[FoxHunt] IARU controller question
Marvin Johnston
[email protected]
Thu, 15 May 2003 09:00:25 -0700
It looks like you are both right. The specs used for International
competition is on the web at:
http://www.ardf-r1.org/html/ardfrules26b_rev1.htm
>From that spec for 2M ARDF, "Mode A2A (keyed carrier modulated by AF
tone or continuous carrier modulated by keyed AF tone)."
Jay Hennigan wrote:
>
> On Wed, 14 May 2003, Kuon & Dale Hunt wrote:
>
> > As those of you know who have attended ARDF events in other
> > Regions, keyed-carrier AM tone modulation is the standard.
> > (Though I did encounter the continuous carrier FM in Japan.)
> >
> > This provides an experience similar to hunting 80m signals -
> > you can only take a bearing during the tone portion of the cycle.
>
> I'm not sure I understand this. There's A1 which is straight CW,
> and A2 which is a continuous carrier with an AM tone which is keyed.
>
> My understanding was that 2 meter IARU foxes used A2. During a
> given transmitter's one-minute interval it has a continuous carrier,
> and the morse M-O-x identifier is sent as tone modulation of that
> carrier. During that transmitter's "off" time, it's off. In other
> words, just like the typical USA 2m foxes, but AM instead of FM.
>
> The above statement implies that the spaces inbetween the CW elements
> and words are without carrier, that BOTH the MCW tone and the carrier
> are keyed on and off with each code element. Is this true?
>
> > One thing I noticed when hunting a keyed-carrier AM signal in
> > Victoria was that it would not open the squelch on my 2m HT,
> > regardless of how strong the signal was. (I've had the same
> > experience listening for ELT beacons using a 2m rig with AM
> > receiver in the Aircraft band: apparently the squelch was
> > still designed for FM.) In both cases I had to hunt with the
> > squelch open. This poses a bit of a dilema when we are trying
> > to gain experinence at international hunts while encouraging
> > newcomers to try the sport.
>
> Most integrated circuit receivers with a squelch circuit use a noise
> gate squelch which involves a limiter and FM detector, even if the
> audio demodulator used to drive the speaker is AM. Typically the
> RSSI (S-meter) is also a function of the limiter used with the FM
> detector. I would think that a regular 2m FM HT squelch would work
> on an AM signal. If the carrier is indeed being keyed with the code
> elements, the squelch circuit integrator and logic might not be fast
> enough to function reliably at higher code speeds, but this shouldn't
> be that much of an issue at least on the M-O characters with the speeds
> normally used.
>
> > Actually, one advantage of the keyed carrier transmission is
> > that you can tell which transmitter you are listening to even
> > when "whoopee" (tone "S"-meter) receiver mode.
>
> That's where a stereo headset with whoopie and receiver audio is a nice
> feature.
>
> > At this point I think we will all just use whatever transmitters
> > we have available, but it is a point to consider as we plan for
> > new ones.
>
> If there's a standard, we should migrate towards it, especially for the
> more advanced hunts. Practice hunts to get folks with only a 2m HT hooked
> on the sport are a different ballgame.
>
> > Meanwhile, a further technicality: the US rules require any ID
> > sent automatically in Morse Code to be no faster than 20 WPM.
>
> Actually, that's only true if the automatic device is used only for
> identification. Although I suppose that technically the M-O-x sequence
> is a form of "identification" in the strict sense of identifying which
> transmitter is on, it isn't "station identification" as defined in the
> rules. Kind of a gray area. If the M-O-x is over 20 WPM, then the ID
> probably can be as well. M-O-x at 5 WPM and the CW ID at 40 WPM would
> not IMHO be a legal ID. 97.117(b)(1)
>
> --
> Jay Hennigan - CCIE #7880 - Network Administration - [email protected]
> NetLojix Communications, Inc. - http://www.netlojix.com/
> WestNet: Connecting you to the planet. 805 884-6323
> _______________________________________________
> FoxHunt mailing list
> [email protected]
> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/foxhunt
--
-------------------------------------------
ebaY's Security Breach and Coverup
http://www.auctionguild.com/generic110.html