[GreenKeys] mail problems?

[gil smith]

Hi Larry:

I have been out of town for a week and just got back.

I know there have been issues related to arrl and aol addresses, but no 
other domains that I know of.  Some folks with arrl and aol got 
unsubscribed automatically when their mail server started rejecting 
greenkeys traffic.  There is a description of the unsubscribe mechanism below.

I looked at your greenkeys subscription, and your receive mail was turned 
off.  I have turned your address back on.

I cannot monitor all bounce notices, since most of it is spam which is 
automatically rejected by the system -- and there is a lot.  So you need to 
let me know if your account "goes away."  If you don't see a post for a 
couple of days, it could be a quiet list, but a quiet week would be very rare.

thanks,

gil smith
greenkeys moderator


At 05:11 PM 8/24/2007, you wrote:

>The auto removal of bouncing addresses is a feature in mailman.  It is 
>described in the manual which can be found by using the link at the bottom 
>of all postings to this list.
>
>It works like this:
>
>The server tries for 24 hours to send a message before it is returned to 
>the list that sent it.  By default the number of DAYS (not postings) of 
>bouncing mail is set to 5.  We also set the period that the 5 days of 
>bounces can occur to 30.  The last setting is how many warnings is sent 
>(3) and how often (1 per week).
>
>So, if a member of a list has 5 days of bouncing mail in a 30 day period, 
>mail to him is put on hold.  He will be sent the warning message every 
>week for 3 weeks before he is unsubscribed.  If he responds to the warning 
>message before it expires his subscription will be reinstated 
>immediately.  If he doesn't respond, he can re-subscribe himself which may 
>be inconvenient but isn't the end of the world.
>
>Using the default settings a member can have about a month of bouncing 
>mail before he is actually removed from the list.  Note that this is more 
>than adequate time to have transient problems resolved.
>
>Note that Al and I both feel that these settings should not be increased 
>to keep bouncing addresses on your lists since this only increases the 
>load on the mailman server trying to send mail over and over to bouncing 
>addresses.  This is especially true for high volume lists since 20 posts a 
>day to 3 or 4 bouncing addresses can quickly fill our mail queue with mail 
>for bad addresses, and make retries go sky high.
>
>This deal with ARRL server is unfortunate and it's too bad if these folks 
>can't understand that them being removed is either their fault for not 
>responding to the warning message (regardless if their spam filter caught 
>it or not) or the fault of the spammers that overloaded the ARRL servers 
>and cause them to be unreachable.  It is not the fault of the list admins 
>or the mailman server.
>
>Personally, I've had enough abuse from clueless people over the years and 
>if I get a nastygram from someone like that I normally just delete it.  If 
>they can't act like an adult and be reasonable, I'm not going to make much 
>effort to help them.
>
>Hopefully this has addressed the question at hand.
>
>Tim


At 05:48 PM 9/9/2007, Larry Tighe wrote:
>This is strange,
>
>now I'm getting people...but my post of excess machinery never came thru !
>
>Thanks to all ....glad the rest got my posting.
>
>lar
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Cunningham" <wb5hak at martineer.net>
>To: "Larry Tighe" <larryradio at worldnet.att.net>; <greenkeys at mailman.qth.net>
>Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2007 19:46
>Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] Test
>
>
>>It came through here, Larry.  May be a block coming back to you!
>>73,
>>Don, WB5HAK
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Tighe" 
>><larryradio at worldnet.att.net>
>>To: <greenkeys at mailman.qth.net>
>>Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2007 6:43 PM
>>Subject: [GreenKeys] Test
>>
>>
>>>I'm not getting any tty stuff anymore!  Is the list working?  I posted 
>>>machines available and it never came back thru my e-mail.  I'm worried 
>>>ATT.net is blocking my mail, maybe.
>>>
>>>I'm in distress
>>>
>>>Larry
>>>www.antiquetelephone.com
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>>>
>>>
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>>>Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 
>>>269.13.12/997 - Release Date: 9/9/2007 10:17 AM
>>>
>
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