orange-peel?"
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> Anyway, I never considered black until I saw this one, but I think a  
> nice
satin black would look good on my ASR. Was wrinkle-black the only  
factory
black M28 finish, or was black with that standard-28-texture also  
available?
Barring a proper green-gray, which looks to need a custom mix, I am left
with a lighter navy-looking gray or black, as my Rustoleum off-the-shelf
options.
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> And on a related note: how can I strip the outer coat of
previous-owner-added paint without affecting the underlying original 28
paint? I want to retain the original texture. If I can't strip it off
properly, I suppose I could just give it a good degrease with
laquer-thinner, and a mild roughing with a scratch pad.
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> any comments?
>
> thanks,
>
> gil
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> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: RE: [GreenKeys] black M28ASR ?
> From: "Jack" <wa2hwj at att.net>
> Date: Mon, November 17, 2008 11:11 am
> To: <gil at baudot.net>, "'david freeman'" <_dave.f at mail.com>
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> I noticed the black 28ASR, too. I just recently acquired an
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> original black wrinkle 28KSR with a Mark I keyboard and printer.
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> The cabinet paint code is on the inside, verifying its authenticity.
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> This cabinet is the older type with the open shelf in the bottom,
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> like a Model 15 table.
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> From: greenkeys-bounces at mailman.qth.net
[mailto:greenkeys-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of gil at baudot.net
> Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 12:09 PM
> To: david freeman
> Cc: Green Keys
> Subject: [GreenKeys] black M28ASR ?
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> Hey Dave:
>
> I see what looks like a black M28ASR in the background of one of your
pics -- was black an original color, or has that one been painted? Looks
pretty good in black.
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> gil
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> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [GreenKeys] TTY Pics - M15 Cabinet & 35ASR
> From: "david freeman" <_dave.f at mail.com>
> Date: Sun, November 16, 2008 8:45 pm
> To: "Green Keys" <greenkeys at mailman.qth.net>
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> In response to requests for pictures of the two M15 "mailbox"  
> cabinets I
offer the following. Please let me apologize for the rough pictures, I  
just
scooted stuff around just enough to get a shot. You can see that the WU
cabinet is considerably larger than the Navy cabinet.
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> http://www.ww8s.zoomshare.com/files/TeletypePics/01_NavyFront.JPG
> http://www.ww8s.zoomshare.com/files/TeletypePics/02_WUFront.JPG
> http://www.ww8s.zoomshare.com/files/TeletypePics/03_NavyOpenFront.JPG
> http://www.ww8s.zoomshare.com/files/TeletypePics/04_WUOpenFront.JPG
> http://www.ww8s.zoomshare.com/files/TeletypePics/05_NavySide.JPG
> http://www.ww8s.zoomshare.com/files/TeletypePics/06_WUSide.JPG
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> I also had a number of requests for pictures of the 35ASR, Same  
> caveat for
these...
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> http://www.ww8s.zoomshare.com/files/TeletypePics/11_35ASR-Front.JPG
> http://www.ww8s.zoomshare.com/files/TeletypePics/12_35ASR-Back.JPG
> http://www.ww8s.zoomshare.com/files/TeletypePics/13_35ASR-CloseFront.JPG
> http://www.ww8s.zoomshare.com/files/TeletypePics/14_35ASR- 
> Reperf_TD.JPG
> http://www.ww8s.zoomshare.com/files/TeletypePics/15_35ASR-Keyboard.JPG
> http://www.ww8s.zoomshare.com/files/TeletypePics/16_35ASR-InsideLeft.JPG
> http://www.ww8s.zoomshare.com/files/TeletypePics/17_35ASR-InsideRight.JPG
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http://www.ww8s.zoomshare.com/files/TeletypePics/18_35ASR-CoverOpenLeft.JPG
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http://www.ww8s.zoomshare.com/files/TeletypePics/19_35ASR-CoverOpenRight.JPG
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> W6ESE/Tony, still thinking about shipping this to California???
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> Regards,
> Dave, WW8S
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