[GreenKeys] Re: GreenKeys Digest, Vol 59, Issue 11

Mon Dec 8 21:59:05 EST 2008

Sound deadening, don't do what I did.  I coated the inside of my 28KSRs with 
an adhesive backed foam which I bought from some surplus store in Minneapolis.   
Over the years the foam started to age and crumble.  It made a huge mess 
inside the machines.  It was not a pretty long-term solution but it did work 
well when the foam was new.   I no longer have any sound deadening material 
inside my machines and just enjoy the noise!
Gary WA0NDN
NNNN

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>    1. sound deadening (kh-phillips at 9-5usa.org)
>    2. Re: [RTTY] "Straight key night" for RTTY (Roger Cooke)
>    3. Re: [RTTY] [GreenKeys] RE: "Straight key night" for RTTY
>       (Phil Sussman)
>    4. Re: sound deadening (Randy or Sherry Guttery)
>    5. RE: sound deadening (boatanchor at martasystems.com)
>    6. TT-76 Part needed (n1jzv at midmaine.com)
>    7. Looking for a ASR33 chad box (Alf Fisher)
>    8. the person who had the M28 tabletop unit,	I have a buyer for
>       it ... (John Hensley)
>    9. Model 28 has a home now (WB6BLV    (DM06))
>   10. Re: TT-76 Part needed (Larry Tighe)
>   11. Sound proofing (Jeffrey Angus)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 07:00:47 -0600 (CST)
> From: kh-phillips at 9-5usa.org
> Subject: [GreenKeys] sound deadening
> To: GreenKeys at mailman.qth.net
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> Is there a current source for the sound deadening material used in, for
> example, a 28ASR . . . or some good substitute?  I recently acquired some
> 28s (RO, KSR, ASR) which seem to have been serving as rodent resorts for
> quite some time so if the sound deadening material had not already
> deteriorated it had been providing generations of rodents with warm beds.
>
> Thanks,
> Kevin
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2008 18:43:02 +0000
> From: Roger Cooke <g3ldi at g3ldi.co.uk>
> Subject: [GreenKeys] Re: [RTTY] "Straight key night" for RTTY
> To: wa3frp at aol.com
> Cc: greenkeys at mailman.qth.net, rtty at contesting.com
> Message-ID: <493C1936.9050507 at g3ldi.co.uk>
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> I got rid of my model 19 set some years ago.  I would at that time have
> given my right arm for a 28ASR. That was the
> holy grail in the UK. I don't think anybody ever did get one.
>
>   No, you will have to put up with me on the "grey keys" now!  However,
> I can type lots more than 599 73!
>
> I was taught by the maestro - G3CQE - the first G on HF RTTY.
>
> 73 de Roger, G3LDI
>
> wa3frp at aol.com wrote:
> > Yes - this is a great idea and I am very interested in participating.??
> > I've copied the "Greenkeys" list in the hope that others on that?list are
> > also interested in participating in a Straight key night that would be
> > open to all, including those who are still capable of using "Heavy Metal"
> > RTTY.
> >
> > Thanks and 73
> > Russ WA3FRP
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Sun,? 7 Dec 2008 07:42:03 -0500
> > From: Phil Sussman <psussman at pactor.com>
> > Subject: [RTTY] "Straight key night" for RTTY
> > To: RTTY Reflector <rtty at contesting.com>
> > Cc: Kok Chen <chen at mac.com>
> > Message-ID: <1228653723.493bc49bc6f7f at webmail.pactor.com>
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> > Hello all..
> >
> > Chen sent me an email containing an idea that I believe has merit. <See
> > below>
> >
> > I am willing to work on this project.
> >
> > Does anyone have any hints about this? Are there potential conflicts?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > 73 de Phil - N8PS
> >
> > -------
> >
> > Quoting Kok Chen <chen at mac.com>:
> >> We need a "straight key night" for RTTY.? No macros, no exchanges,?
> >> just get on to type a hello or two -- perhaps you can organize one?
> >> like that to coincide with SKN?? The Swedish Happy New Year event?
> >> still requires you to send an exchange than chat free-hand.
> >>
> >> Vy 73
> >> Chen
> >
> > ?
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon,  8 Dec 2008 08:00:26 -0500
> From: Phil Sussman <psussman at pactor.com>
> Subject: Re: [RTTY] [GreenKeys] RE: "Straight key night" for RTTY
> To: Jim Haynes <jhhaynes at earthlink.net>
> Cc: wa3frp at aol.com, greenkeys at mailman.qth.net, Roy Morgan
> 	<k1lky at earthlink.net>,	rtty at contesting.com
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> If the primary focus is to promote QSOs on RTTY then I believe that the
> solution is simplicity itself.
>
> Get on the air, just to say howdy, or rag-chew, or QSO with whatever
> pleases you. If it's 850z shift -or- older mechanical machines -or- that
> old Commodore VIC-20 with a Hamsoft cartridge -or- whatever. Forget
> formality or format. Yep, remember those old RTTY pioneers and experience
> your own 'pioneering'.
>
> If you've wanted to play with RTTY for the first time or the thousandth
> time, here is an opportunity to have fun and gain some enjoyment. No
> pressure to compete -- no logging programs, robots, or multipliers. Those
> have their own time and place.
>
> Competing with "Straight key night" is competing ... While there may be
> 'room' there will also be conflict -- let's avoid that if possible. Feb. 20
> is significant, but Feb. 20, 2009 is a Friday. Perhaps some time on New
> Year's Day.
>
> Comments -- pro and con -- welcome.
>
> Thanks,
>
> 73 de Phil - N8PS
>
> --------------
>
> Quoting Jim Haynes <jhhaynes at earthlink.net>:
> > When we were doing this [Green Key Night] some years back we were doing
> > it on Feb 20, the anniversary of legalizing FSK on the HF bands in the
> > U.S. There were no rules, just get on the air and have fun and remember
> > the RTTY pioneers, but participants were urged to use mechanical
> > teleprinters if possible, vacuum tube gear if possible, and 850 Hz shift
> > if possible.
> >
> > The event never turned out to be very popular, probably because Feb 20
> > falls on a week night most years.  And the original grant of FSK
> > privileges started at midnight local time, so the prime time for
> > operating was the following night, still  Feb. 20 but ending at midnight.
> >
> > The original date for FSK operation was Feb 20, 1953, so next year will
> > be the 56th anniversary.
> >
> > Another thought would be a QSO party or contest where use of mechanical
> > TTY gear is required, or gets extra points.  Would you want to require
> > vacuum tube gear?  850 Hz shift?
> >
> > On Sun, 7 Dec 2008, Roy Morgan wrote:
> > > On Dec 7, 2008, at 12:55 PM, wa3frp at aol.com wrote:
> > >> Yes - this is a great idea and I am very interested in participating.
> > >
> > > How about having a side event to the normal Straight Key Night?  Run it
> > > the
> > >
> > > same times as the SK night.  RTTY signals in their normal spots on the
> > > band
> > >
> > > or bands would hopefully not offend the cw guys a lot.  We'd be
> > > unlikely to
> > >
> > > ovewhelm the bands so as to cause trouble.
> > >
> > > Roy
> > >
> > > Roy Morgan
> > > k1lky at earthlink.net
> > > 529 Cobb St.
> > > Groton NY, 13073
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2008 09:55:41 -0600
> From: Randy or Sherry Guttery <comcents at bellsouth.net>
> Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] sound deadening
> To: kh-phillips at 9-5usa.org,	"greenkeys at mailman.qth.net"
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> kh-phillips at 9-5usa.org wrote:
> > Is there a current source for the sound deadening material used in, for
> > example, a 28ASR . . . or some good substitute?  I recently acquired some
> > 28s (RO, KSR, ASR) which seem to have been serving as rodent resorts for
> > quite some time so if the sound deadening material had not already
> > deteriorated it had been providing generations of rodents with warm beds.
>
> I'm currently in contact with Owens-Corning, the original manufacturer
> of the "pads" in the bottom of (at least the early) 28s. So far - they
> have shuffled me to several different people whom were "supposed" to
> recommend a current product equivalent to the 1" fiberglass originally
> supplied.  I'll let everyone know when (*IF*) I get an answer... (been a
> couple of months already).
>
> The original pads supplied in the 28KSR was:
>
> Pad, silencing: fibre glass; appox. 14"lg X 11" h X 1" thick.  TTY P/N
> 151533   Owens-Corning P/N PF-316-1 lb density.
>
> I've just sent a "reminder - follow-up" email to Owens - hopefully it'll
> get some response.
>
> best regards...