[FADCA] HAMS using Internet

[kd4yal at tampabay.rr.com]

Phil,

I still like to read packet bulletins there is still good information that you
sometimes can’t find anywhere else. As a user what would attract you to
using a  bulletins board again?

I guess this was Charlie point… 

**sigh**
 
When you talk about harden sites I believe this would prove to be very
difficult  from a security stand point. From what I have seen in there area
there aren’t enough Network Professional willing to put forth the time and
most don’t understand the concept.

Most bbs can send email if they are setup to do so I even had axMail setup
for Fpac to send email at one point. All flavors of xNos have native support
for SMTP and POP3.  

Actually Linksys has caught on and rather then creating a unhappy customer base
they left the WRT54GL units on the market so people could use them for there
wireless project. Any way there are other platforms out there just as cheap and
easily modified.

As far as your comment about the Amprnet I am not sure what to say but
these guys were way a head of there time. Most HAMS even as of today 
can’t seem to understand the concept that why we are using protocols like
Rose to build our networks.

I think maybe you are a little confuse to what would be consider commercial use
and the use of for a fellow HAMS. For the second time no one would be selling or
paying for a service. **END USERS** would be HAMs not the general public.

The Amprnet has evolved and matured further then any experimental HAM radio
network in existences today. FACT  

I would really like to where you found the word **PUBLIC** in anything I said.

During a time of emergency I could see helping emergency responder make there
way to the Internet since this is the medium uses for business today but **NOT**
the general public. 
 
Nice spin...


Best regards, Jerry, KD4YAL


---- "Royce wrote: 
> A quote from AMPR.
> 
> AMPRNet is not intended to be, and should not be used as, a substitute
> for buying access to the Internet from a local Internet Service
> Provider. It is, at this point in its evolution, an experimental network
> which should not be relied upon to provide consistent or dependable
> communications. As with ham radio itself, it is a hobbyist adventure.
> 
> "quote"( We are at the point now were we could be supplying end users
> with free Internet access and free email,
> 
> digital voice traffic with just the cost of their own equipment. This
> type of technology will bring back 
> 
> users but these type of network require TCPIP. The equipment needs could
> be purchased pretty cheap.")
> 
> It would be great to do, but there are lots of other ways to provide the
> public with internet, and I'm not spending my weekends working on
> projects for the general public, I'm doing it for the ham community and
> emergency services.
> 
> 
>   
>  
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fadca-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:fadca-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jerry DeLong
> Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 6:24 AM
> To: 'Florida Amateur Digital Communication Association'
> Subject: RE: [FADCA] HAMS using Internet
> 
> 
> 
> Hello, Phil
> 
> Nice comments...
> 
>  
> Firewalls are easy to build and can easily control traffic the entire
> internet is constructed this way.
> 
> Did you forget we are HAMS.
> 
> I have 2 Linksys router converted to Linux that were purchased for 70$
> each
> and could have the range 6-10 mile @ 54-10 mb depending on the site they
> were setup at. They can also be modified for two serial ports for legacy
> TNC. All they need is a weather proof case and antenna.
> 
> This has already been done by other HAMS radio networks.
> 
> One of my Linksys router is already running Xnet...
> 
> If no one is paying for a service how is this consider commercial?
> 
> Perhaps you have not heard of the Amprnet? www.ampr.org
> 
> You are correct IPIP tunneling or VPN connection is a good option for
> site
> to site work as this is the way it is done on the Amprnet.
> 
> Shame on us for forgetting our roots the answer isn't always to go buy
> the
> new Kenwood or in this case Dstar. 
> 
>  
> 
> Best regards, Jerry, KD4YAL
> 
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