[GreenKeys] AN/UGC-74B?

Scott Johnson scottjohnson1 at cox.net
Tue Jun 14 00:10:24 EDT 2005


My impression of the B and C models is uniformly favorable, they atre 
absolutely bulletproof, I have never had or operated a straight or A model, 
im fact most of mine have the memory expansion and new processor mod, I 
beleive these are the one Fair is selling now.

Scott
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Don Robert House" <drhouse at nadcomm.com>
To: "Tom Kleinschmidt" <tomkleinschmidt at comcast.net>; 
<greenkeys at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 8:01 PM
Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] AN/UGC-74B?


> Thanks for the correction Tom.  Nice hearing from you.
>
> Don
>
> On 13 Jun 2005, at 7:54 PM, Tom Kleinschmidt wrote:
>
>> Correction!
>>
>> The original model -74 (Formerly TT-412-TG) was DESIGNED by  Kleinschmidt
>> (KL) but KL did not win any of the manufacturing contracts. In  fact, 
>> this
>> printer and other equipment known as the "Tactical Communications 
>> Project" -
>> or something close by name - was the beginning of the end for the 
>> company.
>>
>> The bidding method was changed by the military signal corps in the mid
>> 1960s. The former tried and true formula was to low bid the design and
>> engineering and make up the losses on manufacturing. Instead each 
>> segment
>> was bid completely independently. Gone were the days when if you 
>> designed
>> it -they would come! You were no longer "automatically" the  manufacturer 
>> of
>> your design.
>>
>> The first version, no suffix and A?,  used the rotating font wheels as
>> described in other emails - this was a design borrowed from the KL
>> 311(AN/FGC-80) KSR, 312 RO and 321? (AN/FGC -140) ASR data printers.
>>
>> The B and C suffix models are dot matrix printers as I recall - 
>> redesigned
>> by others.
>>
>> Since it seems to be  a well disliked piece of gear I knew you  would 
>> like to
>> know more about it! ;>)
>>
>> Tom
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Don Robert House" <drhouse at nadcomm.com>
>> To: <greenkeys at mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2005 12:23 AM
>> Subject: Fwd: [GreenKeys] AN/UGC-74B?
>>
>>
>>
>>>> From: Don Robert House <drhouse at nadcomm.com>
>>>> Date: 10 June 2005 7:41:32 PM CDT
>>>> To: Bob McConnell <rmcconne at lightlink.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] AN/UGC-74B?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The UGC-74 was made by Kleinschmidt.  The UGC-74A and UGC-74B were
>>>> made by other manufacturers.  Only the 74 uses a standard ribbon.
>>>> The other two use special cartridges made only for the military.
>>>> There is a work around for replacing the ribbon if you intend to
>>>> get one.  They are heavy duty machines that are waterproof.
>>>> Shipping is expensive since they weigh 100 pounds each.  You also
>>>> need a special power cable to power them up.
>>>>
>>>> The Army has been using these old machines in some cases in
>>>> Afghanistan and Iraq until very recently as these machines run fine
>>>> in very very hot weather and are sand proof as well as waterproof.
>>>> Tom Kleinschmidt and Warren Brader are the experts on these
>>>> teletypewriters.
>>>>
>>>> Don R. House K9TTY
>>>> drhouse at nadcomm.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 10 Jun 2005, at 12:42 PM, Bob McConnell wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Can anyone tell me what these are? They don't quite look like
>>>>> Model 28s. There are two of them on this page:
>>>>>
>>>>>   <http://www.govliquidation.com/list/c7161/lna/1.html>
>>>>>
>>>>> THank you,
>>>>>
>>>>> Bob McConnell
>>>>> N2SPP
>>>>>
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