[GCARC] FW: K2AA is operating the Pandemic Class 7E - Extended area operations

Fri May 22 21:51:36 EDT 2020

Tony,
Welcome back to the fold! Remember, it always better to inside the tent pissing out than outside the tent pissing in! 
On a more serious note, this is a very unusual time. You'd think the league would show more flexibility to ensure participation, particularly given the age demographic of the membership. There's a good portion of us (including moi) who are in the Covid 19 danger zone.
Too bad. We'll see where we are in a couple of weeks.
D.  

-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Starr <tstarr1450 at gmail.com>
To: Vinnie Sallustio <yankees_1996 at hotmail.com>
Cc: gcarc at mailman.qth.net <gcarc at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Wed, May 20, 2020 10:58 pm
Subject: Re: [GCARC] FW: K2AA is operating the Pandemic Class 7E - Extended area operations

Vinnie,

Yes, they surely do!  I had let my ARRL membership expire years ago, and
every time I would think about re-applying for membership, they would do
something to seriously piss me off.  This went on for about five years,
until a couple of weeks ago, when I realized that it had been a while since
they pissed me off.  So I signed up again, for a two year membership.
Before I even got my first issue of QST, they have managed to piss me off
twice in two weeks!  Serves me right for being gullible,  I got what I
deserved. But at least now I can bitch at them again!

Tony WA2FZB

On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 10:47 PM Vinnie Sallustio <yankees_1996 at hotmail.com>
wrote:

> The ARRL sometimes has it's head up its ass. This is one of those cases.
>
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> ________________________________
> From: Agustin Neron Properties LLC <ab2e at comcast.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 10:39:58 PM
> To: Vinnie Sallustio <yankees_1996 at hotmail.com>; gcarc at mailman.qth.net <
> gcarc at mailman.qth.net>; djgrath1 <djgrath1 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [GCARC] FW: K2AA is operating the Pandemic Class 7E -
> Extended area operations
>
> Hi All,
> Unknown to me, a number of requests to change the rules this year have
> already been made and rejected by the powers that be at ARRL.
> This was confirmed in the email I received back from Hudson ARRL Director
> N2RJ Ria Jairam tonigh.
> 73 Darrell AB2E
>
> "rjairam at gmail.com
> Wed 5/20/2020 10:08 PM
> Reply
> I am sorry but despite my and several other Directors repeated pleas
> to have the rules amended to allow these kinds of operations, the ARRL
> Programs and Services Committee remained firm on its decision to not
> change the rules, period. There is simply not majority support to
> amend the rules for this year.
>
> At this point I am telling clubs to find creative and innovative ways
> to operate. This includes internet or wifi remote bases set up at
> field day sites. Note that the transmitters and antennas have to be
> within 1000 feet but NOT the operators.
>
> There will be a non-ARRL tally of affiliated club scores. I was told
> that ARRL may make a CSV of the scores available with club names.
> However, club rankings won't be published in QST.
>
> 73
> Ria
> N2RJ    "
> > On May 20, 2020 at 8:39 PM Agustin Neron Properties LLC <
> ab2e at comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Vinnie,
> > All your points in Plan A sound viable and workable.
> > Checking with the Chief of Police and perhaps requesting permission in
> writing well in advance would be good.
> > Maybe setup helpers could start signing up with the FD chairman?
> > Like Vinnie's point #4, we can only have serious helpers this year, and
> casual visitors have to be discouraged.
> >
> > Another question relating to Vinnie's points 3 & 5. It sounds like
> stations spread out will not count towards the 10 person gathering, only
> the clubhouse occupants? I think we could argue that the operating stations
> are far enough apart that they fully comply with social distancing.
> >
> > OK 73, Darrell AB2E
> >
> > > On May 20, 2020 at 7:59 PM Vinnie Sallustio <yankees_1996 at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Plan A:
> > >
> > > I think we can still have it at the club site. But we have to change
> the parameters. My suggestions are:
> > >
> > > 1. Not public. We close it to the public. No public information table
> and no visitors that are not associated with the club.
> > >
> > > 2. Bring your own food. We can no way distubute food. Each station is
> responsible for their own food.
> > >
> > > 3. No more than 4 people in the clubhouse, that is Jeff Garth + 3
> people. This includes anyone that is on the tank.
> > >
> > > 4. If you are not contributing to Field Day, stay home. Contributing
> means assisting in antenna raising, operating, tent raising, etc. This
> won't be a problem if we are not serving food because many people just come
> to eat, and do nothing else. Not even helping Jeff to clean up.
> > >
> > > 5. Each station stays separate to keep within the 10 people limit.
> Usually, there is a lot of visiting between station members just to shoot
> the shit. This won't be able to happen.
> > >
> > > 6. Make sure the the police are OK with this so they don't shut us
> down after everything is set up.
> > >
> > >
> > > Plan B:
> > >
> > > I like Darryl's plan where we operate from home with each station at a
> band/mode. If the ARRL will accept us working under the W2MMD umbrella as
> an Echo station.
> > >
> > > I also am suggesting special W2MMD phonetics:  Wuhan 2 Malaria Malaria
> Donald
> > >
> > > VINNIE N4NYY
> > >
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> on behalf of djgrath1 <djgrath1 at gmail.com>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 6:05:18 PM
> > > To: gcarc at mailman.qth.net <gcarc at mailman.qth.net>
> > > Subject: [GCARC] FW: K2AA is operating the Pandemic Class 7E -
> Extended area operations
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > D. Jeffrey Garth
> > >
> > > 621 Greenbriar Drive
> > >
> > > Williamstown, NJ 08094-1149
> > >
> > > 73, WB2ZBN
> > >
> > > Club Publications
> > >
> > > www.w2mmd.org<http://www.w2mmd.org>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Choose a job you love, and you will never have to work a day in your
> life"
> > > - Confucius
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: ken at k2wb.com [mailto:ken at k2wb.com]
> > > Sent: May 20, 2020 17:26
> > > To: info at mikeandkey.org; w2mmdgcarc at gmail.com; ab1oc at arrl.net;
> > > k5eok at k5eok.org; fieldday at frrl.org; w9dup at w9dup.org; kc0alc at arrl.net;
> > > k8uo at arrl.net; webmaster at w6trw.com; w8ctm at yahoo.com; w4hfh at arrl.net;
> > > qrz at snars.org; president at w7gra.org; webmaster at larc.ca;
> mvbanks at gmail.com;
> > > WA2BSP at gmail.com; k2dfe at yahoo.com; WA2VYA Frank
> > > Cc: 'SJRA Harmonics Email Distribution'; 'Abernethy, Tom, W3TOM (Dir,
> AT)';
> > > 'Tom Preiser (N2XW)'
> > > Subject: K2AA is operating the Pandemic Class 7E - Extended area
> operations
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Dear Fellow Field Day Operations,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > My name is Ken K2WB of the South Jersey Radio Association (aka K2AA &
> SJRA)
> > > Field Day Chairperson,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The ARRL Field Day is an emergency preparedness drill. With this
> current
> > > "Emergency" that we find ourselves, does not fit the types of
> emergencies we
> > > have been preparing for. With social distancing rules and paranoia the
> SJRA
> > > finds itself in an interesting situation.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Our FD operation brings out over 60 people to help, setup, operate and
> take
> > > down. Our operation shelters would easily violate the 6 foot rule.
> Lastly
> > > our state (New Jersey) would have to drop the rule of not allowing
> public
> > > gatherings of more than 10 people. This all has to happen prior to
> Field
> > > Day.  Even if we are allowed to congregate in public we think that a
> lot of
> > > our support would not show up trying to be safe.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The SJRA determined that we would not learn anything on how to
> communicate &
> > > coordinate as a group in this type of emergency just by operating as
> bunch
> > > of 1D or 1A stations listing our club affiliation.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Here is our plan B:
> > >
> > > *      Operate as (in our case) 7E. We are not going to follow the
> 1000 ft
> > > circle rule but will follow the 175mi Radius club rule instead.
> > > *      Coordinate operating as K2AA on 7 bands and modes from as many
> > > member home stations as possible. All stations would have written
> permission
> > > to operate as K2AA from the trustee and will follow all FCC rules and
> > > regulations.
> > > *      All transmitters and receivers will be powered by emergency
> power
> > > (which keeps us in the "E" category). Still using your home antennas,
> > > shelter and allows us to contact all station categories. In accordance
> to
> > > the Field Day "E" category rule.
> > > *      Use our Repeater and Zoom to coordinate operations throughout
> the 24
> > > hours.
> > > *      Get as many bonus points as practical, keeping the spirit of
> the
> > > Field Day.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Our 7E submission to the ARRL will clearly state that we purposely
> broke the
> > > 1000ft rule and to use our log as a check log.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Things to know: N1MM supports large area linked logs (just like a LAN)
> which
> > > will make it easier to see what is going on. We have done some
> preliminary
> > > testing and found it stable for 4 days with only a couple of computers
> in 2
> > > locations 40 miles apart. It is our plan to increase and test more
> stations
> > > prior to Field Day.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I would be interested if others could share your ideas or plans. So
> far this
> > > is the best we could come up with. If there is enough interest I would
> be
> > > happy to host a WebEx meeting for further discussion or share what we
> > > learned.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > We hope to work all of you during Field Day. (7E SNJ)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Good luck and be safe!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Please feel free to forward this email to other clubs that you think
> would
> > > be interested in this idea or may have ideas of their own.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 73's
> > >
> > > de Ken K2WB
> > >
> > >
> > >  <mailto:ken at k2wb.com> ken at k2wb.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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