[GreenKeys] Teletype Corp archives, museum

[Bob Camp]

Hi

I assume that what ever they did Teletype probably protected the type 
face as best they could legally. A copyright or trademark filing is 
about the only way I know to do this. If they did so it may have been 
filed as Teletype in Skokie, or just like a lot of other things the 
filing may have been done from Western Electric headquarters in New 
York. Either way it's a long shot.

If they did a copyright *and* they did it right (good bet they did it 
right) then the Library of Congress in Washington should have a copy of 
what ever they filed. The catch is that you would need a starting point 
for the search. Judging by the number of documents the old AT&T empire 
generated the library probably has a whole building dedicated to 
storing the copies AT&T filed.

Just to make it all more complex the type face may have come from one 
of the various companies that folded into Teletype in the early years.

You probably could spend a couple of years just digging into this 
little chunk of industrial history ...

	Take Care!

		Bob Camp
		KB8TQ\


On Jul 30, 2004, at 12:20 AM, Eric Scace K3NA wrote:

> Hi Bob --
>
>    As explained in an earlier message, I do not intend to emulate type 
> with randomized locations.  [By the way, this has been done
> technically by digital typographers who needed to produce material 
> than replicated old, hand-set type.  Such type had minute nicks
> and variations from one instance of a letter to another, and some 
> natural variation in location and alignment.  To achieve this
> effect digitally required some complex post-processing software.  It 
> is only done for specific applications in graphic design where
> this effect is necessary; e.g., for a particular type of advertising 
> or artwork.  Most of that software is proprietary and not in
> distribution.]
>
>    Kerning is a different technical issue in typography.  Since 
> Teletype machines printed at fixed spacing, there is no kerning in
> these fonts.
>
>    When you talk about "registration", are you referring to a 
> copyright registration?
>
> -- Eric
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: greenkeys-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:greenkeys-bounces at mailman.qth.net]On Behalf Of Bob Camp
> Sent: 2004 July 29 19:50
> To: Eric Scace K3NA; Greenkeys ((E-mail))
> Cc: John Foust
> Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] Teletype Corp archives, museum
>
>
> Hi
>
> If we are going to totally emulate the type produced by a teletype or a
> typewriter we would have to randomize the locations of each and every
> character on the page. One of the things that your eye picks up very
> quickly is the fact that the alignment of characters produced by a type
> setting machine is a lot more accurate than the alignment produced by
> other means.
>
> I agree that this and other things make an exact duplication of the
> output of a model 28 a very difficult task. I have seen type setting
> programs that allow you to specify the kerning of an individual
> character but I don't even know the proper term for a vertical
> alignment variation (unless it also falls under the same heading).
> Randomizing a metric for which there is not even a technical descriptor
> might be a bit tough. .....
>
> Just to make the entire task even more difficult ... is there any
> evidence that Teletype used only one font ?
>
> One approach to digging up the information - Teletype font
> registrations may have been done through good old Western Electric (195
> Broadway, New York , New York). Same place I got my first UNIX license
> from, but that's another story ....
>
> 	Take Care!
>
> 		Bob Camp
> 		KB8TQ
>
>
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