[FoxHunt] FoxHunt Digest, Vol 83, Issue 6

Tue Apr 4 20:51:03 EDT 2023

ARDF, now commonly called 'radio orienteering' is standardized at
ardf-usa at googlegroups.com.  The US Championships will be in Texas later
this month. We are no longer changing the group each year.

Ruth Bromer

On Mon, Apr 3, 2023, 10:56 PM <foxhunt-request at mailman.qth.net> wrote:

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>    1. Re: Activity (Mike (KA5CVH) Urich)
>    2. Re: Activity (Joe)
>    3. Re: Activity (Jay Hennigan)
>    4. Re: Activity (Facility 406)
>    5. Sonoma Hamfest and Foxhunt (Mike Miller)
>    6. Re: FoxHunt Digest, Vol 83, Issue 5 (Larry)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2023 19:28:14 -0500
> From: "Mike (KA5CVH) Urich" <mike at ka5cvh.com>
> To: Radio Direction Finding <foxhunt at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [FoxHunt] Activity
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> Roger Roger ...
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> On Sun, Apr 2, 2023, 19:19 Joe <nss at mwt.net> wrote:
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> > Is anyone here at all anymore?
> >
> > Joe WB9SBD
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2023 19:33:31 -0500
> From: Joe <nss at mwt.net>
> To: foxhunt at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [FoxHunt] Activity
> Message-ID: <4b0fb6e7-6eca-cb2a-bb64-b7d61ad94936 at mwt.net>
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> Huh?
> I re-subscribed because I wasn't getting any messages. but it says I was
> already subscribed.
>
> I can't remember the last time I got a message tho.
>
> I'm looking for help.
>
> I have a neat 3 ele quad for 2 meters. I want to make, the modeling
> shows about 9 db gain. but it was optimized for max F to B and it's at
> 40 db!
>
> What I want to do is cut off the coax too like with all the ferrite beads.
>
> The coax will be 58 in size.
>
> So wondering what beads would provide the best cut off for 2 meters.
>
> Joe WB9SBD
>
>
> On 4/2/2023 7:28 PM, Mike (KA5CVH) Urich wrote:
> > Roger Roger ...
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 2, 2023, 19:19 Joe<nss at mwt.net>  wrote:
> >
> >> Is anyone here at all anymore?
> >>
> >> Joe WB9SBD
> >> ______________________________________________________________
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2023 17:23:16 -0700
> From: Jay Hennigan <jay at west.net>
> To: foxhunt at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [FoxHunt] Activity
> Message-ID: <994b7bea-90fe-d34d-31f4-07468caf7d1d at west.net>
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> On 4/2/23 17:19, Joe wrote:
> > Is anyone here at all anymore?
>
> Yes. One problem is that for the past several years, every time there
> was a new US Championship event someone would create a new listserv and
> people would go there. This had the tendency of fragmenting the
> community. As email addresses change various people would lose contact
> from the older lists.
>
> --
> Jay Hennigan - jay at west.net
> Network Engineering - CCIE #7880
> 503 897-8550 - WB6RDV
>
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2023 18:07:18 -0700
> From: Facility 406 <facility_406 at bruteforcedevelopment.com>
> To: Radio Direction Finding <foxhunt at mailman.qth.net>, Joe
>         <nss at mwt.net>
> Subject: Re: [FoxHunt] Activity
> Message-ID:
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> On 4/2/2023 17:19, Joe wrote:
> > Is anyone here at all anymore?
>
> I am.
>
> I'm on about four dozen QTH.net forums, and about 120 on groups.io,
> receiving up to a few hundred email per day, still.
>
> Not sure why some died off, and miss a few from Yahoo that never picked
> up elsewhere...
>
> Kurt
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2023 18:57:52 -0700
> From: Mike Miller <moon_valley at vom.com>
> To: Radio Direction Finding <foxhunt at mailman.qth.net>,
>         homingin at aol.com
> Subject: [FoxHunt] Sonoma Hamfest and Foxhunt
> Message-ID: <68d2526f-e7b5-9a9a-2e26-8e798b283706 at vom.com>
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> The Valley of the Moon Amateur Radio Club is hosting our annual Hamfest
> in Sonoma, CA Saturday, April 22.
>
> There will be a beginner's walking foxhunt.? A two meter fox transmitter
> will be hidden within 100 meters of the building.
>
> Additionally, there will be:
>
>  ?* a pancake breakfast, with eggs and sausage (the club's annual fund
>  ?? raiser)
>  ?* a Swap Meet with all kinds of new and used amateur radio equipment
>  ?* a VE session where prospective hams can earn their license or
>  ?? current hams can upgrade
>  ?* Ham Radio demonstrations.
>
> Come join the fun!
> VOMARC Hamfest flyer http://vomarc.org/events/Hamfest%20Flyer.pdf
> <http://vomarc.org/events/Hamfest%20Flyer.pdf>
>
> 73
>
> Mike
> WB6TMH
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2023 23:55:56 +0000
> From: Larry <lmwatbullrun at runbox.com>
> To: foxhunt at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [FoxHunt] FoxHunt Digest, Vol 83, Issue 5
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> I still get emails whenever anyone posts to the list, which I have not
> seen since 2020.? *I* have not been doing much with DF since then.
>
> On 4/3/23 00:19, foxhunt-request at mailman.qth.net wrote:
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> > Today's Topics:
> >
> >     1. Re: Test (Tony)
> >     2. Re: Test (Jim Korenz)
> >     3. Re: Test (William Harris)
> >     4. Activity (Joe)
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 18:46:54 -0500
> > From: Tony<x3301 at hotmail.com>
> > To:foxhunt at mailman.qth.net
> > Subject: Re: [FoxHunt] Test
> > Message-ID:
> >       <
> CH2PR22MB190967ABC509080B73B328F7B6AC0 at CH2PR22MB1909.namprd22.prod.outlook.com
> >
> >
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > That's what the switched capacitor filter does, integrates. A fast
> > attack slow decay AGC will get the strong signal peaks when driving, are
> > most likely to be the right direction, excluding buildings.
> >
> > Tony
> >
> > AA9CC
> >
> > On 4/28/20 6:50 AM, Bernie Hunt wrote:
> >> There is one thing that makes it hopeful, by capturing the readings and
> storing them a trend may be found. I've always wondered if in those time
> when a Doppler seems random in its readings if there was a pattern hidden
> underneath the multipath. It will be interesting if the SDR DF can do that.
> It doesn't solve and age old problem of if you can't hear it you can't hunt
> it.
> >>
> >> Bernie
> >> K2YO
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From:foxhunt-bounces at mailman.qth.net  [mailto:
> foxhunt-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Tony
> >> Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 7:32 AM
> >> To:foxhunt at mailman.qth.net
> >> Subject: Re: [FoxHunt] Test
> >>
> >> HI,
> >>
> >> We are having foxhunts every weekend. Let us know how the SDR DF works,
> I suspect its like the old Doppler units.
> >>
> >> Tony
> >>
> >> AA9CC
> >>
> >> On 4/27/20 2:58 PM, Mike (KA5CVH) Urich wrote:
> >>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 2:34 PM Bryant<skysho at comcast.net>  wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Anybody have some good suggestions to get folks motivated?  Last year
> I spent the bucks on the Kerberos SDR and have yet to take it out on a
> hunt.  Anybody else on this list using the device?
> >>> I have the sniffer ...http://www.foxhunt.com.au/  and a 3L tape
> >>> measure yagi for VHF.
> >>>
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> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 01:07:48 +0000 (UTC)
> > From: Jim Korenz<n8pxw at yahoo.com>
> > To: Radio Direction Finding<foxhunt at mailman.qth.net>
> > Subject: Re: [FoxHunt] Test
> > Message-ID:<88528177.1300709.1588122468962 at mail.yahoo.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> >
> >   Averaging does help to some extent, but putting the bearings in bins,
> and displayingthe bin with the most hits, does a lot better. It doesn't
> take much memory, just 16 or32 bins for the direction. Experience shows
> that mobile Doppler bearings are aboutplus/minus 5 deg, so you don't gain
> anything over 36 bearings.?? JimK N8PXW
> >
> >
> >
> >      On Tuesday, April 28, 2020, 7:47:17 PM EDT, Tony<x3301 at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >   Hi,
> >
> > That's what the switched capacitor filter does, integrates. A fast
> > attack slow decay AGC will get the strong signal peaks when driving, are
> > most likely to be the right direction, excluding buildings.
> >
> > Tony
> >
> > AA9CC
> >
> > On 4/28/20 6:50 AM, Bernie Hunt wrote:
> >> There is one thing that makes it hopeful, by capturing the readings and
> storing them a trend may be found. I've always wondered if in those time
> when a Doppler seems random in its readings if there was a pattern hidden
> underneath the multipath. It will be interesting if the SDR DF can do that.
> It doesn't solve and age old problem of if you can't hear it you can't hunt
> it.
> >>
> >> Bernie
> >> K2YO
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From:foxhunt-bounces at mailman.qth.net  [mailto:
> foxhunt-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Tony
> >> Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 7:32 AM
> >> To:foxhunt at mailman.qth.net
> >> Subject: Re: [FoxHunt] Test
> >>
> >> HI,
> >>
> >> We are having foxhunts every weekend. Let us know how the SDR DF works,
> I suspect its like the old Doppler units.
> >>
> >> Tony
> >>
> >> AA9CC
> >>
> >> On 4/27/20 2:58 PM, Mike (KA5CVH) Urich wrote:
> >>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 2:34 PM Bryant<skysho at comcast.net>  wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Anybody have some good suggestions to get folks motivated?? Last year
> I spent the bucks on the Kerberos SDR and have yet to take it out on a
> hunt.? Anybody else on this list using the device?
> >>> I have the sniffer ...http://www.foxhunt.com.au/  and a 3L tape
> >>> measure yagi for VHF.
> >>>
> >> ______________________________________________________________
> >> FoxHunt mailing list
> >> Home:http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/foxhunt
> >> Help:http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
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> >>
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> >> ______________________________________________________________
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> >>
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> > ______________________________________________________________
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> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Wed, 13 May 2020 22:17:11 -0700
> > From: William Harris<w7kxb1 at gmail.com>
> > To: Jim Korenz<n8pxw at yahoo.com>,      Radio Direction Finding
> >       <foxhunt at mailman.qth.net>
> > Subject: Re: [FoxHunt] Test
> > Message-ID:
> >       <CADJ-aJyz2NEqLsQevxgQzF9R=
> odwT-2i07ayfH9avDE-LHfGkA at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >
> > Any info on the 2020 20 meter hunts?  Where do they now post weekly
> results
> > for 40 and 80m?
> > Later
> > de.w7kxb   ,   ,
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 6:08 PM Jim Korenz via FoxHunt <
> > foxhunt at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
> >
> >>   Averaging does help to some extent, but putting the bearings in bins,
> and
> >> displayingthe bin with the most hits, does a lot better. It doesn't take
> >> much memory, just 16 or32 bins for the direction. Experience shows that
> >> mobile Doppler bearings are aboutplus/minus 5 deg, so you don't gain
> >> anything over 36 bearings.   JimK N8PXW
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>      On Tuesday, April 28, 2020, 7:47:17 PM EDT, Tony<x3301 at hotmail.com
> >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>   Hi,
> >>
> >> That's what the switched capacitor filter does, integrates. A fast
> >> attack slow decay AGC will get the strong signal peaks when driving, are
> >> most likely to be the right direction, excluding buildings.
> >>
> >> Tony
> >>
> >> AA9CC
> >>
> >> On 4/28/20 6:50 AM, Bernie Hunt wrote:
> >>> There is one thing that makes it hopeful, by capturing the readings and
> >> storing them a trend may be found. I've always wondered if in those time
> >> when a Doppler seems random in its readings if there was a pattern
> hidden
> >> underneath the multipath. It will be interesting if the SDR DF can do
> that.
> >> It doesn't solve and age old problem of if you can't hear it you can't
> hunt
> >> it.
> >>> Bernie
> >>> K2YO
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From:foxhunt-bounces at mailman.qth.net  [mailto:
> >> foxhunt-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Tony
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 7:32 AM
> >>> To:foxhunt at mailman.qth.net
> >>> Subject: Re: [FoxHunt] Test
> >>>
> >>> HI,
> >>>
> >>> We are having foxhunts every weekend. Let us know how the SDR DF works,
> >> I suspect its like the old Doppler units.
> >>> Tony
> >>>
> >>> AA9CC
> >>>
> >>> On 4/27/20 2:58 PM, Mike (KA5CVH) Urich wrote:
> >>>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 2:34 PM Bryant<skysho at comcast.net>  wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Anybody have some good suggestions to get folks motivated?  Last year
> >> I spent the bucks on the Kerberos SDR and have yet to take it out on a
> >> hunt.  Anybody else on this list using the device?
> >>>> I have the sniffer ...http://www.foxhunt.com.au/  and a 3L tape
> >>>> measure yagi for VHF.
> >>>>
> >>> ______________________________________________________________
> >>> FoxHunt mailing list
> >>> Home:http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/foxhunt
> >>> Help:http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
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> >>>
> >>> This list hosted by:http://www.qsl.net
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> >>> ______________________________________________________________
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> >>>
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> >> ______________________________________________________________
> >> FoxHunt mailing list
> >> Home:http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/foxhunt
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> >>
> >> ______________________________________________________________
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> >> Home:http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/foxhunt
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> >> Post:mailto:FoxHunt at mailman.qth.net
> >>
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> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2023 19:19:08 -0500
> > From: Joe<nss at mwt.net>
> > To:foxhunt at mailman.qth.net
> > Subject: [FoxHunt] Activity
> > Message-ID:<7a0ec9c7-76fa-7ba7-6c36-3c7d10af36f2 at mwt.net>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
> >
> > Is anyone here at all anymore?
> >
> > Joe WB9SBD
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
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