[GreenKeys] Hot Line, and USSR teleprinter nomenclature, etc

[Gregory W. Moore]

Tnx much Meir,

I looked and looked at that machine, and darned if I could figure out 
what it was.   I feel kinda embarrassed with all the years
I spent in Naval comms, and I thought I knew every darned machine in 
existance..... Even the crypto stuff was familiar and friendly
'cause that just happened to be one of my specialties ( They never let 
us out to see the sunlight --hi--)......

I know UK machines, and a lot of others, but never had the chance to see 
a T63-SU12 in operation, and as Navy, never
had hot line experience, although a lot of other sensitive stuff was 
shoveled my way..... Many thanks for the info.... If I can
get any more info ( speed, OPM, loop volts/current) I can pass it on to 
the other group (cryptocollectors [Yahoo Groups]

us ex "crippies" kinda stick together since we never learned to spell 
right and all our words were five letter groups --hi--.....
besides, once one spent long periods of time locked in windowless 
compartments, with thick, vault type doors, with numbing
security regs and access lists, and "shoot on sight" regulations..... 
True story.....compartment where I worked was guarded by
2 US Marine types.  Now, let it be known that I was friends with both 
Marines, and they recognized me on sight, and we had
been on liberty many times and consumed much intoxicating liquors and 
beers together, since we were all married, and that
was about as far as we went on liberty--hi--.... Well, at 0 dark 30 one 
morning I was on watch in offline crypto, which is kinda
the "holy of holies" in the scheme of things........The air conditioning 
in the space, normally fairly decent, was inop, and a call had
been put in for someone to investigate the cause of same.... I had 
removed my shirt with my rank, and also my access ID card
clipped to the pocket thereof.  I also was not wearing any cover, it 
being too hot (this was on the USS America [CV/CVA-66]
during the 1970 Vietnam deployment].  My dog tags were below hanging in 
my locker, as such items were forbidden on watch
lest they dangle out and short a circuit, or electrocute the wearer.........

OK, needs of nature raised their ugly head, and it became clear that I 
absolutely, positively, had to visit the head right that very
second or serious embarrassment would occur..... I unlocked the vault 
door, exited, locked the door behind me, and told the
2 guards my "mission" and that I would return in a minute or so.   I 
then proceeded to take care of the business at hand, and with
a great sigh of relief, returned thru Main Comm to the crypto 
space....... Right there, the problems started.  I was asked for my
ID's to compare with the "Master Access List" which is posted on the 
door of every security area.  I was (but shoudn't have been)
incredulous......hell, I had just left.....the 2 Marines knew me by 
sight... what did they expect??  the Viet Cong or the Soviets had
replaced me with a double? in the middle of the sea??????  All the 
reasoning and rapidly escalating anger was to no good, and I do
believe that the "shoot on sight" would have been performed if I had 
kept up complaining....

I had to WAKE UP the Comm Officer ( one of the exceedingly short list of 
"chosen few" allowed to enter the "inner sanctum" and
the "holy of holies")......and explain to one pissed off, sleepy, 
cranky, Navy Commander why I woke him up at 0300.  He was definitely
not a happy camper, but he did, after some cajoling (read ass kissing) 
agree to put his uniform on and with his Id, verify my identity.....

He did, and the Marines all of a sudden became very friendly, after 
snapping to rigid attention for the CDR.  The "gotcha" grin
couldn't be supressed whatsoever......but they did launch into their 
staccatto " we were doing our job, Sir, Standing Order
such and such reads etc. etc and this man didn't have the proper 
identification, so we couldn't permit him to enter SIR  (Rigid
attention, snappy salute, sure to please anyone,,,, meanwhile GW here is 
slowly fuming and is thinking about how dark it is and
how deep the water is under the catwalks, and how much of a splash a 
Marine makes falling 90 feet to the concrete hard ocean
along with various other nefarious thoughts, which he fought down, and 
simply, with a sheepish grin, entered the space, put his
shirt on, and was immediately recognized by all 
concerned............Later, after the Commo had left, I left the space, 
and confronted
my "friends", and in my best military fashion ( I outranked both) gently 
enquired as to the reason for the debacle which had just
occurred, and also made a gentle suggestion that this never occur again, 
lest I lose my temper, and place them on report, with
the recommendation that they both recieve 3 days "Piss and Punk" in the 
brig after Capt's mast..........OK, maybe it wasn't so
gentle........Well. turns out they had been chewed out for being lax at 
security and were following orders to the "T" so all I could
do at this point was convulse in laughter, shake hands, pound them on 
the back, laugh again, and say "Well Done"... I even wrote
a letter of commendation for both of them to both the Marine CO as well 
as up the chain of command to the XO and CO of the ship
for carrying out their security detail with precision, panache, and 
exactitude....All ended well, and other than having to endure
kidding for the next few weeks until the next funny incident replaced 
this one, nothing bad happened.........

I hope you get a kick out of this funny story, and it cheers your day 
up..... and if you happen to come across anymore info on
that  T63-SU12 let me know.  I thank you much for what you have given 
me... I really appreciate the info...

73 es tnx
de Greg "GW" Moore
WA3IVX/ NNN0BVN


 


WF2U wrote:

>It's an East German made model T63-SU12 teleprinter, with a dual
>Cyrillic/Latin keyboard. I saw a similar one at a hamfest in Germany, with a
>German keyboard. It's indeed a 6 level machine. I don't know the speed
>though...
>
>73, Meir WF2U / NNN0AAF
>
>NNNN
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>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: greenkeys-bounces at mailman.qth.net
>>[mailto:greenkeys-bounces at mailman.qth.net]On Behalf Of Gregory W. Moore
>>Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 5:57 PM
>>To: GreenKeys at mailman.qth.net
>>Subject: [GreenKeys] Hot Line, and USSR teleprinter nomenclature, etc
>>
>>
>>GE, fellow greenkeyers,
>>
>>On another group, there was a discussion concerning the hot line... now,
>>while I know about the 2 28ASR's, and the crypto stuff
>>having "been there and done that", I don't know the nomenclature of the
>>USSR machine pictured.  Anyone in the group familiar
>>with this machine???   How many code levels (I believe 6 from the punch
>>  on the left)  what speed and OPM?  Any
>>info would be greatly appreciated..
>>
>>Photo is at the following URL:
>>
>>http://www.moorefelines.com/greenkeys/US_USSR hot line.jpg
>>
>>many tnks
>>de Greg "GW" Moore WA3IVX/NNN0BVN
>>
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