From flexnet@mailman.qth.net  Thu Oct  3 03:36:25 2002
From: flexnet@mailman.qth.net (Maiko Langelaar)
Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2002 21:36:25 -0500
Subject: [FlexNet] I need testers for my Flexnet32 Digi software :-)
Message-ID: <3D9BAD29.DADA5814@pcs.mb.ca>

Greetings,

Well, working on my NOSaprs stuff has got me motivated to bigger
things with the FlexNet32 development. The ultimate goal is to have
an APRS Igate for Windows based on FlexNet32. That will allow you guys
and gals to capture APRS data from your 6pack tnc or Soundcard modem,
and shoot it to some APRS server on your local LAN or on the APRS
internet system, kinda like APRSD or my NOSaprs, but based on the
FlexNet32 api.

But first things first, it's been awhile since I last played with
my WIN32 programming, soooo ... I'm curious if anyone is willing
to *waste their time* to test a simple one channel digi app.

My FlexNet development page is at the following URL :

   http://www.pcs.mb.ca/~maiko/flexnet
 
Go to the URL above, load the KLMdigi.exe, put it in your FlexNet32
directory or anywhere else if you have your paths set accordingly,
configure one channel with your 6pack tnc, and see if you can get
any of your friends to digi via your tnc. Let me know if it works,
and how good or bad. That's all it does right now, nothing more,
I just want to get the base code working, that's all.

PS: Sorry no cross channel digipeating at this time. I'll look
    into it at some point, since I remember someone asking me
    about it quite some time ago.

Best regards,

Maiko Langelaar / VE4KLM

From flexnet@mailman.qth.net  Sun Oct  6 13:06:44 2002
From: flexnet@mailman.qth.net (Rodrigo Sequeira Matias)
Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 13:06:44 +0100
Subject: [FlexNet] I need testers for my Flexnet32 Digi software :-)
References: <3D9BAD29.DADA5814@pcs.mb.ca>
Message-ID: <001601c26d30$d7065750$0502a8c0@rsmatias>

    Hi,

        I would like to participate on the FLEXNET32 APRS Digi. Let's move
on! I'll be waiting for news.

Best 73,

Rodrigo (CT1GQU)


----- Original Message -----
From: "Maiko Langelaar" <maiko@pcs.mb.ca>
To: "FlexNet Mailing List" <flexnet@mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 3:36 AM
Subject: [FlexNet] I need testers for my Flexnet32 Digi software :-)


> Greetings,
>
> Well, working on my NOSaprs stuff has got me motivated to bigger
> things with the FlexNet32 development. The ultimate goal is to have
> an APRS Igate for Windows based on FlexNet32. That will allow you guys
> and gals to capture APRS data from your 6pack tnc or Soundcard modem,
> and shoot it to some APRS server on your local LAN or on the APRS
> internet system, kinda like APRSD or my NOSaprs, but based on the
> FlexNet32 api.
>
> But first things first, it's been awhile since I last played with
> my WIN32 programming, soooo ... I'm curious if anyone is willing
> to *waste their time* to test a simple one channel digi app.
>
> My FlexNet development page is at the following URL :
>
>    http://www.pcs.mb.ca/~maiko/flexnet
>
> Go to the URL above, load the KLMdigi.exe, put it in your FlexNet32
> directory or anywhere else if you have your paths set accordingly,
> configure one channel with your 6pack tnc, and see if you can get
> any of your friends to digi via your tnc. Let me know if it works,
> and how good or bad. That's all it does right now, nothing more,
> I just want to get the base code working, that's all.
>
> PS: Sorry no cross channel digipeating at this time. I'll look
>     into it at some point, since I remember someone asking me
>     about it quite some time ago.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Maiko Langelaar / VE4KLM
> _______________________________________________
> FlexNet mailing list
> FlexNet@mailman.qth.net
> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/flexnet
>
>



From flexnet@mailman.qth.net  Mon Oct  7 21:08:25 2002
From: flexnet@mailman.qth.net (Ricardo Saiz Villoria)
Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 22:08:25 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [FlexNet] 6pack ring under flex32
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0210072202280.1100-100000@localhost.localdomain>

Hi

A local ham is experiencing problems with his flexnet 32 setup. He is
using flexnet 32 under windows 98. On one com port he has two 6PACK TNCs,
one for 1200 and the other for 9600 (on the radio). The serial baud rate
is set at 19200. Trouble is, only the one at 9600 rf rate can communicate
with the computer.

The same hardware setup worked under the dos version of flexnet.

Any help would be appreciated

-- 
Ricardo Saiz Villoria EA1APM
AX.25:  ea1apm@ea1rkv.eapo.esp.eu
WEB:	http://www.qsl.net/ea1apm
E-MAIL: mailto:ea1apm@amsat.org



From flexnet@mailman.qth.net  Mon Oct  7 23:52:13 2002
From: flexnet@mailman.qth.net (Simone)
Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 00:52:13 +0200
Subject: [FlexNet] simple question....
Message-ID: <007201c26e54$3167f540$0100a8c0@p166mmx>

hi to m.l.!
nobody use flexnet 3.3g, windows98 and over pentium 1000mhz?
my configuration is 6pack tnc, and tfemu but on 1000mhz processor
and asus mother-board run only windows95.....
with win98 the sistem is stalled at the windows logo. 
help me please to run flex and win98.
73 simone.


From flexnet@mailman.qth.net  Wed Oct  9 14:18:47 2002
From: flexnet@mailman.qth.net (flexnet@mailman.qth.net)
Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 08:18:47 -0500
Subject: [FlexNet] New Flex32
References: <3D9BAD29.DADA5814@pcs.mb.ca>
Message-ID: <001701c26f96$6c08f8a0$87cefea9@swbell.net>

I am one of those hams who never could get Flex32 to work with the
SoundModem driver. I had the trouble with the PTT, etc..

I recently tried out the new version of Flex32 and Soundmodem, and they
worked flawlessly on the same old computer. I sure was pleasantly surprised!

So, if you have had trouble with Flex32 and the SoundModem driver in the
past, I would encourage you to try out the new version at the FlexNet web
site.

Works for me!  Maybe it will work for you too.

P.S.  The new version of Paxon is a lot better too!

Charles,  N5PVL



From flexnet@mailman.qth.net  Wed Oct  9 16:02:49 2002
From: flexnet@mailman.qth.net (Krassi, LZ4KK)
Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 18:02:49 +0300
Subject: [FlexNet] New Flex32
References: <3D9BAD29.DADA5814@pcs.mb.ca> <001701c26f96$6c08f8a0$87cefea9@swbell.net>
Message-ID: <177801c26fa4$f18dffd0$3701a8c0@KKK>

Charles,

Thanks for information... Downloaded the new FlexNet32.zip package. I also
have had many problems with the PTT and the SoundModem driver on Windows98
machine.. These problems were the main reason to start using SV2AGW package,
which is still working for me.

Just wondering, how is it possible to miss any announcements that a new
Flex32 version was released????
Were there any announcements at all? And where?
.....

73 de Krassi, LZ4KK
lz4kk@hamgate.org



----- Original Message -----
From: <n5pvl@tsarc.net>
To: <flexnet@mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 4:18 PM
Subject: [FlexNet] New Flex32


> I am one of those hams who never could get Flex32 to work with the
> SoundModem driver. I had the trouble with the PTT, etc..
>
> I recently tried out the new version of Flex32 and Soundmodem, and they
> worked flawlessly on the same old computer. I sure was pleasantly
surprised!
>
> So, if you have had trouble with Flex32 and the SoundModem driver in the
> past, I would encourage you to try out the new version at the FlexNet web
> site.
>
> Works for me!  Maybe it will work for you too.
>
> P.S.  The new version of Paxon is a lot better too!
>
> Charles,  N5PVL
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> FlexNet mailing list
> FlexNet@mailman.qth.net
> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/flexnet
>


From flexnet@mailman.qth.net  Wed Oct  9 17:39:36 2002
From: flexnet@mailman.qth.net (Missler, Jean Luc)
Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 17:39:36 +0100
Subject: AW: [FlexNet] New Flex32
Message-ID: <62C6E3205A04864C93B8F9031C90AEB602C024@SABEXCHANGE.SCHALLER.COM>

Hallo,
there a no announcements,
new version/bugfixes are distributed at exhibitions/hamfests in Germany.
a few days Later there are on the homepage.

73s de Jean-Luc F1ULQ


-----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Krassi, LZ4KK [mailto:lz4kk@dsh.rousse.bg]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 9. Oktober 2002 17:03
An: flexnet@mailman.qth.net
Betreff: Re: [FlexNet] New Flex32


Charles,

Thanks for information... Downloaded the new FlexNet32.zip package. I =
also
have had many problems with the PTT and the SoundModem driver on =
Windows98
machine.. These problems were the main reason to start using SV2AGW =
package,
which is still working for me.

Just wondering, how is it possible to miss any announcements that a new
Flex32 version was released????
Were there any announcements at all? And where?
.....

73 de Krassi, LZ4KK
lz4kk@hamgate.org



----- Original Message -----
From: <n5pvl@tsarc.net>
To: <flexnet@mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 4:18 PM
Subject: [FlexNet] New Flex32


> I am one of those hams who never could get Flex32 to work with the
> SoundModem driver. I had the trouble with the PTT, etc..
>
> I recently tried out the new version of Flex32 and Soundmodem, and =
they
> worked flawlessly on the same old computer. I sure was pleasantly
surprised!
>
> So, if you have had trouble with Flex32 and the SoundModem driver in =
the
> past, I would encourage you to try out the new version at the FlexNet =
web
> site.
>
> Works for me!  Maybe it will work for you too.
>
> P.S.  The new version of Paxon is a lot better too!
>
> Charles,  N5PVL
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> FlexNet mailing list
> FlexNet@mailman.qth.net
> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/flexnet
>

_______________________________________________
FlexNet mailing list
FlexNet@mailman.qth.net
http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/flexnet




From flexnet@mailman.qth.net  Wed Oct  9 19:08:38 2002
From: flexnet@mailman.qth.net (Rodrigo Sequeira Matias)
Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 19:08:38 +0100
Subject: [FlexNet] New Flex32
References: <62C6E3205A04864C93B8F9031C90AEB602C024@SABEXCHANGE.SCHALLER.COM>
Message-ID: <003f01c26fbe$e49e3c80$0201a8c0@rsmatias>

    Flexnet Group could do some improvments on their WebPage. It is allways
very weird.
    But thanks fot the information.
    Where can I get some info on application's develelopment for FLEXNET
32bits?

73,
Rodrigo Matias (CT1GQU)


----- Original Message -----
From: "Missler, Jean Luc" <JeanLuc.Missler@schaller.de>
To: <flexnet@mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 5:39 PM
Subject: AW: [FlexNet] New Flex32



Hallo,
there a no announcements,
new version/bugfixes are distributed at exhibitions/hamfests in Germany.
a few days Later there are on the homepage.

73s de Jean-Luc F1ULQ


-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Krassi, LZ4KK [mailto:lz4kk@dsh.rousse.bg]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 9. Oktober 2002 17:03
An: flexnet@mailman.qth.net
Betreff: Re: [FlexNet] New Flex32


Charles,

Thanks for information... Downloaded the new FlexNet32.zip package. I also
have had many problems with the PTT and the SoundModem driver on Windows98
machine.. These problems were the main reason to start using SV2AGW package,
which is still working for me.

Just wondering, how is it possible to miss any announcements that a new
Flex32 version was released????
Were there any announcements at all? And where?
.....

73 de Krassi, LZ4KK
lz4kk@hamgate.org



----- Original Message -----
From: <n5pvl@tsarc.net>
To: <flexnet@mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 4:18 PM
Subject: [FlexNet] New Flex32


> I am one of those hams who never could get Flex32 to work with the
> SoundModem driver. I had the trouble with the PTT, etc..
>
> I recently tried out the new version of Flex32 and Soundmodem, and they
> worked flawlessly on the same old computer. I sure was pleasantly
surprised!
>
> So, if you have had trouble with Flex32 and the SoundModem driver in the
> past, I would encourage you to try out the new version at the FlexNet web
> site.
>
> Works for me!  Maybe it will work for you too.
>
> P.S.  The new version of Paxon is a lot better too!
>
> Charles,  N5PVL
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> FlexNet mailing list
> FlexNet@mailman.qth.net
> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/flexnet
>

_______________________________________________
FlexNet mailing list
FlexNet@mailman.qth.net
http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/flexnet



_______________________________________________
FlexNet mailing list
FlexNet@mailman.qth.net
http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/flexnet






From flexnet@mailman.qth.net  Wed Oct  9 20:44:13 2002
From: flexnet@mailman.qth.net (Richard Stern)
Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 15:44:13 -0400
Subject: [FlexNet] New Flex32
In-Reply-To: <177801c26fa4$f18dffd0$3701a8c0@KKK>
Message-ID: <000001c26fcc$40965240$e66721a2@MD.USA>

KRASSI,

I have been trying to get SV2AGW to work with my WinMe system. It says
it can't find the TCP/IP modules. When I use it in conjunction with
WinPack V6.8. It seems to operate ok with the UISS.exe for APRS. But,
it's not seeing TCP/IP...

I built a rig/soundcard interface for PTT USING EITHER RTS or DTR from
the PC's COM port and switching between port ONE(1) and TWO(2); which
also works fine with UISS.exe(freeware). I actually get the AFSK from
the soundcard output after my PTT has been activated. This application
took very little time to get up and running. The large amount of time
was spent on building the PC/SOUNDCARD interface and testing it. I did
not have to write a thesis about configuration problems and possible
fixes to get UISS.EXE to operate with Windows O/S. (ANY WINDOW'S O/S).
It seems to me that the programmer for UISS.EXE has whipped that
problem. The only draw back is it's for APRS and I don't think it deals
with the TCP/IP stack.=20

"There lies the rub". How to manipulate the TCP/IP protocol in a
Window's environment. A PDF document called "winsm.pdf" only begins to
describe the configuration changes to Window's O/S needed to get
FLEX-NET to operate in the Window's environment. I stumbled on to this
document after going through all the English documentation, "Winsm.pdf
is only released in the German language. I was able to roughly translate
it and had my translation verified by a couple hardworking guys
connected with the FLEX-NET project. (Thanks Guys!!!)This is probably
the first document that needs to be read if your going to start
configuring FLEX NET for Windows. BUT, there is no exact English
translation. I do mean EXACT.! Because, you lose a lot of important
little tidbits if it is sloppily translated.

 I've been struggling to get FLEX-NET to operate. as an END-USER
Soundcard TNC with Windows OS. I've been bouncing back and forth between
the two applications FLEX NET and AGW packet with WINPACK.exe. But, no
one has given me any concrete ways to get any of the apps up and
running.

 I can only load through Windows ME unless I formatted a FAT16 partition
to run MSDOS6.22 because Winme does NOT have a real DOS O/S. This will
enable the PC to run the DOS version of FLEX-NET. It has some sort of
WinME PSEUDO-DOS that only runs on FAT32 format. THE DOS SHELL is now
what WinME only uses for DOS. So, I've tried to boot from a formatted
disk by the START-UP DISK routine.=20

There doesn't seem to be a way to format a disk using the command <
FORMAT /s >. If you try through the DOS SHELL, a system message comes
back that says 'WINME does not support the <FORMAT /s> command anymore'.
Directed to the CONROL PANEL, go to "Add/Remove Programs" option to make
a START-UP floppy. Stripping the files from the floppy and adding DOS
commands that work with WIN-ME DOS and FLEXNET. I have a FLEX-NET boot
file that boots with no problems through the SHELL. However, when
booting from the floppy FLEX-NET won't accept the SOUNDCARD
configuration from the SET BLASTER COMMAND given from AUTOEXEC.BAT
before the FLEX-NET BAT file loads.=20

I have a CREATIVE SOUND BLASTER PCI512. The card has an EMU10K1, "a new
processor from E-mu Systems based on E-mu's highly acclaimed Emulator IV
sound module." So says, the Hype B.S. in the installation manual. When
loaded it shows the full blown SB version at IRQ-5/ADDRESS [B000]and a
SB16 EMULATOR loaded at ADDRESS 220/IRQ-7 in the system settings. I have
tried to boot using either IRQ7 or IRQ5 SoundBlaster with the respective
FLEX NET Modem module in the FLEX-NET BATCH FILE to boot. I have
documented all the different reconfigurations I've tried have failed to
find the proper SOUNDCARD Address for FLEX-NET.BAT .

SOUNDBLASTER driver loads with no errors. FLEX-NET Kernel is activated
and no errors occur. SMMIXER.EXE loads and outputs its setting OK.(I
have <ECHO OFF> and <PAUSE> after each module loads . So, I can see
which modules are giving me errors and see the configuration feedback to
the Display(stdio).) When it gets to "THE FIRMWARE EMULATOR" Module
TFEMU.EXE an error halts the process. THE CREATIVE SB cannot be found at
the address given. I used both addresses for the soundcard with the same
result.

 It does get a little complicated but I kept track of my configuration
procedures by noting them down with each step. I am determined to get
one of these packages to work with my system which has no problems
operating with ANY other software I use. I don't want to go out and buy
another "Black Box" to clutter up my shack.

All the FLEX-Net nodes are running under DOS. All the Terminal programs
are configured to run in a DOS environment. So all the END-USER apps are
for DOS OS as well. I have had to do a lot of digging to get a straight
answer to that. Because when I mention Window's, It seems like the
sysops start talking about OLD versions of Windows and with a full DOS
OS. I can't seem to make them understand that the future of Micro Bill's
OS does not want to support DOS anymore.

If FLEX-NET wants to have a future it must start to support the WINDOWS
END-USER. Does is great for nodes because you can use a cheap PC to
support it but the END-USERS who don't want to be a Node and use the
FLEX-NET WAN(Wide Area Net) need a windows end-user's application, using
the soundcard, that's easy to configure and attaches to the Windows
TCP/IP drivers. The Future is HERE and IT's running PSEUDO-DOS! In the
next year or so; it's bye!...bye! DOS. This should make some vendors
selling MS-DOS OS separately happy.

At this moment, My options have scaled down. I believe one of the
FLEXNET sysops told me I'd be wasting my time. I didn't believe him.
Because, I thought if the application was using the sound card it must
be able to use Windows. My efforts did get me the "BIG PICTURE". I find
that FLEXNET has a great NETWORK but there is a lack of focus on
END-USER applications for soundcards. I don't want to be a FLEXNET
system administrator. I'm retired due to health. One of my "And Other
Duties Assigned"-functions was to be a UNIX system admin. No, I don't
want to do that at the moment. I just want to get on the FLEXNET
interstate and drive! Is this possible?





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-----Original Message-----
From: flexnet-admin@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:flexnet-admin@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Krassi, LZ4KK
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 11:03 AM
To: flexnet@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [FlexNet] New Flex32


Charles,

Thanks for information... Downloaded the new FlexNet32.zip package. I
also have had many problems with the PTT and the SoundModem driver on
Windows98 machine.. These problems were the main reason to start using
SV2AGW package, which is still working for me.

Just wondering, how is it possible to miss any announcements that a new
Flex32 version was released???? Were there any announcements at all? And
where? .....

73 de Krassi, LZ4KK
lz4kk@hamgate.org



----- Original Message -----
From: <n5pvl@tsarc.net>
To: <flexnet@mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 4:18 PM
Subject: [FlexNet] New Flex32


> I am one of those hams who never could get Flex32 to work with the
> SoundModem driver. I had the trouble with the PTT, etc..
>
> I recently tried out the new version of Flex32 and Soundmodem, and
> they worked flawlessly on the same old computer. I sure was pleasantly
surprised!
>
> So, if you have had trouble with Flex32 and the SoundModem driver in
> the past, I would encourage you to try out the new version at the=20
> FlexNet web site.
>
> Works for me!  Maybe it will work for you too.
>
> P.S.  The new version of Paxon is a lot better too!
>
> Charles,  N5PVL
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> FlexNet mailing list
> FlexNet@mailman.qth.net
> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/flexnet
>

_______________________________________________
FlexNet mailing list
FlexNet@mailman.qth.net http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/flexnet


From flexnet@mailman.qth.net  Wed Oct  9 21:39:34 2002
From: flexnet@mailman.qth.net (John Papson)
Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 15:39:34 -0500
Subject: [FlexNet] New Flex32
Message-ID: <CAD713019C3ED611B1DA00B0D0FC260107E514@NY_SRV_BDC>

Richard:

Don't beat the hell out of the FlexNet folks in Darmstadt just because
Micro$oft 
keeps changing their Window$ operating system on a yearly basis !

The PC FlexNet DOS version is working perfectly at almost 100 node sites, 
running a stable network now covering 8 states in the Northeastern USA.

Don't expect FlexNet running under Window$ to operate as a node, PERIOD !

Pull a junk computer off your pile, load Window$ 95, and get that working
for
your end user station for starters...

Then move up to Win-98 which is vastly different, followed by Win-2000, Win
NT, 
Win-Me, Win-$$$...    Do it one step at a time...

I don't have answers to your questions, as Window$ changes faster than 
the volunteers (mostly students ?) writing FlexNet software can keep up !

The Europeans don't give a damn about Window$, as they have jumped 
aboard the LINUX bandwagon with both feet !

With Wal-Mart selling a $199.99 LINUX based PC, perhaps they are correct ! 

73

John WB2CIK

 
> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Richard Stern [SMTP:rstern@intercom.net]
> Sent:	Wednesday, October 09, 2002 3:44 PM
> To:	flexnet@mailman.qth.net
> Subject:	RE: [FlexNet] New Flex32
> 
> KRASSI,
> 
> I have been trying to get SV2AGW to work with my WinMe system. It says
> it can't find the TCP/IP modules. When I use it in conjunction with
> WinPack V6.8. It seems to operate ok with the UISS.exe for APRS. But,
> it's not seeing TCP/IP...
> 
> I built a rig/soundcard interface for PTT USING EITHER RTS or DTR from
> the PC's COM port and switching between port ONE(1) and TWO(2); which
> also works fine with UISS.exe(freeware). I actually get the AFSK from
> the soundcard output after my PTT has been activated. This application
> took very little time to get up and running. The large amount of time
> was spent on building the PC/SOUNDCARD interface and testing it. I did
> not have to write a thesis about configuration problems and possible
> fixes to get UISS.EXE to operate with Windows O/S. (ANY WINDOW'S O/S).
> It seems to me that the programmer for UISS.EXE has whipped that
> problem. The only draw back is it's for APRS and I don't think it deals
> with the TCP/IP stack. 
> 
> "There lies the rub". How to manipulate the TCP/IP protocol in a
> Window's environment. A PDF document called "winsm.pdf" only begins to
> describe the configuration changes to Window's O/S needed to get
> FLEX-NET to operate in the Window's environment. I stumbled on to this
> document after going through all the English documentation, "Winsm.pdf
> is only released in the German language. I was able to roughly translate
> it and had my translation verified by a couple hardworking guys
> connected with the FLEX-NET project. (Thanks Guys!!!)This is probably
> the first document that needs to be read if your going to start
> configuring FLEX NET for Windows. BUT, there is no exact English
> translation. I do mean EXACT.! Because, you lose a lot of important
> little tidbits if it is sloppily translated.
> 
>  I've been struggling to get FLEX-NET to operate. as an END-USER
> Soundcard TNC with Windows OS. I've been bouncing back and forth between
> the two applications FLEX NET and AGW packet with WINPACK.exe. But, no
> one has given me any concrete ways to get any of the apps up and
> running.
> 
>  I can only load through Windows ME unless I formatted a FAT16 partition
> to run MSDOS6.22 because Winme does NOT have a real DOS O/S. This will
> enable the PC to run the DOS version of FLEX-NET. It has some sort of
> WinME PSEUDO-DOS that only runs on FAT32 format. THE DOS SHELL is now
> what WinME only uses for DOS. So, I've tried to boot from a formatted
> disk by the START-UP DISK routine. 
> 
> There doesn't seem to be a way to format a disk using the command <
> FORMAT /s >. If you try through the DOS SHELL, a system message comes
> back that says 'WINME does not support the <FORMAT /s> command anymore'.
> Directed to the CONROL PANEL, go to "Add/Remove Programs" option to make
> a START-UP floppy. Stripping the files from the floppy and adding DOS
> commands that work with WIN-ME DOS and FLEXNET. I have a FLEX-NET boot
> file that boots with no problems through the SHELL. However, when
> booting from the floppy FLEX-NET won't accept the SOUNDCARD
> configuration from the SET BLASTER COMMAND given from AUTOEXEC.BAT
> before the FLEX-NET BAT file loads. 
> 
> I have a CREATIVE SOUND BLASTER PCI512. The card has an EMU10K1, "a new
> processor from E-mu Systems based on E-mu's highly acclaimed Emulator IV
> sound module." So says, the Hype B.S. in the installation manual. When
> loaded it shows the full blown SB version at IRQ-5/ADDRESS [B000]and a
> SB16 EMULATOR loaded at ADDRESS 220/IRQ-7 in the system settings. I have
> tried to boot using either IRQ7 or IRQ5 SoundBlaster with the respective
> FLEX NET Modem module in the FLEX-NET BATCH FILE to boot. I have
> documented all the different reconfigurations I've tried have failed to
> find the proper SOUNDCARD Address for FLEX-NET.BAT .
> 
> SOUNDBLASTER driver loads with no errors. FLEX-NET Kernel is activated
> and no errors occur. SMMIXER.EXE loads and outputs its setting OK.(I
> have <ECHO OFF> and <PAUSE> after each module loads . So, I can see
> which modules are giving me errors and see the configuration feedback to
> the Display(stdio).) When it gets to "THE FIRMWARE EMULATOR" Module
> TFEMU.EXE an error halts the process. THE CREATIVE SB cannot be found at
> the address given. I used both addresses for the soundcard with the same
> result.
> 
>  It does get a little complicated but I kept track of my configuration
> procedures by noting them down with each step. I am determined to get
> one of these packages to work with my system which has no problems
> operating with ANY other software I use. I don't want to go out and buy
> another "Black Box" to clutter up my shack.
> 
> All the FLEX-Net nodes are running under DOS. All the Terminal programs
> are configured to run in a DOS environment. So all the END-USER apps are
> for DOS OS as well. I have had to do a lot of digging to get a straight
> answer to that. Because when I mention Window's, It seems like the
> sysops start talking about OLD versions of Windows and with a full DOS
> OS. I can't seem to make them understand that the future of Micro Bill's
> OS does not want to support DOS anymore.
> 
> If FLEX-NET wants to have a future it must start to support the WINDOWS
> END-USER. Does is great for nodes because you can use a cheap PC to
> support it but the END-USERS who don't want to be a Node and use the
> FLEX-NET WAN(Wide Area Net) need a windows end-user's application, using
> the soundcard, that's easy to configure and attaches to the Windows
> TCP/IP drivers. The Future is HERE and IT's running PSEUDO-DOS! In the
> next year or so; it's bye!...bye! DOS. This should make some vendors
> selling MS-DOS OS separately happy.
> 
> At this moment, My options have scaled down. I believe one of the
> FLEXNET sysops told me I'd be wasting my time. I didn't believe him.
> Because, I thought if the application was using the sound card it must
> be able to use Windows. My efforts did get me the "BIG PICTURE". I find
> that FLEXNET has a great NETWORK but there is a lack of focus on
> END-USER applications for soundcards. I don't want to be a FLEXNET
> system administrator. I'm retired due to health. One of my "And Other
> Duties Assigned"-functions was to be a UNIX system admin. No, I don't
> want to do that at the moment. I just want to get on the FLEXNET
> interstate and drive! Is this possible?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Peninsula Radio Operators Society
> http://www.intercom.net/npo/pros/index.html
> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/PROS
> No Fat in our HAM-LINKS!
> Webmaster: NW3N (FISTS ARLHS MARS ARRL)
> 

From flexnet@mailman.qth.net  Wed Oct  9 23:16:15 2002
From: flexnet@mailman.qth.net (Richard Stern)
Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 18:16:15 -0400
Subject: [FlexNet] RE: UNFLEXABLE-NET?
In-Reply-To: <CAD713019C3ED611B1DA00B0D0FC260107E514@NY_SRV_BDC>
Message-ID: <001401c26fe1$7d15ca60$e66721a2@MD.USA>

WOW! I think you missed the point of what I was saying.

There's no need to get so defensive.

Your absolutely right about The FLEXNET nodes and ,also, our German
foreign national friends  are absolutely wonderful in what they have
produced!

I am trying to express that there is no desent software for the END-USER
using a soundcards that that's easy to set up. This is from an END-USER
point of view not a SYSTEMS PROGRAMMING/ENGINEERING/ADMINISTRATION point
of view.

I think the problem is I'm not looking to run a node right now. I just
want a decent terminal program that will run AX.25 TCP/IP through my
sound card to my rig.

Also,Thanks for making me understand how FLEXNET is unshackably tied to
the DOS platform. I believe FLEXNET is not for me.=20

I must apologize for putting you on the defensive. Back in the late 70s
when I was troubleshooting problems for ARPANET communications, open and
honest opinions where welcome.I'm a disabled AMERICAN veteran, my neck
and back are broke. I can't just run all over the place and put a system
together and then spend hours messing with MicroBill's OS. =20

ONE LAST SHOOT, Now that my German_Irish temperment has stirred. Change
the NAME of FLEXNET, so sternly defended, to UNFLEXABLE-NET.




NOTE: If the SYSOP for this list is reading this email delete my address
from this list...73


-----Original Message-----
From: flexnet-admin@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:flexnet-admin@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of John Papson
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 4:40 PM
To: 'flexnet@mailman.qth.net'
Subject: RE: [FlexNet] New Flex32


Richard:

Don't beat the hell out of the FlexNet folks in Darmstadt just because
Micro$oft=20
keeps changing their Window$ operating system on a yearly basis !

The PC FlexNet DOS version is working perfectly at almost 100 node
sites,=20
running a stable network now covering 8 states in the Northeastern USA.

Don't expect FlexNet running under Window$ to operate as a node, PERIOD
!

Pull a junk computer off your pile, load Window$ 95, and get that
working for your end user station for starters...

Then move up to Win-98 which is vastly different, followed by Win-2000,
Win NT,=20
Win-Me, Win-$$$...    Do it one step at a time...

I don't have answers to your questions, as Window$ changes faster than=20
the volunteers (mostly students ?) writing FlexNet software can keep up
!

The Europeans don't give a damn about Window$, as they have jumped=20
aboard the LINUX bandwagon with both feet !

With Wal-Mart selling a $199.99 LINUX based PC, perhaps they are correct
!=20

73

John WB2CIK

=20
> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Richard Stern [SMTP:rstern@intercom.net]
> Sent:	Wednesday, October 09, 2002 3:44 PM
> To:	flexnet@mailman.qth.net
> Subject:	RE: [FlexNet] New Flex32
>=20
> KRASSI,
>=20
> I have been trying to get SV2AGW to work with my WinMe system. It says

> it can't find the TCP/IP modules. When I use it in conjunction with=20
> WinPack V6.8. It seems to operate ok with the UISS.exe for APRS. But,=20
> it's not seeing TCP/IP...
>=20
> I built a rig/soundcard interface for PTT USING EITHER RTS or DTR from

> the PC's COM port and switching between port ONE(1) and TWO(2); which=20
> also works fine with UISS.exe(freeware). I actually get the AFSK from=20
> the soundcard output after my PTT has been activated. This application

> took very little time to get up and running. The large amount of time=20
> was spent on building the PC/SOUNDCARD interface and testing it. I did

> not have to write a thesis about configuration problems and possible=20
> fixes to get UISS.EXE to operate with Windows O/S. (ANY WINDOW'S O/S).

> It seems to me that the programmer for UISS.EXE has whipped that=20
> problem. The only draw back is it's for APRS and I don't think it=20
> deals with the TCP/IP stack.
>=20
> "There lies the rub". How to manipulate the TCP/IP protocol in a=20
> Window's environment. A PDF document called "winsm.pdf" only begins to

> describe the configuration changes to Window's O/S needed to get=20
> FLEX-NET to operate in the Window's environment. I stumbled on to this

> document after going through all the English documentation, "Winsm.pdf

> is only released in the German language. I was able to roughly=20
> translate it and had my translation verified by a couple hardworking=20
> guys connected with the FLEX-NET project. (Thanks Guys!!!)This is=20
> probably the first document that needs to be read if your going to=20
> start configuring FLEX NET for Windows. BUT, there is no exact English

> translation. I do mean EXACT.! Because, you lose a lot of important=20
> little tidbits if it is sloppily translated.
>=20
>  I've been struggling to get FLEX-NET to operate. as an END-USER=20
> Soundcard TNC with Windows OS. I've been bouncing back and forth=20
> between the two applications FLEX NET and AGW packet with WINPACK.exe.

> But, no one has given me any concrete ways to get any of the apps up=20
> and running.
>=20
>  I can only load through Windows ME unless I formatted a FAT16=20
> partition to run MSDOS6.22 because Winme does NOT have a real DOS O/S.

> This will enable the PC to run the DOS version of FLEX-NET. It has=20
> some sort of WinME PSEUDO-DOS that only runs on FAT32 format. THE DOS=20
> SHELL is now what WinME only uses for DOS. So, I've tried to boot from

> a formatted disk by the START-UP DISK routine.
>=20
> There doesn't seem to be a way to format a disk using the command <=20
> FORMAT /s >. If you try through the DOS SHELL, a system message comes=20
> back that says 'WINME does not support the <FORMAT /s> command=20
> anymore'. Directed to the CONROL PANEL, go to "Add/Remove Programs"=20
> option to make a START-UP floppy. Stripping the files from the floppy=20
> and adding DOS commands that work with WIN-ME DOS and FLEXNET. I have=20
> a FLEX-NET boot file that boots with no problems through the SHELL.=20
> However, when booting from the floppy FLEX-NET won't accept the=20
> SOUNDCARD configuration from the SET BLASTER COMMAND given from=20
> AUTOEXEC.BAT before the FLEX-NET BAT file loads.
>=20
> I have a CREATIVE SOUND BLASTER PCI512. The card has an EMU10K1, "a=20
> new processor from E-mu Systems based on E-mu's highly acclaimed=20
> Emulator IV sound module." So says, the Hype B.S. in the installation=20
> manual. When loaded it shows the full blown SB version at=20
> IRQ-5/ADDRESS [B000]and a SB16 EMULATOR loaded at ADDRESS 220/IRQ-7 in

> the system settings. I have tried to boot using either IRQ7 or IRQ5=20
> SoundBlaster with the respective FLEX NET Modem module in the FLEX-NET

> BATCH FILE to boot. I have documented all the different=20
> reconfigurations I've tried have failed to find the proper SOUNDCARD=20
> Address for FLEX-NET.BAT .
>=20
> SOUNDBLASTER driver loads with no errors. FLEX-NET Kernel is activated

> and no errors occur. SMMIXER.EXE loads and outputs its setting OK.(I=20
> have <ECHO OFF> and <PAUSE> after each module loads . So, I can see=20
> which modules are giving me errors and see the configuration feedback=20
> to the Display(stdio).) When it gets to "THE FIRMWARE EMULATOR" Module

> TFEMU.EXE an error halts the process. THE CREATIVE SB cannot be found=20
> at the address given. I used both addresses for the soundcard with the

> same result.
>=20
>  It does get a little complicated but I kept track of my configuration

> procedures by noting them down with each step. I am determined to get=20
> one of these packages to work with my system which has no problems=20
> operating with ANY other software I use. I don't want to go out and=20
> buy another "Black Box" to clutter up my shack.
>=20
> All the FLEX-Net nodes are running under DOS. All the Terminal=20
> programs are configured to run in a DOS environment. So all the=20
> END-USER apps are for DOS OS as well. I have had to do a lot of=20
> digging to get a straight answer to that. Because when I mention=20
> Window's, It seems like the sysops start talking about OLD versions of

> Windows and with a full DOS OS. I can't seem to make them understand=20
> that the future of Micro Bill's OS does not want to support DOS=20
> anymore.
>=20
> If FLEX-NET wants to have a future it must start to support the=20
> WINDOWS END-USER. Does is great for nodes because you can use a cheap=20
> PC to support it but the END-USERS who don't want to be a Node and use

> the FLEX-NET WAN(Wide Area Net) need a windows end-user's application,

> using the soundcard, that's easy to configure and attaches to the=20
> Windows TCP/IP drivers. The Future is HERE and IT's running=20
> PSEUDO-DOS! In the next year or so; it's bye!...bye! DOS. This should=20
> make some vendors selling MS-DOS OS separately happy.
>=20
> At this moment, My options have scaled down. I believe one of the=20
> FLEXNET sysops told me I'd be wasting my time. I didn't believe him.=20
> Because, I thought if the application was using the sound card it must

> be able to use Windows. My efforts did get me the "BIG PICTURE". I=20
> find that FLEXNET has a great NETWORK but there is a lack of focus on=20
> END-USER applications for soundcards. I don't want to be a FLEXNET=20
> system administrator. I'm retired due to health. One of my "And Other=20
> Duties Assigned"-functions was to be a UNIX system admin. No, I don't=20
> want to do that at the moment. I just want to get on the FLEXNET=20
> interstate and drive! Is this possible?
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Peninsula Radio Operators Society=20
> http://www.intercom.net/npo/pros/index.html
> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/PROS
> No Fat in our HAM-LINKS!
> Webmaster: NW3N (FISTS ARLHS MARS ARRL)
>=20
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From flexnet@mailman.qth.net  Wed Oct  9 23:37:19 2002
From: flexnet@mailman.qth.net (David Barlitt)
Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2002 18:37:19 -0400
Subject: [FlexNet] RE: UNFLEXABLE-NET?
References: <001401c26fe1$7d15ca60$e66721a2@MD.USA>
Message-ID: <3DA4AF9F.5050509@qsl.net>

Hi Richard

Sorry to hear your giving up on the UNFLEXABLE, but I'll be doing list 
maintenance tonight and will remove you from the list.

David KF4AWU
List manager for:
APRS
Packet
70cm
Flexnet
EARS
MilAir

Richard Stern wrote:
> WOW! I think you missed the point of what I was saying.
> 
> There's no need to get so defensive.
> 
> Your absolutely right about The FLEXNET nodes and ,also, our German
> foreign national friends  are absolutely wonderful in what they have
> produced!
> 
> I am trying to express that there is no desent software for the END-USER
> using a soundcards that that's easy to set up. This is from an END-USER
> point of view not a SYSTEMS PROGRAMMING/ENGINEERING/ADMINISTRATION point
> of view.
> 
> I think the problem is I'm not looking to run a node right now. I just
> want a decent terminal program that will run AX.25 TCP/IP through my
> sound card to my rig.
> 
> Also,Thanks for making me understand how FLEXNET is unshackably tied to
> the DOS platform. I believe FLEXNET is not for me. 
> 
> I must apologize for putting you on the defensive. Back in the late 70s
> when I was troubleshooting problems for ARPANET communications, open and
> honest opinions where welcome.I'm a disabled AMERICAN veteran, my neck
> and back are broke. I can't just run all over the place and put a system
> together and then spend hours messing with MicroBill's OS.  
> 
> ONE LAST SHOOT, Now that my German_Irish temperment has stirred. Change
> the NAME of FLEXNET, so sternly defended, to UNFLEXABLE-NET.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> NOTE: If the SYSOP for this list is reading this email delete my address
> from this list...73
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: flexnet-admin@mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:flexnet-admin@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of John Papson
> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 4:40 PM
> To: 'flexnet@mailman.qth.net'
> Subject: RE: [FlexNet] New Flex32
> 
> 
> Richard:
> 
> Don't beat the hell out of the FlexNet folks in Darmstadt just because
> Micro$oft 
> keeps changing their Window$ operating system on a yearly basis !
> 
> The PC FlexNet DOS version is working perfectly at almost 100 node
> sites, 
> running a stable network now covering 8 states in the Northeastern USA.
> 
> Don't expect FlexNet running under Window$ to operate as a node, PERIOD
> !
> 
> Pull a junk computer off your pile, load Window$ 95, and get that
> working for your end user station for starters...
> 
> Then move up to Win-98 which is vastly different, followed by Win-2000,
> Win NT, 
> Win-Me, Win-$$$...    Do it one step at a time...
> 
> I don't have answers to your questions, as Window$ changes faster than 
> the volunteers (mostly students ?) writing FlexNet software can keep up
> !
> 
> The Europeans don't give a damn about Window$, as they have jumped 
> aboard the LINUX bandwagon with both feet !
> 
> With Wal-Mart selling a $199.99 LINUX based PC, perhaps they are correct
> ! 
> 
> 73
> 
> John WB2CIK
> 
>  
> 
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From:	Richard Stern [SMTP:rstern@intercom.net]
>>Sent:	Wednesday, October 09, 2002 3:44 PM
>>To:	flexnet@mailman.qth.net
>>Subject:	RE: [FlexNet] New Flex32
>>
>>KRASSI,
>>
>>I have been trying to get SV2AGW to work with my WinMe system. It says
> 
> 
>>it can't find the TCP/IP modules. When I use it in conjunction with 
>>WinPack V6.8. It seems to operate ok with the UISS.exe for APRS. But, 
>>it's not seeing TCP/IP...
>>
>>I built a rig/soundcard interface for PTT USING EITHER RTS or DTR from
> 
> 
>>the PC's COM port and switching between port ONE(1) and TWO(2); which 
>>also works fine with UISS.exe(freeware). I actually get the AFSK from 
>>the soundcard output after my PTT has been activated. This application
> 
> 
>>took very little time to get up and running. The large amount of time 
>>was spent on building the PC/SOUNDCARD interface and testing it. I did
> 
> 
>>not have to write a thesis about configuration problems and possible 
>>fixes to get UISS.EXE to operate with Windows O/S. (ANY WINDOW'S O/S).
> 
> 
>>It seems to me that the programmer for UISS.EXE has whipped that 
>>problem. The only draw back is it's for APRS and I don't think it 
>>deals with the TCP/IP stack.
>>
>>"There lies the rub". How to manipulate the TCP/IP protocol in a 
>>Window's environment. A PDF document called "winsm.pdf" only begins to
> 
> 
>>describe the configuration changes to Window's O/S needed to get 
>>FLEX-NET to operate in the Window's environment. I stumbled on to this
> 
> 
>>document after going through all the English documentation, "Winsm.pdf
> 
> 
>>is only released in the German language. I was able to roughly 
>>translate it and had my translation verified by a couple hardworking 
>>guys connected with the FLEX-NET project. (Thanks Guys!!!)This is 
>>probably the first document that needs to be read if your going to 
>>start configuring FLEX NET for Windows. BUT, there is no exact English
> 
> 
>>translation. I do mean EXACT.! Because, you lose a lot of important 
>>little tidbits if it is sloppily translated.
>>
>> I've been struggling to get FLEX-NET to operate. as an END-USER 
>>Soundcard TNC with Windows OS. I've been bouncing back and forth 
>>between the two applications FLEX NET and AGW packet with WINPACK.exe.
> 
> 
>>But, no one has given me any concrete ways to get any of the apps up 
>>and running.
>>
>> I can only load through Windows ME unless I formatted a FAT16 
>>partition to run MSDOS6.22 because Winme does NOT have a real DOS O/S.
> 
> 
>>This will enable the PC to run the DOS version of FLEX-NET. It has 
>>some sort of WinME PSEUDO-DOS that only runs on FAT32 format. THE DOS 
>>SHELL is now what WinME only uses for DOS. So, I've tried to boot from
> 
> 
>>a formatted disk by the START-UP DISK routine.
>>
>>There doesn't seem to be a way to format a disk using the command < 
>>FORMAT /s >. If you try through the DOS SHELL, a system message comes 
>>back that says 'WINME does not support the <FORMAT /s> command 
>>anymore'. Directed to the CONROL PANEL, go to "Add/Remove Programs" 
>>option to make a START-UP floppy. Stripping the files from the floppy 
>>and adding DOS commands that work with WIN-ME DOS and FLEXNET. I have 
>>a FLEX-NET boot file that boots with no problems through the SHELL. 
>>However, when booting from the floppy FLEX-NET won't accept the 
>>SOUNDCARD configuration from the SET BLASTER COMMAND given from 
>>AUTOEXEC.BAT before the FLEX-NET BAT file loads.
>>
>>I have a CREATIVE SOUND BLASTER PCI512. The card has an EMU10K1, "a 
>>new processor from E-mu Systems based on E-mu's highly acclaimed 
>>Emulator IV sound module." So says, the Hype B.S. in the installation 
>>manual. When loaded it shows the full blown SB version at 
>>IRQ-5/ADDRESS [B000]and a SB16 EMULATOR loaded at ADDRESS 220/IRQ-7 in
> 
> 
>>the system settings. I have tried to boot using either IRQ7 or IRQ5 
>>SoundBlaster with the respective FLEX NET Modem module in the FLEX-NET
> 
> 
>>BATCH FILE to boot. I have documented all the different 
>>reconfigurations I've tried have failed to find the proper SOUNDCARD 
>>Address for FLEX-NET.BAT .
>>
>>SOUNDBLASTER driver loads with no errors. FLEX-NET Kernel is activated
> 
> 
>>and no errors occur. SMMIXER.EXE loads and outputs its setting OK.(I 
>>have <ECHO OFF> and <PAUSE> after each module loads . So, I can see 
>>which modules are giving me errors and see the configuration feedback 
>>to the Display(stdio).) When it gets to "THE FIRMWARE EMULATOR" Module
> 
> 
>>TFEMU.EXE an error halts the process. THE CREATIVE SB cannot be found 
>>at the address given. I used both addresses for the soundcard with the
> 
> 
>>same result.
>>
>> It does get a little complicated but I kept track of my configuration
> 
> 
>>procedures by noting them down with each step. I am determined to get 
>>one of these packages to work with my system which has no problems 
>>operating with ANY other software I use. I don't want to go out and 
>>buy another "Black Box" to clutter up my shack.
>>
>>All the FLEX-Net nodes are running under DOS. All the Terminal 
>>programs are configured to run in a DOS environment. So all the 
>>END-USER apps are for DOS OS as well. I have had to do a lot of 
>>digging to get a straight answer to that. Because when I mention 
>>Window's, It seems like the sysops start talking about OLD versions of
> 
> 
>>Windows and with a full DOS OS. I can't seem to make them understand 
>>that the future of Micro Bill's OS does not want to support DOS 
>>anymore.
>>
>>If FLEX-NET wants to have a future it must start to support the 
>>WINDOWS END-USER. Does is great for nodes because you can use a cheap 
>>PC to support it but the END-USERS who don't want to be a Node and use
> 
> 
>>the FLEX-NET WAN(Wide Area Net) need a windows end-user's application,
> 
> 
>>using the soundcard, that's easy to configure and attaches to the 
>>Windows TCP/IP drivers. The Future is HERE and IT's running 
>>PSEUDO-DOS! In the next year or so; it's bye!...bye! DOS. This should 
>>make some vendors selling MS-DOS OS separately happy.
>>
>>At this moment, My options have scaled down. I believe one of the 
>>FLEXNET sysops told me I'd be wasting my time. I didn't believe him. 
>>Because, I thought if the application was using the sound card it must
> 
> 
>>be able to use Windows. My efforts did get me the "BIG PICTURE". I 
>>find that FLEXNET has a great NETWORK but there is a lack of focus on 
>>END-USER applications for soundcards. I don't want to be a FLEXNET 
>>system administrator. I'm retired due to health. One of my "And Other 
>>Duties Assigned"-functions was to be a UNIX system admin. No, I don't 
>>want to do that at the moment. I just want to get on the FLEXNET 
>>interstate and drive! Is this possible?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Peninsula Radio Operators Society 
>>http://www.intercom.net/npo/pros/index.html
>>http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/PROS
>>No Fat in our HAM-LINKS!
>>Webmaster: NW3N (FISTS ARLHS MARS ARRL)
>>
> 
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From flexnet@mailman.qth.net  Wed Oct  9 23:56:19 2002
From: flexnet@mailman.qth.net (Michael Hart)
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 08:56:19 +1000
Subject: [FlexNet] RE: UNFLEXABLE-NET?
References: <001401c26fe1$7d15ca60$e66721a2@MD.USA>
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----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Stern <rstern@intercom.net>
To: <flexnet@mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 8:16 AM
Subject: [FlexNet] RE: UNFLEXABLE-NET?


> WOW! I think you missed the point of what I was saying.
>
> There's no need to get so defensive.

[snip]

> ONE LAST SHOOT, Now that my German_Irish temperment has stirred. Change
> the NAME of FLEXNET, so sternly defended, to UNFLEXABLE-NET.

I loaded Flexnet on my machine with the same goal [i.e. end user/sound card
interface] and had the same difficulties.  I went through the same trouble
and ended up removing flexnet also - about a year ago now I think.

To expect people to get an old DOS machine for a single purpose when many of
us don't have the room for the computers we actually need for work etc is
quite funny.  I certainly cannot afford that kind of waste so am not on
packet anymore.  Anyway a DOS machine would not be able to interact with my
LAN - hardly a flexable network if I cannot connect to any other machine on
the network.  The fact that the windows sound card drivers would not work
and apparently no one intends to address the issue makes it seem like many
end users are simply to be forgotten.

At least I still use my interface for SSTV.

regards
Michael VK2JXI




From flexnet@mailman.qth.net  Thu Oct 10 07:39:51 2002
From: flexnet@mailman.qth.net (Zilvinas Atkociunas)
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 08:39:51 +0200
Subject: [FlexNet] Just 2cents
Message-ID: <3DA520B7.4050105@augma.lt>

Hi all,

I almost forgot what is flexnet when I discovered sv2agw software. I 
know that there are issues when one should run flexnet and nothing else 
(old PCs) but looking at the FlexNet mailing digests I frequently see 
complains regarding ptt etc....

Just try it - if you don't like - throw it away...

http://www.elcom.gr/sv2agw/general.htm

73 zilvis, ly2ss


