[ForSale-Swap] Pressing charges for bad ebay deal

[Marty]

That's your prerogative and you might increase your selling by stating so in
your auctions but there was nothing in the auction in question
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220095748457 that
indicates immediate shipment, in fact I just noticed that the seller says he
is moving! That could account for the slow response, moving is never an easy
task.

Marty 

-----Original Message-----
From: forsale-swap-bounces at mailman.qth.net
[mailto:forsale-swap-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Loren Moline
WA7SKT
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 4:09 PM
To: radio at matnet.com; ForSale-Swap at mailman.qth.net
Subject: RE: [ForSale-Swap] Pressing charges for bad ebay deal

Steve,

When I sell something on ebay and I get the money the item belongs to the 
buyer. I have no right to take my sweet time about getting it to them. My 
wife often says..why don't you wait til your days off to send it. I tell 
her..I have the money so it belongs to the buyer. I didn't have to wait for 
the money so the buyer should not have to wait for his item.


Loren




----Original Message Follows----
From: Steve Tolley <radio at matnet.com>
To: ForSale-Swap at mailman.qth.net
Subject: RE: [ForSale-Swap] Pressing charges for bad ebay deal
Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 12:01:37 -0800

John
  I think you may be over-reacting here. There has been only a relatively 
short time involved.  His feedback was all great. There is no reason to 
suspect he is attempting any ripoff or theft. I have had packages dropped 
off at both Fedex and UPS that had problems with the tracking numbers not 
showing as good. The guy may have dropped it off or shipped it and left for 
work for a couple of weeks on vacation, or medical reasons. A lot of people 
up here work two-on (weeks) and two-off and are out of touch for some finite

time. Others have to leave for business, family, or other reasons which 
require a long travel time. Lots of valid possibilities and only a couple of

weeks. Way too short a time to start to panic or starting to talk of legal 
actions.
  Investigate a bit more before using terms like "Legal action", "theft", or

"pressing charges". All of those would require proof and documentation and 
lacking that could expose you to a legal action instead.
  You posted negative feedback for the guy and even Ebay guidelines suggest 
a longer time frame before starting such processes.
   You definately reacted too quickly there.  Maybe a bit of paranoia 
because it was Ebay? Or too many internet horror stories that we now react 
with such haste?
  Remember that while we (you and I) may be on a fast schedule/track in 
todays world that others still live a bit slower, less connected, but no 
less valid reality.

  Heck, I'll bet a good number of  the people I hung out with in my youth 
still don't have any internet!

  I think we have started to believe that in a world with fast 
communications and fast shipping possibilities that all will be flawless in 
the process and the human factor is to be ignored. When in fact, it all just

means that there are more things to go wrong.

  His history does not show any reason to be overly concerned or suspect 
foul play.

  Remember when ordering/buying anything was accompanied by "allow six to 
eight weeks for delivery". That was not so long ago.

  Patience may be the best option for a little while longer.

BTW: I shipped a large 150 lb box of radios to NYC a little over a year ago.

Dropped off at a Fedex facility. Had receipts and paperwork in hand. Knew 
the person behind the counter personally. Knew the truck driver that picked 
it up from there.  Package was not found again. Did not hear from the 
recipient for nearly three weeks that he had not received it. I started 
looking for it and no one could figure where it went. The tracking number 
came up as no good, yet I had the paperwork in my hand with the tracking 
number and I watched the Fedex employee put the label/tracking number on the

box. I watched her scan the package/number. Never seen again. It took three 
months to get Fedex to pay me for the loss but they did fully. In the 
meanwhile I shipped another box of radios to the buyer but the additional 
time caused the loss of a larger sale of 60 radios.
   One year later, out of the blue, three large boxes showed up at my door 
by UPS with the three radios in them. Repacked. Poorly. The boxes mangled 
with the radios damaged and hanging out of the boxes. From a large computer 
company in California! No paperwork or explaination and no shipping charges!
   Very strange. Shipped Fedex to the east coast. Received from UPS from the

west coast! No clue as to how it all happened.

  From the lyrics of "Meatloaf" (Movie "Roadie")  Everything will work out 
if you let it.

  Patience is the best policy here until contact from the other party or 
facts/situation are known.

  Steve   KL7FZ



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