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   4. PAPER / TAPE - where to get (tony j. podrasky)
   5. TELETYPE paper/tape (tony j. podrasky)
   6. TELETYPE paper (tony j. podrasky)
   7. Re: PAPER / TAPE - where to get (Tadashi Ishimori)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 06:47:20 -0500 (EST)
From: cswiger <[email protected]>
To: Robert McConnell <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] Original meaning of ASCII codes

Tks - we've been studying a 1976 BASIC source and was wondering
about a ^T in the 'READY' string - NOW it makes sense. You turn
on the paper tape punch, list the program to tape, and BASIC
automatically switches off the punch before printing READY. I'll
have to run that by the author and see if he recalls that now.

	Chuck

Bonus: Pangrams (sentences with every character of the alphabet)
'pack my box with five dozen liquor jugs' has 32 letters
'the quick brown fox jumps over a lazy dog' has 33 letters
of course we don't want test messages that look like wholesale
orders for booze.

On Sun, 17 Nov 2002, Robert McConnell wrote:

> Good morning,
>
> I found this while searching for something else a few weeks ago. Some of
> you might find it useful.
>
>    DC4	14 ^T	device control 4 -- turn off the paper tape punch.
>
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Message: 2
From: "O. Warren" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 10:13:20 -0700
Subject: [GreenKeys] ASCII codes



Hi list....

I'm a retired Western Union Field Service Technician/"Tech Rep".
I went to W.U. school for all the various "Teletypes", from the Model 15 on,
excluding the Model 40 video/computer terminal..

They told us that the ASCII code system and the 33's and 35's were designed
to be a computer interface, in addition to being a teletype code and
function, and that only about 1/3rd of the possible ASCII codes had been
used in the model 33's and 35's!  Therefor, the "Escape" key was put there
to "escape" from teletype communications functions and enter into computer
functions as computer engineers might want to come up with.

The Control D disconnect function was put on these machines for a reason, .
Pushing the "end" or "disconnect" button on a TWX only had the function of
killing the outgoing data set (modem) tones which either the TWX or
telephone systems, whichever they were used on, would recognize as a carrier
loss, a malfunction, and cause a disconnect.  However this type of a
disconnect took a couple or three seconds, and couldn't be put intro the
tape nor set up as a pre set code.  The Control D function set up a
disconnect code function both in the tape and simultaneously set up machine
functions at each end to initiate the machine's disconnect simultaneously
from each end, which was instantious.  This speeded up the communications
process.

The ENQ was the same as a WRU key, which meant "Who Are you", which sent an
interrogation signal to the distant end which triggered it's "Answer back"
("music box?) system which identified the terminal at the distant end.
Contrary to the operator setting up this coding, this was a technician
function as the operator wasn't trained in this matter, didn't have the
ASCII code, lacked the "drum" where the code was programmed, and the
operator setting this up would risk voiding the maintenance contract with
the customer!  This "Answer Back" enabled "proof" that a message had
actually been received at the unattended distant end by exchanging "answer
backs" at both the beginning and end of the message, assuming that it had
sufficient paper to do the job, and that it's "paper out" compacts were
working to kill the incoming call if the paper ran out.

Control Z was a "End of File" indicator as is still used at the end of
computer programs, etc. This and NNNN (4 N's) was also an International
signal that disconnected the call and turned off the radios used to convey
the message in International radio message traffic.  This is (or was)
necessary with RCA, ITT, WUI, MacKay Radio to ships at sea, etc..

Dick, W7TIO


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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 13:36:59 -0600 (CST)
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: [GreenKeys] Some Documentation on ASCII

R. W. Bemer, "The American Standard Cord for Information Interchange",
DATAMATION, August 1963 p. 32 and September 1963 p. 39.

R. W. Bemer, "A View of the History of the ISO Character Code", Honeywell
Computer Journal, 1972, p. 274.

J. F. Auwaerter, "A New Standard Code for Teletypewriters", Bell 
Laboratories Record, date unknown.

Fred W. Smith, "New American Standard Code for Information Interchange",
Western Union Technical Review, April 1964, p. 50.

Fred W. Smith, "Revised U.S.A. Standard Cord for Information Interchange",
Western Union Technical Review, November 1967, p. 184.


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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 13:32:36 -0800
From: "tony j. podrasky" <[email protected]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Corporation - San Diego Division
To: RTTY E-MAIL GROUP <[email protected]>
Subject: [GreenKeys] PAPER / TAPE - where to get

Hey Guys;

Although I've been exposed to the WWW since its inception, I never stop
being amazed - when I use a search engine, and enter something "weird" -
and it comes up with sites:

Hummmm - I need Teletype Paper. I wonder where I can get some... How
'bout "Seach TELETYPE PAPER".

             BAM!

Here's a site that carries paper/tape/ribbons.

    <http://www.westnc.com/paptape.html>

73,
W6ESE / ex-WA2EAA
-- 
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       @         You become responsible, forever, for what you have
    hp.com       tamed.'"                -- Antoine De Saint-Exupery

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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 13:59:32 -0800
From: "tony j. podrasky" <[email protected]>
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To: RTTY E-MAIL GROUP <[email protected]>
Subject: [GreenKeys] TELETYPE paper/tape

OK - even better prices - and single rolls:

   
<http://www.servmart.org/index.cfm?action=cat.product&categoryid=1323>

regards,
tonyp

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     hp.com       | hard and how many times they have been pressed, 
                  | and adjust the traffic light accordingly.

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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 15:23:35 -0800
From: "tony j. podrasky" <[email protected]>
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Organization: Hewlett-Packard Corporation - San Diego Division
To: RTTY E-MAIL GROUP <[email protected]>
Subject: [GreenKeys] TELETYPE paper

OK - one last site! At $1.75/roll for Canary Yellow I just *HAD* to let
everyone know! They had 100 rolls - until I bought 2 cases...

    <http://www.sciplus.com/category.cfm?subsection=11&category=109>

73,
W6ESE / ex-WA2EAA

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From: "Tadashi Ishimori" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>,
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Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] PAPER / TAPE - where to get
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 09:18:56 +0900

Hi Tony,

You can find various paper rolls and tapes in 'Western Numerical Control'.
The WWW page is <http://www.westnc.com/paptape.html#tty>.

73's
Taddy / JK1VXE

> Hey Guys;
> 
> Although I've been exposed to the WWW since its inception, I never stop
> being amazed - when I use a search engine, and enter something "weird" -
> and it comes up with sites:
> 
> Hummmm - I need Teletype Paper. I wonder where I can get some... How
> 'bout "Seach TELETYPE PAPER".
> 
>              BAM!
> 
> Here's a site that carries paper/tape/ribbons.
> 
>     <http://www.westnc.com/paptape.html>
> 
> 73,
> W6ESE / ex-WA2EAA
> -- 
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>   tony.podrasky  forgotten this truth - but you must never forget it:
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Message: 8
From: "Tadashi Ishimori" <[email protected]>
To: "Tadashi Ishimori" <[email protected]>,
	<[email protected]>,
	"RTTY E-MAIL GROUP" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] PAPER / TAPE - where to get
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 09:34:00 +0900

Tony,

Very sorry but, you already found the WNC by youself.
I bought some papers from them few times and was provided
good service. The shipping cost to Japan is higher than the item
cost. hi

737s
Taddy / JK1VXE

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Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] PAPER / TAPE - where to get


> Hi Tony,
>
> You can find various paper rolls and tapes in 'Western Numerical Control'.
> The WWW page is <http://www.westnc.com/paptape.html#tty>.
>
> 73's
> Taddy / JK1VXE
>
> > Hey Guys;
> >
> > Although I've been exposed to the WWW since its inception, I never stop
> > being amazed - when I use a search engine, and enter something "weird" -
> > and it comes up with sites:
> >
> > Hummmm - I need Teletype Paper. I wonder where I can get some... How
> > 'bout "Seach TELETYPE PAPER".
> >
> >              BAM!
> >
> > Here's a site that carries paper/tape/ribbons.
> >
> >     <http://www.westnc.com/paptape.html>
> >
> > 73,
> > W6ESE / ex-WA2EAA
> > --
> > Tony J. Podrasky "And the fox said to the little prince:' Men have
> >   tony.podrasky  forgotten this truth - but you must never forget it:
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Subject: Re: [GreenKeys]  great spam killer
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 01:28:01 -0800

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     2. ASCII codes (O. Warren)
     3. Some Documentation on ASCII ([email protected])
     4. PAPER / TAPE - where to get (tony j. podrasky)
     5. TELETYPE paper/tape (tony j. podrasky)
     6. TELETYPE paper (tony j. podrasky)
     7. Re: PAPER / TAPE - where to get (Tadashi Ishimori)
     8. Re: PAPER / TAPE - where to get (Tadashi Ishimori)

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  Message: 1
  Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 06:47:20 -0500 (EST)
  From: cswiger <[email protected]>
  To: Robert McConnell <[email protected]>
  Cc: [email protected]
  Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] Original meaning of ASCII codes

  Tks - we've been studying a 1976 BASIC source and was wondering
  about a ^T in the 'READY' string - NOW it makes sense. You turn
  on the paper tape punch, list the program to tape, and BASIC
  automatically switches off the punch before printing READY. I'll
  have to run that by the author and see if he recalls that now.

  Chuck

  Bonus: Pangrams (sentences with every character of the alphabet)
  'pack my box with five dozen liquor jugs' has 32 letters
  'the quick brown fox jumps over a lazy dog' has 33 letters
  of course we don't want test messages that look like wholesale
  orders for booze.

  On Sun, 17 Nov 2002, Robert McConnell wrote:

  > Good morning,
  >
  > I found this while searching for something else a few weeks ago. =
Some of
  > you might find it useful.
  >
  >    DC4 14 ^T device control 4 -- turn off the paper tape punch.
  >
  >


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  Message: 2
  From: "O. Warren" <[email protected]>
  To: <[email protected]>
  Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 10:13:20 -0700
  Subject: [GreenKeys] ASCII codes



  Hi list....

  I'm a retired Western Union Field Service Technician/"Tech Rep".
  I went to W.U. school for all the various "Teletypes", from the Model =
15 on,
  excluding the Model 40 video/computer terminal..

  They told us that the ASCII code system and the 33's and 35's were =
designed
  to be a computer interface, in addition to being a teletype code and
  function, and that only about 1/3rd of the possible ASCII codes had =
been
  used in the model 33's and 35's!  Therefor, the "Escape" key was put =
there
  to "escape" from teletype communications functions and enter into =
computer
  functions as computer engineers might want to come up with.

  The Control D disconnect function was put on these machines for a =
reason, .
  Pushing the "end" or "disconnect" button on a TWX only had the =
function of
  killing the outgoing data set (modem) tones which either the TWX or
  telephone systems, whichever they were used on, would recognize as a =
carrier
  loss, a malfunction, and cause a disconnect.  However this type of a
  disconnect took a couple or three seconds, and couldn't be put intro =
the
  tape nor set up as a pre set code.  The Control D function set up a
  disconnect code function both in the tape and simultaneously set up =
machine
  functions at each end to initiate the machine's disconnect =
simultaneously
  from each end, which was instantious.  This speeded up the =
communications
  process.

  The ENQ was the same as a WRU key, which meant "Who Are you", which =
sent an
  interrogation signal to the distant end which triggered it's "Answer =
back"
  ("music box?) system which identified the terminal at the distant end.
  Contrary to the operator setting up this coding, this was a technician
  function as the operator wasn't trained in this matter, didn't have =
the
  ASCII code, lacked the "drum" where the code was programmed, and the
  operator setting this up would risk voiding the maintenance contract =
with
  the customer!  This "Answer Back" enabled "proof" that a message had
  actually been received at the unattended distant end by exchanging =
"answer
  backs" at both the beginning and end of the message, assuming that it =
had
  sufficient paper to do the job, and that it's "paper out" compacts =
were
  working to kill the incoming call if the paper ran out.

  Control Z was a "End of File" indicator as is still used at the end of
  computer programs, etc. This and NNNN (4 N's) was also an =
International
  signal that disconnected the call and turned off the radios used to =
convey
  the message in International radio message traffic.  This is (or was)
  necessary with RCA, ITT, WUI, MacKay Radio to ships at sea, etc..

  Dick, W7TIO


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  Message: 3
  Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 13:36:59 -0600 (CST)
  From: [email protected]
  To: [email protected]
  Subject: [GreenKeys] Some Documentation on ASCII

  R. W. Bemer, "The American Standard Cord for Information Interchange",
  DATAMATION, August 1963 p. 32 and September 1963 p. 39.

  R. W. Bemer, "A View of the History of the ISO Character Code", =
Honeywell
  Computer Journal, 1972, p. 274.

  J. F. Auwaerter, "A New Standard Code for Teletypewriters", Bell=20
  Laboratories Record, date unknown.

  Fred W. Smith, "New American Standard Code for Information =
Interchange",
  Western Union Technical Review, April 1964, p. 50.

  Fred W. Smith, "Revised U.S.A. Standard Cord for Information =
Interchange",
  Western Union Technical Review, November 1967, p. 184.


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  Message: 4
  Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 13:32:36 -0800
  From: "tony j. podrasky" <[email protected]>
  Reply-To: [email protected]
  Organization: Hewlett-Packard Corporation - San Diego Division
  To: RTTY E-MAIL GROUP <[email protected]>
  Subject: [GreenKeys] PAPER / TAPE - where to get

  Hey Guys;

  Although I've been exposed to the WWW since its inception, I never =
stop
  being amazed - when I use a search engine, and enter something "weird" =
-
  and it comes up with sites:

  Hummmm - I need Teletype Paper. I wonder where I can get some... How
  'bout "Seach TELETYPE PAPER".

               BAM!

  Here's a site that carries paper/tape/ribbons.

      <http://www.westnc.com/paptape.html>

  73,
  W6ESE / ex-WA2EAA
  --=20
  Tony J. Podrasky "And the fox said to the little prince:' Men have
    tony.podrasky  forgotten this truth - but you must never forget it:
         @         You become responsible, forever, for what you have
      hp.com       tamed.'"                -- Antoine De Saint-Exupery

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  Message: 5
  Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 13:59:32 -0800
  From: "tony j. podrasky" <[email protected]>
  Reply-To: [email protected]
  Organization: Hewlett-Packard Corporation - San Diego Division
  To: RTTY E-MAIL GROUP <[email protected]>
  Subject: [GreenKeys] TELETYPE paper/tape

  OK - even better prices - and single rolls:

    =20
  =
<http://www.servmart.org/index.cfm?action=3Dcat.product&categoryid=3D1323=
>

  regards,
  tonyp

  --=20
  Tony J. Podrasky  | You know those little buttons you press to cross=20
    tony.podrasky   | the street at an intersection? Well, regardless=20
         @          | what you have been told they *do* react to how=20
       hp.com       | hard and how many times they have been pressed,=20
                    | and adjust the traffic light accordingly.

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  Message: 6
  Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 15:23:35 -0800
  From: "tony j. podrasky" <[email protected]>
  Reply-To: [email protected]
  Organization: Hewlett-Packard Corporation - San Diego Division
  To: RTTY E-MAIL GROUP <[email protected]>
  Subject: [GreenKeys] TELETYPE paper

  OK - one last site! At $1.75/roll for Canary Yellow I just *HAD* to =
let
  everyone know! They had 100 rolls - until I bought 2 cases...

      =
<http://www.sciplus.com/category.cfm?subsection=3D11&category=3D109>

  73,
  W6ESE / ex-WA2EAA

  --=20
  Tony J. Podrasky     Walkin' down this rocky road
    tony.podrasky      Wonderin' where my life is leading.
         @             Rolling on, to the bitter end.
       hp.com                                 -Bad Company

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  Message: 7
  From: "Tadashi Ishimori" <[email protected]>
  To: <[email protected]>,
  "RTTY E-MAIL GROUP" <[email protected]>
  Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] PAPER / TAPE - where to get
  Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 09:18:56 +0900

  Hi Tony,

  You can find various paper rolls and tapes in 'Western Numerical =
Control'.
  The WWW page is <http://www.westnc.com/paptape.html#tty>.

  73's
  Taddy / JK1VXE

  > Hey Guys;
  >=20
  > Although I've been exposed to the WWW since its inception, I never =
stop
  > being amazed - when I use a search engine, and enter something =
"weird" -
  > and it comes up with sites:
  >=20
  > Hummmm - I need Teletype Paper. I wonder where I can get some... How
  > 'bout "Seach TELETYPE PAPER".
  >=20
  >              BAM!
  >=20
  > Here's a site that carries paper/tape/ribbons.
  >=20
  >     <http://www.westnc.com/paptape.html>
  >=20
  > 73,
  > W6ESE / ex-WA2EAA
  > --=20
  > Tony J. Podrasky "And the fox said to the little prince:' Men have
  >   tony.podrasky  forgotten this truth - but you must never forget =
it:
  >        @         You become responsible, forever, for what you have
  >     hp.com       tamed.'"                -- Antoine De Saint-Exupery
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  Message: 8
  From: "Tadashi Ishimori" <[email protected]>
  To: "Tadashi Ishimori" <[email protected]>,
  <[email protected]>,
  "RTTY E-MAIL GROUP" <[email protected]>
  Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] PAPER / TAPE - where to get
  Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 09:34:00 +0900

  Tony,

  Very sorry but, you already found the WNC by youself.
  I bought some papers from them few times and was provided
  good service. The shipping cost to Japan is higher than the item
  cost. hi

  737s
  Taddy / JK1VXE

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  From: "Tadashi Ishimori" <[email protected]>
  To: <[email protected]>; "RTTY E-MAIL GROUP" =
<[email protected]>
  Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 9:18 AM
  Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] PAPER / TAPE - where to get


  > Hi Tony,
  >
  > You can find various paper rolls and tapes in 'Western Numerical =
Control'.
  > The WWW page is <http://www.westnc.com/paptape.html#tty>.
  >
  > 73's
  > Taddy / JK1VXE
  >
  > > Hey Guys;
  > >
  > > Although I've been exposed to the WWW since its inception, I never =
stop
  > > being amazed - when I use a search engine, and enter something =
"weird" -
  > > and it comes up with sites:
  > >
  > > Hummmm - I need Teletype Paper. I wonder where I can get some... =
How
  > > 'bout "Seach TELETYPE PAPER".
  > >
  > >              BAM!
  > >
  > > Here's a site that carries paper/tape/ribbons.
  > >
  > >     <http://www.westnc.com/paptape.html>
  > >
  > > 73,
  > > W6ESE / ex-WA2EAA
  > > --
  > > Tony J. Podrasky "And the fox said to the little prince:' Men have
  > >   tony.podrasky  forgotten this truth - but you must never forget =
it:
  > >        @         You become responsible, forever, for what you =
have
  > >     hp.com       tamed.'"                -- Antoine De =
Saint-Exupery
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