[GCARC] More Field Day info

[JOHN CZUBA]

I think we  discussed this enough . Let's put this matter to rest. Let just think radio. 
John, K2AEN 
On Saturday, February 27, 2021 jad skaf <jadskaf at gmail.com> wrote:
I am new. I missed the beginning of this conversation, but here are my two
cents. As an immigrant and now a citizen who voted in three presidential
runs, I'm sorry but trump won. The banana elections were similar to what I
experience back home (middle east) and its a joke that will never wash .
Never let them silence you. Now that I've said my piece/peace, I am all for
keeping it civil... Radio is a science and a hobby. so let's enjoy it.
Can anyone help direct me to taking the license exams? Can I take them
online? I've been studying hard.

On Sat, Feb 27, 2021, 11:48 AM Bill S via GCARC <gcarc at mailman.qth.net>
wrote:

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>    On Friday, February 26, 2021, 10:25:00 PM EST, Christopher Wawak <
> chris at wawak.org> wrote:
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> On Fri, Feb 26, 2021 at 9:50 PM Bill S <billszk2004 at yahoo.com> wrote:
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> I agreed that politics is not appropriate for this venue of Field Day.
> That is no excuse for limiting speech.
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> What are you saying here? Is politics inappropriate or is there no excuse
> for limiting speech?
> My statement stands on its own.
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> If you read Vinnie's email his personal views appear to be the
> overwhelming reason for his dictatorial approach to handling what he
> believes to be spewing politics.
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> What views? There were no views shared, except to keep a radio thing radio.
>  I quote Vinnie: "I'll be damned if I am going to have" Sounds pretty
> personal to me.
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> Yes, you are correct GCARC is not a government entity nor Vinnie a
> government official. This does not give GCARC or any member the right to
> dictate what any other member can discuss or "spew". Everyone does have a
> right to walk away.
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> Yes it does. The Supreme Court voted that first amendment constraints
> don’t apply to private platforms: MANHATTAN COMMUNITY ACCESS CORP. ET AL.
> v. HALLECK ET AL
> No it does not. The fact that first amendment does not apply to the
> private platforms does not give GCARC the right to limit my FREEDOM of
> SPEECH. One has nothing to do with the other.
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> Your strict interpretation of the Constitution and the Amendment does not
> preclude me or anyone else from speaking up when my ability to speak is
> being imposed upon. The spirit of the First Amendment is what every Veteran
> served to defend.
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> You’re free to speak up, but when you do so people may not want to hear
> what you’ve got to say. You can be asked to leave. The spirit of the first
> amendment has nothing to do with giving you a venue for spouting off
> garbage. It has to do with protecting people from being persecution by the
> government because of what they do think or say.
> Thank you for that allowance. And I am not hear to force anyone to listen
> to anything I have said. I did not ask for a venue and I rarely spout
> garbage. I do not even know what the catalyst was for Vinnies email. I for
> one only spout to the choir not the general audience. But, I will defend
> the rights of any individual to speak and any individual to not have to
> listen. No matter their sex, religion, race or political leanings.
> I do not know anyone that makes the distinction and argues that I don't
> have the right to free speech simply because I am not operating  at the
> government level.
> No one made that assertion. I am saying you don’t have the right to bother
> people who don’t want to hear political drivel at a field day event.
> You in fact did with this statement: "Vinnie's rules don't violate the
> first amendment because GCARC is not a government entity, and Vinnie is
> CERTAINLY not part of Congress. Only a government entity or representative
> can violate a person's first amendment rights.
>
> We can continue to parse this discussion but here is my bottom line.
> Every American citizen of this great country has the
> reasonable expectation of FREEDOM of SPEECH.  Venue, forum, circumstance or
> condition notwithstanding.
> In my mind it matters not if it is the Federal, State or Local
> government or a loosely amalgamated group of people in a club that
> attempt to limit that expectation and yes, dare I say RIGHT.
> Duty,Honor,Country.
> 73 BillW4WCS
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