[GreenKeys] Fwd: RE: Model 32TAM

Thu, 23 May 2002 13:40:55 -0400

Well that conversion was what I used to do, a long time ago...
Conversions to standard 32RO and to 33RO.
I still have a few in storage, in some state.
What wish I had saved was some of the message generators, but I think =
they are all scrap by now.

              Les

-----Original Message-----
From: Don Robert House [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 1:26 PM
To: Veenstra, Lester B.
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: [GreenKeys] Fwd: RE: Model 32TAM

FASCINATING - sadly I think this 32TAM has been converted to a 33 RO.=20
Do any of these still exist?

Don

>Subject: RE: Model 32TAM
>Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 07:37:09 -0400
>Thread-Topic: Model 32TAM
>Thread-Index: AcIB7uQBS67VN9ZCRvmRNzHZcrv7jwAXbZ5Q
>From: "Veenstra, Lester B." <[email protected]>
>To: "Don Robert House" <[email protected]>
>X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 May 2002 11:37:05.0959 (UTC)=20
>FILETIME=3D[2A43DB70:01C2024E]
>
>It was for a Best Western Motel reservations service. The data=20
>source was an electromechanical device that had a bank of character=20
>generators that allowed the clerk to generate a single line message.=20
>Each character was designated with a pull down mechanical system=20
>that moved a loop of encoded film. On the users side of the film was=20
>displayed, via a single character high window, the selected=20
>alphanumeric character. On the back side there was optical reader=20
>that looked at a digital encoded character. The unique key the code=20
>set was the movement of the message encoding loop. As the operator=20
>moved it one character, say from A to B, the data side of the tape=20
>moved one bit position. Thus, if you look at the 5 bit character=20
>codes, sorted alphabetically, you will see the bit pattern from one=20
>to the next is a single bit shift. The agent would compose a line of=20
>message, push a button, and a scanner would move along the back of=20
>the individual character modules, picking off the message and=20
>converting it to a async serial stream.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Don Robert House [mailto:[email protected]]
>Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 8:15 PM
>To: Veenstra, Lester B.
>Cc: [email protected]
>Subject: RE: Model 32TAM
>
>
>Les,
>
>I am not sure which code set this model has.  I have not taken much
>time to look at it.
>Who used the TAM code set anyway?
>
>Thanks,
>Don
>
>
>
>
>>I used to turn 32TAM's in 32 and 33 RO's.
>>Not much call for the code set in the 32TAM.
>>                 Les
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Don Robert House [mailto:[email protected]]
>>Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 12:06 PM
>>To: Veenstra, Lester B.
>>Cc: [email protected]
>>Subject: RE: [GreenKeys] RE: Model 33 vs Model 12
>>
>>
>>Yes, the 32TAM is very interesting.  A response to certain customers
>>demands.  We have one of those in the RO configuration.  The 32 was
>>more reliable than the 33 because most of them ran at 60 or 66 wpm.
>>The problem with the 33s was having all of the contacts,  keyboard,
>>reader and answerback in parallel.  Troubles would come and go
>>depending on the vibrations of the machine.  Later designs provided
>>for plastic combs that helped keep the contacts from bouncing.
>>
>>These machines were inexpensive to build and install but took more
>>time to maintain.  The Bell System quit using the Model 26 for the
>>same reason.  Technician time and customer out of service time is
>>very expensive.  Had we been able to utilize the 33 as a light duty
>>machine everything would have been OK
>>
>>Don
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>The first HAM rtty system I saw was a Model 12. Of course he had to
>>>operate 6 meters to get away from all the RFI it generated on HF.
>  >>Glad to hear you still have one operational. I was afraid none had
>  >>kept one going.
>  >>
>  >>I used to rebuild 32TAM as well as all usual forms of 32 and 33.
>  >>Never did meet one that was reduced to the "throwaway" point that
>>>was ostensibly one of the families selling points.
>>>
>>>73
>>>    Les
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Don Robert House [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 11:31 AM
>>>To: Veenstra, Lester B.
>>>Cc: [email protected]
>>>Subject: [GreenKeys] RE: Model 33 vs Model 12
>>>
>>>
>>>At 11:09 AM -0400 5/22/02, Veenstra, Lester B. wrote:
>>>>Real men use Model 12's
>>>>
>>>
>>>Yes, the model 12 is a beauty.  It is the first machine we will be
>>>restoring for display at CMA in San Diego. Ours is an Associated
>>>Press machine delivered in 1934.
>>>
>>>Real technicians and engineers also like the 14,15, 19, 20, 26, 31,
>  >>35, 37, 40, 45, 53 and 54 models.
>>>Just stay away from the 242, 32, 33, and 38 models. Cute to look at
>>>but not to run.
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>Don
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