[GreenKeys] "Big Bird" Project - Got mine
C & S Hydrick
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Sat, 19 Jul 2003 09:46:36 -0700
My Dovetron arrived and it's beautiful, looks like it was never used.
So far it's just sitting on the kitchen counter being admired. Need to
get the hubby busy building the required accessories now!
Sherry
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1. "Big Bird" project (mark acierno)
2. Re: "Big Bird" project (Bill Riches)
3. Re: "Big Bird" project (Richard M. Gillingham)
4. Announcement ([email protected])
5. Re: Announcement (Richard M. Gillingham)
6. Announcement (John Lawson)
7. Q: Cleaning Model 28 typing unit (McNerney, Tim)
8. Tempest "Big Bird" Dovetrons (Jack)
9. Re: Tempest "Big Bird" Dovetrons (Glen Galati)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 06:42:22 -0400
From: mark acierno <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: [GreenKeys] "Big Bird" project
I'm starting to wonder if I am the only one to not receive their unit
:-(.....
are they still being shipped?
thanx
mark
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Message: 2
From: "Bill Riches" <[email protected]>
To: "mark acierno" <[email protected]>,
<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] "Big Bird" project
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 07:50:32 -0400
----- Original Message -----
From: "mark acierno" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 6:42 AM
Subject: [GreenKeys] "Big Bird" project
> I'm starting to wonder if I am the only one to not receive their unit
> :-(.....
> are they still being shipped?
>
> Hi Mark,
I have not received mine yet either, however remember this is a
volunteer
project and they guys are checking out each unit and with their real job
and
family duties are only shipping a few a week. They deserve our
gratitude
for this uphill project.
73,
Bill Riches, WA2DVU
Cape May, NJ
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Message: 3
From: "Richard M. Gillingham" <[email protected]>
To: "Bill Riches" <[email protected]>,
"mark acierno" <[email protected]>,
<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] "Big Bird" project
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 09:05:33 -0400
They're still shipping.. They started at the top of the list and are
working down.
But I got mine!!!! (gloat) (grin)
Here's the last list I received. There may have been revisions since...
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Receipt of Funds Status as of 29 Mar 2003 2000PST
1. - Jact Hart, WA2HWJ - Funds Received
2. - Joe Montano, N9VMO
3. - Charles Ring, W3NU - Funds Received
4. - Perry Ballinger, W8AU - Funds Received
5. - Richard Gillingham, W1RG - Funds Received
6. - Gil Smith, Famous Inventor and TTY Enthusiast - Funds Received
7. - John Burch, WB6GHA - Funds Received
8. - Gregory Moore, WA3IVX - Funds Received
9. - Lynn Neece, KB6OKS - Funds Received
10. - Bob Camp, KB8TQ - Funds Received
11. - Sherry Hydrick, TTY Enthusiast - Funds Received
12. - Dave Freeman, WW8S - Funds Received
13. - Brian Rule, KC8MXQ - Funds Received
14. - Larry "The Telegrapher" Godek, W0OGH - Funds Received
15. - Joseph Pinner, KC5IJD
16. - Don House, Museum Curator, Foofy's Buddy - Funds Received
17. - Clarence Turk, KB0BFI - Funds Received
18. - John Parker, KD7KFT
19. - Howard Weeks, K5JCP - Funds Received (Volunteered to Pick Up/Pack
Units)
20. - Web Williams, KR4WM - Funds Received
21. - Bill Bytheway, AA6ED - Funds Received
22. - Roy Morgan, K1LKY - Funds Received
23. - Mark Acierno, Junior Veterinarian and N2UEM - Funds Received
24. - Henry Lines, KH6JJS - Funds Received
25. - Doug Alderdice, KA2WFT - Funds Received
26. - Bill Riches, WA2DVU - Funds Received
27. - Richard Schumann, N7HH - Funds Received
28. - Bruce Zimmerman, WA0WY - Funds Received
29. - John Lawson, KB6SCO - Funds Received (Cash)
30. - Bill Strangfeld, W8FIX - Funds Received
31. - Jim Young, W8MAQ - Funds Received
32. - Ron Kolarik, K0IDT - Funds Received
33. - Roy Norris, K4EEG - Funds Received
34. - Fred Sell, WA7OBB - Funds Received
35. - Lloyd Scott, SWL, RTTY Enthusiast, and Oily-Voiced Broadcaster -
Funds Received
36. - Dave Ross, N7EPI - Funds Received
37. - Ed Greeley, TTY Enthusiast - Funds Received
38. - John Poulton, KF4OZY - Funds Received
39. - Don Cunningham, WB5HAK, Senior Moment Participant - Funds Received
40. - Christian Fandt, Ex-WB2WAO, known Long-Term GreenKeyer - Funds
Received
41. - Conrad Doucette, W1QDV - Funds Received
42. - Ken Schweiker, K4KQR - Funds Received
43. - Gen. Robert DelGatto, TTY Enthusiast, Jack Hart Protege - Funds
Received
44. - Rich McClung, WA6KNW - Funds Received (Tower)
45. - Jon Oldenburg, AB9AH - Funds Received
46. - Greg Mengell, Former Spook
47. - Vern Schroeder, K9POU - Funds Received
48. - Tony Podrasky, W6ESE - Funds Received
49. - Tom Kleinschmidt, Inventor's Grandson - Funds Received
50. - F Class unit - Pat Person, K7YIR - Funds Received (Cash)
51. - F Class - Bob Camp, KB8TQ
52. - F Class - Available
53. - F Class - Available
54. - F Class - Available
55. - F Class - Available
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It's on its way.. Soon... Honest...
GL
Gil, W1RG
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Riches" <[email protected]>
To: "mark acierno" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 7:50 AM
Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] "Big Bird" project
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "mark acierno" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 6:42 AM
> Subject: [GreenKeys] "Big Bird" project
>
>
> > I'm starting to wonder if I am the only one to not receive their
unit
> > :-(.....
> > are they still being shipped?
> >
> > Hi Mark,
>
> I have not received mine yet either, however remember this is a
volunteer
> project and they guys are checking out each unit and with their real
job
and
> family duties are only shipping a few a week. They deserve our
gratitude
> for this uphill project.
>
> 73,
>
> Bill Riches, WA2DVU
> Cape May, NJ
>
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Message: 4
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 13:30:14 +0000
Subject: [GreenKeys] Announcement
Fellow Greenkeyers....
I am proud to announce that Bob del Gatto, a Greenkey
member and fellow "Paterson Warehouse" junky, has
obtained his Amateur Radio License! He is now
KC2LTX and will hopefully be on RTTY soon.
Bob has been collecting "stuff" for a long time and
has recently become a real TTY fanatic. When we
both met at Paterson, Bob decided to specialize in
grabbing every Model 15 and Kleinschmidt he could
carry. I believe he actually made more visits to
the place than I did.
Congratulations to KC2LTX!
73 to all,
Jack WA2HWJ
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Message: 5
From: "Richard M. Gillingham" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>, <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] Announcement
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 09:48:38 -0400
He must be a very large and strong indiviual indeed to carry all those
M-15s... Not to mention the Kleinschmidts...
And welcome to the demented ranks of Hamdom to Bob...
Gil, W1RG
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From: <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 9:30 AM
Subject: [GreenKeys] Announcement
> Fellow Greenkeyers....
>
> I am proud to announce that Bob del Gatto, a Greenkey
> member and fellow "Paterson Warehouse" junky, has
> obtained his Amateur Radio License! He is now
> KC2LTX and will hopefully be on RTTY soon.
>
> Bob has been collecting "stuff" for a long time and
> has recently become a real TTY fanatic. When we
> both met at Paterson, Bob decided to specialize in
> grabbing every Model 15 and Kleinschmidt he could
> carry. I believe he actually made more visits to
> the place than I did.
>
> Congratulations to KC2LTX!
>
> 73 to all,
>
> Jack WA2HWJ
>
> NNNN
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 16:03:42 -0400 (EDT)
From: John Lawson <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: [GreenKeys] Announcement
>I am proud to announce that Bob del Gatto, a Greenkey
>member and fellow "Paterson Warehouse" junky, has
>obtained his Amateur Radio License! He is now
>KC2LTX and will hopefully be on RTTY soon.
VY FB OM YR SIGS 59 RPT 59 ES WELCOME
TO THE BANDS ES HP TO QSO SOON ON KEYS.
ALL BST ES 73 DE KB6SCO
Waiting for the BigBird to drop off a package sometime soon, in the
meantime this weekend I hope to have a temp antenna up at the new QTH
and
get a few of the rigs dusted off. The Model 19 seems to have survived
the
journey with nary a scratch, excepting of course the damage to Yours
Truly getting it on and off trucks and bullies into it's new Operating
Position. At least I lost 30 pounds during the Move ;}
Cheers
John
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Message: 7
From: "McNerney, Tim" <[email protected]>
To: "'[email protected]'" <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 19:29:36 -0400
Subject: [GreenKeys] Q: Cleaning Model 28 typing unit
So I just picked up another one... :-)
This is a complete 28RO without a case. It came in a nice little
chassis with a handle on each side, and (pleasantly) it is almost
portable!
The unit in question appears to work. The claim is it only has about
50-100 hours on it. But... it's been sitting in storage for 20 years,
so it has colleced some dust here and there, which of course has
turned into that wonderful amalgamation of dust + grease...
What is the recommended way to cleaning a Model 28 Typing Unit?
I have heard crazy stories about people running these through their
dishwasher, and other stories about dipping the whole thing into a
solvent bath. One guy suggested WD-40. None of these sound sensible.
BTW, what is the recommended oil for these machines?
Is "3-in-1" okay, or does it need something heavier, or with
fewer solvents? I know I've seen discussions about this, so
I apologize for asking a FAQ (which, incidentally, seems to
exist nowhere on the Web).
Please advise.
Best regards,
--Tim McNerney
Newton, MA
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Message: 8
Reply-To: "Jack" <[email protected]>
From: "Jack" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 20:26:31 -0400
Subject: [GreenKeys] Tempest "Big Bird" Dovetrons
ZCZC
Greenkeyers,
I received my Tempest Dovetron today!!! The one I got
definitely one of the stranger configurations. There is absolutely
no regen board at all. Instead, there's a three-tone-set AFSK board
(allows three different tone groups to be selected) and another
board for reversing the tones (?). The tones are set for
compatibility to other military RTTY units. You get 85,
200 and 850 HZ shifted tones out of the unit. They are
all adjustable with trimpots inside the unit. Finally, there's a "KOX"
board which is the "keyboard operated transmit" feature. It
allows you to key the transmitter when you hit the keyboard.
There's a few small boards which I didn't have time to
figure out yet. But, I can attest to the fact that these
beauties cannot provide regeneration or speed conversion
as they are now setup. I have already sent a note to
Gil and I believe he will be looking into an external
"digital widget" solution.
The output is either RS232 or MIL188 voltages. A very simple
adaptor can be made with three parts to be able to key
a high-voltage TTY loop from the MIL188 BNC. You'll need a 1k Ohm 1/4
resistor, a 1N914 diode and an NPN high voltage keying transistor.
I'll get a schematic (ready tomorrow) to George for him
to put onto RTTY.COM. The only hard part to find will be the
keying transistor. You'll need a Motorola MJE340 or a "TIP"
equivalent. I'll let you know what else might be substitiuted.
Maybe there's a Radio Shack replacement? If any of you have
Gil's interface converter board, it can be plugged right into the
RS232 BNC, and away you go.
The Dovetron Tempest manual that just I received from WW8S is not
the manual for this particular unit. The manual does match a few
of the older Tempest units I have seen. Those units did have the
regen board. Some of them have been on Ebay lately. Look for
the 3-speed switch on the front panel.
The parts inside seem to point to this unit as being late 80's
vintage (datecodes). My guess is that these might have been
used as "modems" in the simplest sense...maybe on VHF
frequencies or even wirelines? The lack of the regenerator seems to
indicate
the use wasn't for critical HF radio use. There is no
military nomenclature label on my unit. I would also
point out that there might be variations amongst the
units that are being sent to everyone. So, the above is a
guideline based upon the unit I received.
My thanks to George and Dale for the hard work in getting
these units for us. The Dovetrons are beautiful pieces of
engineering and we should all have a great time with them.
73,
Jack WA2HWJ
NNNN
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Message: 9
From: "Glen Galati" <[email protected]>
To: "Jack" <[email protected]>, <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] Tempest "Big Bird" Dovetrons
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 18:08:41 -0700
WHO'S DALE?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jack" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 5:26 PM
Subject: [GreenKeys] Tempest "Big Bird" Dovetrons
> ZCZC
>
> Greenkeyers,
>
> I received my Tempest Dovetron today!!! The one I got
> definitely one of the stranger configurations. There is absolutely
> no regen board at all. Instead, there's a three-tone-set AFSK board
> (allows three different tone groups to be selected) and another
> board for reversing the tones (?). The tones are set for
> compatibility to other military RTTY units. You get 85,
> 200 and 850 HZ shifted tones out of the unit. They are
> all adjustable with trimpots inside the unit. Finally, there's a "KOX"
> board which is the "keyboard operated transmit" feature. It
> allows you to key the transmitter when you hit the keyboard.
> There's a few small boards which I didn't have time to
> figure out yet. But, I can attest to the fact that these
> beauties cannot provide regeneration or speed conversion
> as they are now setup. I have already sent a note to
> Gil and I believe he will be looking into an external
> "digital widget" solution.
>
> The output is either RS232 or MIL188 voltages. A very simple
> adaptor can be made with three parts to be able to key
> a high-voltage TTY loop from the MIL188 BNC. You'll need a 1k Ohm 1/4
> resistor, a 1N914 diode and an NPN high voltage keying transistor.
> I'll get a schematic (ready tomorrow) to George for him
> to put onto RTTY.COM. The only hard part to find will be the
> keying transistor. You'll need a Motorola MJE340 or a "TIP"
> equivalent. I'll let you know what else might be substitiuted.
> Maybe there's a Radio Shack replacement? If any of you have
> Gil's interface converter board, it can be plugged right into the
> RS232 BNC, and away you go.
>
> The Dovetron Tempest manual that just I received from WW8S is not
> the manual for this particular unit. The manual does match a few
> of the older Tempest units I have seen. Those units did have the
> regen board. Some of them have been on Ebay lately. Look for
> the 3-speed switch on the front panel.
>
> The parts inside seem to point to this unit as being late 80's
> vintage (datecodes). My guess is that these might have been
> used as "modems" in the simplest sense...maybe on VHF
> frequencies or even wirelines? The lack of the regenerator seems to
indicate
> the use wasn't for critical HF radio use. There is no
> military nomenclature label on my unit. I would also
> point out that there might be variations amongst the
> units that are being sent to everyone. So, the above is a
> guideline based upon the unit I received.
>
> My thanks to George and Dale for the hard work in getting
> these units for us. The Dovetrons are beautiful pieces of
> engineering and we should all have a great time with them.
>
> 73,
> Jack WA2HWJ
>
> NNNN
>
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