Yes Jeff Davis has a good idea there. Maybe next time the ARRL will we do a honest survey instead of stacking the deck in their favor. This one needs to get lots of comments filed on it, due to the favor its going to get from the no-codes and other voice only ops. ken w8ob #7242 -- SUPPORT RADIO-TELEGRAPH THE VOICE OF THE PROFESSIONAL RADIO OP. MEMBER FISTS, QCWA, SOWP, VWOA, QRPARC-I AND FPQRP-I