[GreenKeys] RE: GreenKeys Digest, Vol 59, Issue 14
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1. Reinker outside package information... (Til128 at aol.com)
2. Re: Re: GreenKeys Digest, Vol 59, Issue 11 (Lee Mushel)
3. Burroughs Parts Machine (Steve Hilsz)
4. Model 19 (Larry Tighe)
5. RE: Burroughs Parts Machine (Duncan M. Brown)
6. RE: Burroughs Parts Machine (Duncan M. Brown)
7. RE: tt-76 civilian (Duncan M. Brown)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 08:57:41 EST
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Subject: [GreenKeys] Reinker outside package information...
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Hi all:
And the other MK# is as follows: (For Klienschmidt)
MK- 2Z5727383
FSN: 7510-292-9047
73,
DE: Tom Tillson
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 08:27:25 -0600
From: "Lee Mushel" <herbert3 at centurytel.net>
Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] Re: GreenKeys Digest, Vol 59, Issue 11
To: "Gary Buda" <gbuda at cyberwright.net>, <greenkeys at mailman.qth.net>
Cc: greenkeys-request at mailman.qth.net
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Gary,
I knew I couldn't be alone in the world! Like you, I haven't the faintest
idea why anyone would want to interfere with the sound of an operating
teletype machine! I bet you don't have any credit card bills and don't
make any payments, either.
73
Lee K9WRU
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Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 8:59 PM
Subject: [GreenKeys] Re: GreenKeys Digest, Vol 59, Issue 11
> Sound deadening, don't do what I did. I coated the inside of my 28KSRs
with
> an adhesive backed foam which I bought from some surplus store in
Minneapolis.
> Over the years the foam started to age and crumble. It made a huge mess
> inside the machines. It was not a pretty long-term solution but it did
work
> well when the foam was new. I no longer have any sound deadening
material
> inside my machines and just enjoy the noise!
> Gary WA0NDN
> NNNN
>
> On Monday 08 December 2008 04:58:58 pm greenkeys-request at mailman.qth.net
> wrote:
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> > Today's Topics:
> >
> > 1. sound deadening (kh-phillips at 9-5usa.org)
> > 2. Re: [RTTY] "Straight key night" for RTTY (Roger Cooke)
> > 3. Re: [RTTY] [GreenKeys] RE: "Straight key night" for RTTY
> > (Phil Sussman)
> > 4. Re: sound deadening (Randy or Sherry Guttery)
> > 5. RE: sound deadening (boatanchor at martasystems.com)
> > 6. TT-76 Part needed (n1jzv at midmaine.com)
> > 7. Looking for a ASR33 chad box (Alf Fisher)
> > 8. the person who had the M28 tabletop unit, I have a buyer for
> > it ... (John Hensley)
> > 9. Model 28 has a home now (WB6BLV (DM06))
> > 10. Re: TT-76 Part needed (Larry Tighe)
> > 11. Sound proofing (Jeffrey Angus)
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 07:00:47 -0600 (CST)
> > From: kh-phillips at 9-5usa.org
> > Subject: [GreenKeys] sound deadening
> > To: GreenKeys at mailman.qth.net
> > Message-ID: <5268.67.142.130.37.1228741247.squirrel at 9-5usa.org>
> > Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1
> >
> > Is there a current source for the sound deadening material used in, for
> > example, a 28ASR . . . or some good substitute? I recently acquired
some
> > 28s (RO, KSR, ASR) which seem to have been serving as rodent resorts for
> > quite some time so if the sound deadening material had not already
> > deteriorated it had been providing generations of rodents with warm
beds.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Kevin
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2008 18:43:02 +0000
> > From: Roger Cooke <g3ldi at g3ldi.co.uk>
> > Subject: [GreenKeys] Re: [RTTY] "Straight key night" for RTTY
> > To: wa3frp at aol.com
> > Cc: greenkeys at mailman.qth.net, rtty at contesting.com
> > Message-ID: <493C1936.9050507 at g3ldi.co.uk>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> >
> > I got rid of my model 19 set some years ago. I would at that time have
> > given my right arm for a 28ASR. That was the
> > holy grail in the UK. I don't think anybody ever did get one.
> >
> > No, you will have to put up with me on the "grey keys" now! However,
> > I can type lots more than 599 73!
> >
> > I was taught by the maestro - G3CQE - the first G on HF RTTY.
> >
> > 73 de Roger, G3LDI
> >
> > wa3frp at aol.com wrote:
> > > Yes - this is a great idea and I am very interested in
participating.??
> > > I've copied the "Greenkeys" list in the hope that others on that?list
are
> > > also interested in participating in a Straight key night that would be
> > > open to all, including those who are still capable of using "Heavy
Metal"
> > > RTTY.
> > >
> > > Thanks and 73
> > > Russ WA3FRP
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Message: 1
> > > Date: Sun,? 7 Dec 2008 07:42:03 -0500
> > > From: Phil Sussman <psussman at pactor.com>
> > > Subject: [RTTY] "Straight key night" for RTTY
> > > To: RTTY Reflector <rtty at contesting.com>
> > > Cc: Kok Chen <chen at mac.com>
> > > Message-ID: <1228653723.493bc49bc6f7f at webmail.pactor.com>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> > >
> > > Hello all..
> > >
> > > Chen sent me an email containing an idea that I believe has merit.
<See
> > > below>
> > >
> > > I am willing to work on this project.
> > >
> > > Does anyone have any hints about this? Are there potential conflicts?
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > 73 de Phil - N8PS
> > >
> > > -------
> > >
> > > Quoting Kok Chen <chen at mac.com>:
> > >> We need a "straight key night" for RTTY.? No macros, no exchanges,?
> > >> just get on to type a hello or two -- perhaps you can organize one?
> > >> like that to coincide with SKN?? The Swedish Happy New Year event?
> > >> still requires you to send an exchange than chat free-hand.
> > >>
> > >> Vy 73
> > >> Chen
> > >
> > > ?
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > RTTY mailing list
> > > RTTY at contesting.com
> > > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/rtty
> >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > >
> > > No virus found in this incoming message.
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> > > 12/6/2008 4:55 PM
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 08:00:26 -0500
> > From: Phil Sussman <psussman at pactor.com>
> > Subject: Re: [RTTY] [GreenKeys] RE: "Straight key night" for RTTY
> > To: Jim Haynes <jhhaynes at earthlink.net>
> > Cc: wa3frp at aol.com, greenkeys at mailman.qth.net, Roy Morgan
> > <k1lky at earthlink.net>, rtty at contesting.com
> > Message-ID: <1228741226.493d1a6a37d39 at webmail.pactor.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >
> > If the primary focus is to promote QSOs on RTTY then I believe that the
> > solution is simplicity itself.
> >
> > Get on the air, just to say howdy, or rag-chew, or QSO with whatever
> > pleases you. If it's 850z shift -or- older mechanical machines -or- that
> > old Commodore VIC-20 with a Hamsoft cartridge -or- whatever. Forget
> > formality or format. Yep, remember those old RTTY pioneers and
experience
> > your own 'pioneering'.
> >
> > If you've wanted to play with RTTY for the first time or the thousandth
> > time, here is an opportunity to have fun and gain some enjoyment. No
> > pressure to compete -- no logging programs, robots, or multipliers.
Those
> > have their own time and place.
> >
> > Competing with "Straight key night" is competing ... While there may be
> > 'room' there will also be conflict -- let's avoid that if possible. Feb.
20
> > is significant, but Feb. 20, 2009 is a Friday. Perhaps some time on New
> > Year's Day.
> >
> > Comments -- pro and con -- welcome.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > 73 de Phil - N8PS
> >
> > --------------
> >
> > Quoting Jim Haynes <jhhaynes at earthlink.net>:
> > > When we were doing this [Green Key Night] some years back we were
doing
> > > it on Feb 20, the anniversary of legalizing FSK on the HF bands in the
> > > U.S. There were no rules, just get on the air and have fun and
remember
> > > the RTTY pioneers, but participants were urged to use mechanical
> > > teleprinters if possible, vacuum tube gear if possible, and 850 Hz
shift
> > > if possible.
> > >
> > > The event never turned out to be very popular, probably because Feb 20
> > > falls on a week night most years. And the original grant of FSK
> > > privileges started at midnight local time, so the prime time for
> > > operating was the following night, still Feb. 20 but ending at
midnight.
> > >
> > > The original date for FSK operation was Feb 20, 1953, so next year
will
> > > be the 56th anniversary.
> > >
> > > Another thought would be a QSO party or contest where use of
mechanical
> > > TTY gear is required, or gets extra points. Would you want to require
> > > vacuum tube gear? 850 Hz shift?
> > >
> > > On Sun, 7 Dec 2008, Roy Morgan wrote:
> > > > On Dec 7, 2008, at 12:55 PM, wa3frp at aol.com wrote:
> > > >> Yes - this is a great idea and I am very interested in
participating.
> > > >
> > > > How about having a side event to the normal Straight Key Night? Run
it
> > > > the
> > > >
> > > > same times as the SK night. RTTY signals in their normal spots on
the
> > > > band
> > > >
> > > > or bands would hopefully not offend the cw guys a lot. We'd be
> > > > unlikely to
> > > >
> > > > ovewhelm the bands so as to cause trouble.
> > > >
> > > > Roy
> > > >
> > > > Roy Morgan
> > > > k1lky at earthlink.net
> > > > 529 Cobb St.
> > > > Groton NY, 13073
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
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> > > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/rtty
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2008 09:55:41 -0600
> > From: Randy or Sherry Guttery <comcents at bellsouth.net>
> > Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] sound deadening
> > To: kh-phillips at 9-5usa.org, "greenkeys at mailman.qth.net"
> > <greenkeys at mailman.qth.net>
> > Message-ID: <493D437D.6070802 at bellsouth.net>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> >
> > kh-phillips at 9-5usa.org wrote:
> > > Is there a current source for the sound deadening material used in,
for
> > > example, a 28ASR . . . or some good substitute? I recently acquired
some
> > > 28s (RO, KSR, ASR) which seem to have been serving as rodent resorts
for
> > > quite some time so if the sound deadening material had not already
> > > deteriorated it had been providing generations of rodents with warm
beds.
> >
> > I'm currently in contact with Owens-Corning, the original manufacturer
> > of the "pads" in the bottom of (at least the early) 28s. So far - they
> > have shuffled me to several different people whom were "supposed" to
> > recommend a current product equivalent to the 1" fiberglass originally
> > supplied. I'll let everyone know when (*IF*) I get an answer... (been a
> > couple of months already).
> >
> > The original pads supplied in the 28KSR was:
> >
> > Pad, silencing: fibre glass; appox. 14"lg X 11" h X 1" thick. TTY P/N
> > 151533 Owens-Corning P/N PF-316-1 lb density.
> >
> > I've just sent a "reminder - follow-up" email to Owens - hopefully it'll
> > get some response.
> >
> > best regards...
>
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 07:30:26 -0700
From: "Steve Hilsz" <jydsk at tds.net>
Subject: [GreenKeys] Burroughs Parts Machine
To: <greenkeys at mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <00a501c95a0a$b02e7fe0$6ec78245 at mycomputer>
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Anybody have a need for a Burroughs reperf transmitter teletypewriter? It's
Army type TT-75A/66C and most of it is there (the parts missing are a couple
of knobs and a switch).
Steve Hilsz
jydsk at tds.net
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 11:30:59 -0500
From: "Larry Tighe" <larryradio at worldnet.att.net>
Subject: [GreenKeys] Model 19
To: <greenkeys at mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <4B44E464B2014370A958DC0E8C5C7FF8 at ljt>
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It was nice to see the 19 get purchased on eBay....the 26 also.
I hope someone on greenkeys got 'em. Nice looking machines...both of 'em.
Larry
K2JIA
www.antiquetelephone.com
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 19:23:11 -0500
From: "Duncan M. Brown" <duncanancy at earthlink.net>
Subject: RE: [GreenKeys] Burroughs Parts Machine
To: "Steve Hilsz" <jydsk at tds.net>, greenkeys at mailman.qth.net
Message-ID: <380-220081231002311598 at earthlink.net>
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What does it look like??? How big (& heavy) is it?? Where is it??
The Antique Wireless Assoc Museum in Bloomfield, NY (near Rochester) is
always interested in old (& unique) equipment.
Duncan Brown, K2OEQ
USASA 31J
Chief TTY operator & repairman
AWA Electronic Communication Museum
http://www.antiquewireless.org/
> [Original Message]
> From: Steve Hilsz <jydsk at tds.net>
> To: <greenkeys at mailman.qth.net>
> Date: 09-Dec-08 09:36:27
> Subject: [GreenKeys] Burroughs Parts Machine
>
> Anybody have a need for a Burroughs reperf transmitter teletypewriter?
It's
> Army type TT-75A/66C and most of it is there (the parts missing are a
couple
> of knobs and a switch).
>
> Steve Hilsz
> jydsk at tds.net
>
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 19:35:51 -0500
From: "Duncan M. Brown" <duncanancy at earthlink.net>
Subject: RE: [GreenKeys] Burroughs Parts Machine
To: "Steve Hilsz" <jydsk at tds.net>, greenkeys at mailman.qth.net
Message-ID: <380-220081231003551590 at earthlink.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Steve,
Did you mean "TT-76A" ????
--Duncan
> [Original Message]
> From: Steve Hilsz <jydsk at tds.net>
> To: <greenkeys at mailman.qth.net>
> Date: 09-Dec-08 09:36:27
> Subject: [GreenKeys] Burroughs Parts Machine
>
> Anybody have a need for a Burroughs reperf transmitter teletypewriter?
It's
> Army type TT-75A/66C and most of it is there (the parts missing are a
couple
> of knobs and a switch).
>
> Steve Hilsz
> jydsk at tds.net
>
> _______________________________________________
> GreenKeys mailing list
> GreenKeys at mailman.qth.net
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 19:49:02 -0500
From: "Duncan M. Brown" <duncanancy at earthlink.net>
Subject: RE: [GreenKeys] tt-76 civilian
To: "Tom Kleinschmidt" <tomkleinschmidt at comcast.net>,
greenkeys at mailman.qth.net
Message-ID: <380-22008123100492768 at earthlink.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Tom,
Thanks for your two cents (worth much more than that!)
There is a review of the Model 150 in the Western Union Technical Review of
Apr. 1955, p. 77
http://massis.lcs.mit.edu/telecom-archives/archives/technical/western-union-
tech-review/09-2/p077.htm
The article also mentions a Model 155 that was a stripped-down version of
the M150.
Have Fun,
--Duncan
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From: Tom Kleinschmidt
To: greenkeys at mailman.qth.net
Sent: 08-Dec-08 22:40:06
Subject: [GreenKeys] tt-76 civilian
Guys, Only a very small number of Kleinschmidt Machines were sold in the
Civilian world. The government owned most of the machinery and the
contractual requirements limited non-military sales.
If my memory serves the TT-76 is a Kleinschmidt civilian model 120. The
TT-98 / 100 et all are model 150 family - Saw one called a model 152 on the
same platform. Since it was based on a model 15 and ran at 100 WPM perhaps
150 was a testament to its predecessor. The TT-4 is a model 100.
Just my $0.02
Tom
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