[GreenKeys] RE: FBI Teletypes

Mon, 1 Jul 2002 06:40:54 -0700

I use the NLETS system at work, it's really just a system of dumb terminals.
When I started working at the Sheriff's office I was excited when they told
me I would send a request by teletype. You can imagine my disappointment
when they led me to that CRT monitor! Then, they still use the term
"teletype" when referring to some specific documents (likely computer
generated now) that, at one time, was probably sent by teletype. Funny how
the term stuck with one report but not anything else they do. I cringe
whenever I hear "here's a teletype for you" and they hand me that piece of
paper! I don't care how it got here, if it's not on yellow ragged paper,
it's not teletype to me! They are not PC's (no hard drive, etc.) just a
monitor and specialized keyboard allowing you to send and receive info from
other locations (our incoming messages are routed directly to a printer)
using their equivalent of a Routing Indicator. Of course, things could be
different elsewhere, I have a pretty limited exposure to the system.

I would like to know more about the government use of the old machines for
EMP blast protection. Was that a television special or something that may be
repeated?

Sherry

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>    1. FBI still using teletypes?? (Henry Minsky)
>    2. Re: FBI still using teletypes?? (Jack)
>    3. Re: FBI still using teletypes?? (cswiger)
>    4. Re: Allegiance (Robert McConnell)
>    5. Re: FBI still using teletypes?? (Don Robert House)
>    6. Fwd: UK Teletype machine for preservation (Don Robert House)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2002 09:29:58 -0400
> To: [email protected]
> From: Henry Minsky <[email protected]>
> Subject: [GreenKeys] FBI still using teletypes??
>
> I saw this in an article in today's New York Times:
>
>
> "The bureau has also been working on modernizing its warning
> system, known
> as the National Law Enforcement Telecommunications System, or
> Nlets. Under
> this method, the bureau sends alerts by teletype to one agency in each
> state, rather than by electronic message to 18,000 state and local law
> enforcement agencies. That agency then passes the message along by
> electronic communications, including e-mail, to local law enforcement
> agencies.
> "
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>
>
> Do they really still use teletypes?
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> Message: 2
> From: "Jack" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>, "Henry Minsky" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] FBI still using teletypes??
> Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2002 09:44:55 -0400
>
> The word "teletype" is still used whenever law enforcement
> folks pull info from their databases. Most of their systems are
> linked with PC's and associated printers. I highly doubt they
> use the mechanical clunkers.
>
> However, a few years ago there was some discussion about the
> Government setting up alternate systems that were impervious to
> a nuclear EMP blast. But, nowadays, I guess we have to worry
> about other types of threats...
>
> Jack WA2HWJ
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2002 11:13:33 -0400 (EDT)
> From: cswiger <[email protected]>
> To: TTY Friends <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] FBI still using teletypes??
>
>
> Some terms do go on - I just checked the 2002 yellow pages
> under automobile parts, used, and at least one still
> advertises "Free Teletype Service", just like the truckers
> union is the Teamsters, altho hardly any of them has ever
> driven a team of horses.
>
> 	Chuck
> 	kb4new
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> On Sun, 30 Jun 2002, Jack wrote:
>
> > The word "teletype" is still used whenever law enforcement
> > folks pull info from their databases. Most of their systems are
> > linked with PC's and associated printers. I highly doubt they
> > use the mechanical clunkers.
> >
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2002 15:23:35 -0700
> To: Don Robert House <[email protected]>
> From: Robert McConnell <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] Allegiance
> Cc: [email protected]
>
> At 6/29/02 09:24 PM -0700, you wrote:
> >Please forgive me for the off subject material...
> >
> >ALLEGIANCE
> >by Don Robert House
> >
> >One evening in Indianapolis I had the pleasure and honor of
> listening to,
> >and meeting one of my favorite fellow Americans.  This man had me
> >laughing, crying, and I found myself more deeply impressed with the
> >insight, intelligence and talent of Mr. Red Skelton, PhD.  All of us can
> >remember the different forms of humor Red Skelton has made
> famous, but how
> >many are aware of the artist, the composer, and the very caring
> person he
> >is.   One lasting impression he made on me is his interpretation of the
> >Pledge of Allegiance.  In the following lines I will do my best to
> >transcribe Mr. Skelton's words...
>
> Hi Don,
>
> Last fall, after the events of 9/11/02, someone posted, into a newsgroup,
> an MP3 audio file of Mr. Skelton doing this sketch. It takes just four
> minutes, and is 1.9MB long. If anyone wants me to email them a
> copy, send a
> message directly to me, not to this list. I used to have a link to a web
> site where it was available, but I lost that in a disk crash.
>
> There are entertainers, and there are great men and women. There
> are just a
> few that come to mind that have done more for this great country than we
> can ever repay. We will never again see the like of Red Skelton,
> Bob Hope,
> Kate Smith, George M. Cohan or Glenn Miller. I only hope others will be
> around to do their job for the next generation of soldiers and sailors.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Bob McConnell
> Ex-RM2, USN, Vietnam Combat Veteran
> N2SPP
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2002 16:46:52 -0700
> To: Henry Minsky <[email protected]>
> From: Don Robert House <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] FBI still using teletypes??
> Cc: [email protected]
>
> >I saw this in an article in today's New York Times:
> >
> >"The bureau has also been working on modernizing its warning system,
> >known as the National Law Enforcement Telecommunications System, or
> >Nlets. Under this method, the bureau sends alerts by teletype to one
> >agency in each state, rather than by electronic message to 18,000
> >state and local law enforcement agencies. That agency then passes
> >the message along by electronic communications, including e-mail, to
> >local law enforcement agencies.
> >"
>
> I would think they would use FAX.
> Don
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2002 17:08:46 -0700
> To: Sam Hallas <[email protected]>,
> 	"Craig Sawyers" <[email protected]>
> From: Don Robert House <[email protected]>
> Cc: [email protected], [email protected]
> Subject: [GreenKeys] Fwd: UK Teletype machine for preservation
>
> >Note: forwarded message attached.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Return-Path: <[email protected]>
> >Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2002 17:31:37 +0100
> >From: Cheryl Williams <[email protected]>
> >Reply-To: [email protected]
> >Organization: Netscape Online member
> >Subject: Teletype machine for preservation
> >
> >Hi,
> >
> >I have a Teletype model 33 TBP that I need to get rid of. I have had
> >this for years and obtained it as part of a deal when I bought a
> >Commodore VIC 20 many moons ago. The unit is (I believe) in full working
> >order.
> >
> >Would you be aware of anyone in the UK who might be interested in
> >preserving this unit. If so could you please forward details to me
> >a.s.a.p.
> >
> regards, Ed Williams
>
> >please reply to [email protected]
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