[FARC] RE: FARC Digest, Vol 38, Issue 10

Santford santford01 at excite.com
Mon Aug 13 15:50:37 EDT 2007


U might wanto check out the following frequencies for 2M packet activity: 145.030,145.050,145.730 and 145.090

73,
Santford Williams
KB3KVA

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Today's Topics:

1. Re: FM Packet (Anthony C)
2. Re: FM Packet (Kirk Talbott)
3. Re: FM Packet (Bob Moroney)
4. Re: FM Packet (Kirk Talbott)
5. Re: FM Packet (Bob Moroney)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 16:43:49 -0400
From: "Anthony C" 
Subject: Re: [FARC] FM Packet
To: "Frederick, Maryland ARC" 
Message-ID: 
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
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if you are able to TX psk & rtty with the rigblaster and the ts2000, you can 
do packet as well with the same setup. you'll be using mixw and the 
rigblaster to put packet tones into and out of the radio.

are you able to do psk & rtty TX & RX now?

Anthony N1IG
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kirk Talbott" 
To: "Frederick, Maryland ARC" 
Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 4:04 PM
Subject: Re: [FARC] FM Packet


> Joe, my hardware connections are not ready to go. My Kenwood TS-2000 has 
> an internal TNC with serial port but my laptop computer has no serial 
> ports, only USB ports. I know adapter cables are available for USB to 
> serial conversion and my Rigblaster came with one, however it won't fit 
> the Kenwood's serial port. Additionally, the Kenwood TS-2000 manual has a 
> pretty involved chapter on Packet setup/TNC operation. Whereas PSK31 and 
> RTTY with the Rigblaster interface were simple to set up and configure, 
> Packet looks like a whole other can of worms.
>
> I guess what I'm asking is, is using Packet worth the pain of setup and 
> configuration?
>
> 73
> KB3ONM
> Kirk
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Joseph M. Durnal" 
> To: "Frederick, Maryland ARC" 
> Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 10:59 AM
> Subject: Re: [FARC] FM Packet
>
>
>> Hi Kirk.
>>
>> On the air yesterday I gave you frequencies 145.05 & 145.09, I'm not
>> really sure what is on them if anything. 145.75 is considered the
>> state wide ARES packet frequency.
>>
>> Listen for Jerry AA8TF on the 147.06 repeater, he does a lot of packet
>> from Martinsburg Wv and would enjoy talking to you about all things
>> packet. Also, there is some sort of packet setup in Westminster Md,
>> but I don't know the freqency. Give a call on the 145.41 repeater,
>> they have the carroll county ARES (CARET) net on Tuesday nights at
>> 8:30, there always seems to be someone on that net that knows about
>> their packet system.
>>
>> Everything packet for me is now on APRS 144.39, you'll need some APRS
>> software for that.
>>
>> 73 de Joe NE3R
>>
>> On 8/11/07, Kirk Talbott wrote:
>> > Hello all, since I've set up and run PSK31, RTTY, CW, and SSTV I'm 
>> > ready to
>> > give VHF Packet a try. W3FDK Roland sent me an E-mail a while back
>> > regarding accessing the Frederick area packet....bulletin board? and 
>> > some
>> > VHF frequencies but I've mislaid it and the E-mail is gone. I just 
>> > talked
>> > to W3FDK today and he gave me the frequencies but I've forgotten them 
>> > since
>> > this morning...duh.
>> >
>> > I'm using MIXW software and there is no documentation on how to use 
>> > Packet.
>> > Anyone have any ideas how to get started? Hardware connections should 
>> > be
>> > ready to go, I think.
>> >
>> > 73
>> > KB3ONM
>> > Kirk
>> >
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 09:54:03 -0400
From: "Kirk Talbott" 
Subject: Re: [FARC] FM Packet
To: "Frederick, Maryland ARC" 
Message-ID: 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Yes, I can do PSK31, RTTY, CW, transmit and receive using the Kenwood 
TS-2000 and Rigblaster Plus. My connections are soundcard connections, I 
have nothing connected to the TS-2000's RS-232 data port. What's the next 
step?

73
KB3ONM
Kirk


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Anthony C" 
To: "Frederick, Maryland ARC" 
Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 4:43 PM
Subject: Re: [FARC] FM Packet


> if you are able to TX psk & rtty with the rigblaster and the ts2000, you 
> can
> do packet as well with the same setup. you'll be using mixw and the
> rigblaster to put packet tones into and out of the radio.
>
> are you able to do psk & rtty TX & RX now?
>
> Anthony N1IG
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Kirk Talbott" 
> To: "Frederick, Maryland ARC" 
> Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 4:04 PM
> Subject: Re: [FARC] FM Packet
>
>
> > Joe, my hardware connections are not ready to go. My Kenwood TS-2000 
> > has
> > an internal TNC with serial port but my laptop computer has no serial
> > ports, only USB ports. I know adapter cables are available for USB to
> > serial conversion and my Rigblaster came with one, however it won't fit
> > the Kenwood's serial port. Additionally, the Kenwood TS-2000 manual has 
> > a
> > pretty involved chapter on Packet setup/TNC operation. Whereas PSK31 
> > and
> > RTTY with the Rigblaster interface were simple to set up and configure,
> > Packet looks like a whole other can of worms.
> >
> > I guess what I'm asking is, is using Packet worth the pain of setup and
> > configuration?
> >
> > 73
> > KB3ONM
> > Kirk
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Joseph M. Durnal" 
> > To: "Frederick, Maryland ARC" 
> > Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 10:59 AM
> > Subject: Re: [FARC] FM Packet
> >
> >
> >> Hi Kirk.
> >>
> >> On the air yesterday I gave you frequencies 145.05 & 145.09, I'm not
> >> really sure what is on them if anything. 145.75 is considered the
> >> state wide ARES packet frequency.
> >>
> >> Listen for Jerry AA8TF on the 147.06 repeater, he does a lot of packet
> >> from Martinsburg Wv and would enjoy talking to you about all things
> >> packet. Also, there is some sort of packet setup in Westminster Md,
> >> but I don't know the freqency. Give a call on the 145.41 repeater,
> >> they have the carroll county ARES (CARET) net on Tuesday nights at
> >> 8:30, there always seems to be someone on that net that knows about
> >> their packet system.
> >>
> >> Everything packet for me is now on APRS 144.39, you'll need some APRS
> >> software for that.
> >>
> >> 73 de Joe NE3R
> >>
> >> On 8/11/07, Kirk Talbott wrote:
> >> > Hello all, since I've set up and run PSK31, RTTY, CW, and SSTV I'm
> >> > ready to
> >> > give VHF Packet a try. W3FDK Roland sent me an E-mail a while back
> >> > regarding accessing the Frederick area packet....bulletin board? and
> >> > some
> >> > VHF frequencies but I've mislaid it and the E-mail is gone. I just
> >> > talked
> >> > to W3FDK today and he gave me the frequencies but I've forgotten them
> >> > since
> >> > this morning...duh.
> >> >
> >> > I'm using MIXW software and there is no documentation on how to use
> >> > Packet.
> >> > Anyone have any ideas how to get started? Hardware connections 
> >> > should
> >> > be
> >> > ready to go, I think.
> >> >
> >> > 73
> >> > KB3ONM
> >> > Kirk
> >> >
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 10:29:24 -0400
From: Bob Moroney 
Subject: Re: [FARC] FM Packet
To: "Frederick, Maryland ARC" 
Message-ID: <46C06AC4.6090506 at erols.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Kirk,

Have you checked out the MIXW manual at 
http://k6ix.net/MixW/MixW%20Manual.pdf? It seems to go into some detail 
about configuring the program to do packet.

I think what Anthony N1IG is saying is simply that you don't need to do 
anything with the TS2000 data port. If you've got everything working 
for the other modes, you're ready to go, other than configuring MIXW for 
AX.25 with your call and the other setup stuff that seems to be 
described in the manual.

73, Bob K9CMR
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Kirk Talbott wrote:
> Yes, I can do PSK31, RTTY, CW, transmit and receive using the Kenwood 
> TS-2000 and Rigblaster Plus. My connections are soundcard connections, I 
> have nothing connected to the TS-2000's RS-232 data port. What's the next 
> step?
>
> 73
> KB3ONM
> Kirk
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Anthony C" 
> To: "Frederick, Maryland ARC" 
> Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 4:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [FARC] FM Packet
>
>
> 
>> if you are able to TX psk & rtty with the rigblaster and the ts2000, you 
>> can
>> do packet as well with the same setup. you'll be using mixw and the
>> rigblaster to put packet tones into and out of the radio.
>>
>> are you able to do psk & rtty TX & RX now?
>>
>> Anthony N1IG
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Kirk Talbott" 
>> To: "Frederick, Maryland ARC" 
>> Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 4:04 PM
>> Subject: Re: [FARC] FM Packet
>>
>>
>> 
>>> Joe, my hardware connections are not ready to go. My Kenwood TS-2000 
>>> has
>>> an internal TNC with serial port but my laptop computer has no serial
>>> ports, only USB ports. I know adapter cables are available for USB to
>>> serial conversion and my Rigblaster came with one, however it won't fit
>>> the Kenwood's serial port. Additionally, the Kenwood TS-2000 manual has 
>>> a
>>> pretty involved chapter on Packet setup/TNC operation. Whereas PSK31 
>>> and
>>> RTTY with the Rigblaster interface were simple to set up and configure,
>>> Packet looks like a whole other can of worms.
>>>
>>> I guess what I'm asking is, is using Packet worth the pain of setup and
>>> configuration?
>>>
>>> 73
>>> KB3ONM
>>> Kirk
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Joseph M. Durnal" 
>>> To: "Frederick, Maryland ARC" 
>>> Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 10:59 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [FARC] FM Packet
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>> Hi Kirk.
>>>>
>>>> On the air yesterday I gave you frequencies 145.05 & 145.09, I'm not
>>>> really sure what is on them if anything. 145.75 is considered the
>>>> state wide ARES packet frequency.
>>>>
>>>> Listen for Jerry AA8TF on the 147.06 repeater, he does a lot of packet
>>>> from Martinsburg Wv and would enjoy talking to you about all things
>>>> packet. Also, there is some sort of packet setup in Westminster Md,
>>>> but I don't know the freqency. Give a call on the 145.41 repeater,
>>>> they have the carroll county ARES (CARET) net on Tuesday nights at
>>>> 8:30, there always seems to be someone on that net that knows about
>>>> their packet system.
>>>>
>>>> Everything packet for me is now on APRS 144.39, you'll need some APRS
>>>> software for that.
>>>>
>>>> 73 de Joe NE3R
>>>>
>>>> On 8/11/07, Kirk Talbott wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hello all, since I've set up and run PSK31, RTTY, CW, and SSTV I'm
>>>>> ready to
>>>>> give VHF Packet a try. W3FDK Roland sent me an E-mail a while back
>>>>> regarding accessing the Frederick area packet....bulletin board? and
>>>>> some
>>>>> VHF frequencies but I've mislaid it and the E-mail is gone. I just
>>>>> talked
>>>>> to W3FDK today and he gave me the frequencies but I've forgotten them
>>>>> since
>>>>> this morning...duh.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm using MIXW software and there is no documentation on how to use
>>>>> Packet.
>>>>> Anyone have any ideas how to get started? Hardware connections 
>>>>> should
>>>>> be
>>>>> ready to go, I think.
>>>>>
>>>>> 73
>>>>> KB3ONM
>>>>> Kirk
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> FARC mailing list
>>>>> FARC at mailman.qth.net
>>>>> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/farc
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 12:27:56 -0400
From: "Kirk Talbott" 
Subject: Re: [FARC] FM Packet
To: "Frederick, Maryland ARC" 
Message-ID: 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Yep Bob, you're right. I checked out the MIXW user manual PDF for packet and 
got it minimally set up for packet use. I can connect successfully to 
W3FDK-2 and do not need any connection to the Kenwood TS-2000's RS-232 data 
port. That whole exercise of configuring and setting up the internal TNC on 
the Kenwood was wasted time and effort. Now that I'm on to W3FDK-2, now 
what? How does one use Packet?

73
KB3ONM
Kirk


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob Moroney" 
To: "Frederick, Maryland ARC" 
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 10:29 AM
Subject: Re: [FARC] FM Packet


> Kirk,
>
> Have you checked out the MIXW manual at
> http://k6ix.net/MixW/MixW%20Manual.pdf? It seems to go into some detail
> about configuring the program to do packet.
>
> I think what Anthony N1IG is saying is simply that you don't need to do
> anything with the TS2000 data port. If you've got everything working
> for the other modes, you're ready to go, other than configuring MIXW for
> AX.25 with your call and the other setup stuff that seems to be
> described in the manual.
>
> 73, Bob K9CMR
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Kirk Talbott wrote:
> > Yes, I can do PSK31, RTTY, CW, transmit and receive using the Kenwood
> > TS-2000 and Rigblaster Plus. My connections are soundcard connections, I
> > have nothing connected to the TS-2000's RS-232 data port. What's the 
> > next
> > step?
> >
> > 73
> > KB3ONM
> > Kirk
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Anthony C" 
> > To: "Frederick, Maryland ARC" 
> > Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 4:43 PM
> > Subject: Re: [FARC] FM Packet
> >
> >
> >
> >> if you are able to TX psk & rtty with the rigblaster and the ts2000, 
> >> you
> >> can
> >> do packet as well with the same setup. you'll be using mixw and the
> >> rigblaster to put packet tones into and out of the radio.
> >>
> >> are you able to do psk & rtty TX & RX now?
> >>
> >> Anthony N1IG
> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> From: "Kirk Talbott" 
> >> To: "Frederick, Maryland ARC" 
> >> Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 4:04 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [FARC] FM Packet
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> Joe, my hardware connections are not ready to go. My Kenwood TS-2000
> >>> has
> >>> an internal TNC with serial port but my laptop computer has no serial
> >>> ports, only USB ports. I know adapter cables are available for USB to
> >>> serial conversion and my Rigblaster came with one, however it won't 
> >>> fit
> >>> the Kenwood's serial port. Additionally, the Kenwood TS-2000 manual 
> >>> has
> >>> a
> >>> pretty involved chapter on Packet setup/TNC operation. Whereas PSK31
> >>> and
> >>> RTTY with the Rigblaster interface were simple to set up and 
> >>> configure,
> >>> Packet looks like a whole other can of worms.
> >>>
> >>> I guess what I'm asking is, is using Packet worth the pain of setup 
> >>> and
> >>> configuration?
> >>>
> >>> 73
> >>> KB3ONM
> >>> Kirk
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >>> From: "Joseph M. Durnal" 
> >>> To: "Frederick, Maryland ARC" 
> >>> Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 10:59 AM
> >>> Subject: Re: [FARC] FM Packet
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Hi Kirk.
> >>>>
> >>>> On the air yesterday I gave you frequencies 145.05 & 145.09, I'm not
> >>>> really sure what is on them if anything. 145.75 is considered the
> >>>> state wide ARES packet frequency.
> >>>>
> >>>> Listen for Jerry AA8TF on the 147.06 repeater, he does a lot of 
> >>>> packet
> >>>> from Martinsburg Wv and would enjoy talking to you about all things
> >>>> packet. Also, there is some sort of packet setup in Westminster Md,
> >>>> but I don't know the freqency. Give a call on the 145.41 repeater,
> >>>> they have the carroll county ARES (CARET) net on Tuesday nights at
> >>>> 8:30, there always seems to be someone on that net that knows about
> >>>> their packet system.
> >>>>
> >>>> Everything packet for me is now on APRS 144.39, you'll need some APRS
> >>>> software for that.
> >>>>
> >>>> 73 de Joe NE3R
> >>>>
> >>>> On 8/11/07, Kirk Talbott wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hello all, since I've set up and run PSK31, RTTY, CW, and SSTV I'm
> >>>>> ready to
> >>>>> give VHF Packet a try. W3FDK Roland sent me an E-mail a while back
> >>>>> regarding accessing the Frederick area packet....bulletin board? and
> >>>>> some
> >>>>> VHF frequencies but I've mislaid it and the E-mail is gone. I just
> >>>>> talked
> >>>>> to W3FDK today and he gave me the frequencies but I've forgotten 
> >>>>> them
> >>>>> since
> >>>>> this morning...duh.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'm using MIXW software and there is no documentation on how to use
> >>>>> Packet.
> >>>>> Anyone have any ideas how to get started? Hardware connections
> >>>>> should
> >>>>> be
> >>>>> ready to go, I think.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 73
> >>>>> KB3ONM
> >>>>> Kirk
> >>>>>
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 13:41:04 -0400
From: Bob Moroney 
Subject: Re: [FARC] FM Packet
To: "Frederick, Maryland ARC" 
Message-ID: <46C097B0.5000805 at erols.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Kirk,
Vanilla AX.25 VHF packet radio seems to be used a lot less these days 
than in the past. For Hams, packet used to serve the same purpose as 
dial-up BBS's back in the day, with the same basic types of activities 
(email, bbs postings, small file up/download, etc), mostly (but not 
exclusively) Ham-oriented.

Nowadays, packet seems to get a good workout mainly during DX contests 
when reports of band openings and rare station/country activities are 
passed around via packet networks. Some rig control programs can even 
read these formatted reports and tune one of the transceiver's VFOs to 
the active freq., no doubt saving many contesters from the nasty effects 
of carpal tunnel syndrome from too much manual dial twisting. 

Packet might get fired up again during emergencies and/or drills, but 
there seems to be less of that sort of activity as well in recent years, 
at least in this area. As was discussed during the last FARC meeting, 
the emphasis seems to be moving toward APRS vs. plain old packet for 
emergency uses.

I've dabbled in packet, but not recently, so I can't give you any 
current specifics on what's happening with it locally. There are some 
folks in the Club who have used packet extensively in the past and who 
can probably give you a quick run-down on current connectivity and 
activity in the area. Rolan, Anthony and Joe have already offered 
input, so perhaps one of them or someone else will jump in here or 
contact you directly with info. Alternately you can put your questions 
out at the FARC meeting next week. 

In the meantime, you can go to http://www.tapr.org/ for a lot of info on 
packet/APRS, and find even more via Google by searching on "using packet 
radio" and the like.

73, Bob K9CMR
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Kirk Talbott wrote:
> Yep Bob, you're right. I checked out the MIXW user manual PDF for packet and 
> got it minimally set up for packet use. I can connect successfully to 
> W3FDK-2 and do not need any connection to the Kenwood TS-2000's RS-232 data 
> port. That whole exercise of configuring and setting up the internal TNC on 
> the Kenwood was wasted time and effort. Now that I'm on to W3FDK-2, now 
> what? How does one use Packet?
>
> 73
> KB3ONM
> Kirk
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bob Moroney" 
> To: "Frederick, Maryland ARC" 
> Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 10:29 AM
> Subject: Re: [FARC] FM Packet
> 
>> Kirk,
>>
>> Have you checked out the MIXW manual at
>> http://k6ix.net/MixW/MixW%20Manual.pdf? It seems to go into some detail
>> about configuring the program to do packet.
>>
>> I think what Anthony N1IG is saying is simply that you don't need to do
>> anything with the TS2000 data port. If you've got everything working
>> for the other modes, you're ready to go, other than configuring MIXW for
>> AX.25 with your call and the other setup stuff that seems to be
>> described in the manual.
>>
>> 73, Bob K9CMR
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> Kirk Talbott wrote:
>> 
>>> Yes, I can do PSK31, RTTY, CW, transmit and receive using the Kenwood
>>> TS-2000 and Rigblaster Plus. My connections are soundcard connections, I
>>> have nothing connected to the TS-2000's RS-232 data port. What's the 
>>> next
>>> step?
>>>
>>> 73
>>> KB3ONM
>>> Kirk
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Anthony C" 
>>> To: "Frederick, Maryland ARC" 
>>> Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 4:43 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [FARC] FM Packet
>>>
>>> 
>>>> if you are able to TX psk & rtty with the rigblaster and the ts2000, 
>>>> you can do packet as well with the same setup. you'll be using mixw and the
>>>> rigblaster to put packet tones into and out of the radio.
>>>> are you able to do psk & rtty TX & RX now?
>>>>
>>>> Anthony N1IG


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